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NYT/CBS poll: Romney 46, Obama 43 (Remember, Romney is not yet the GOP Nominee)
Hotair ^ | 05/14/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 05/14/2012 5:15:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The weighted sample of registered voters: 36D/30R/34I, which is right in line with most national polls.

Maybe Karl was right about that “turning point.”

The bombshell number, obviously, is Romney leading O by two among women. If that happens on election day, rest assured that the overall margin will be a lot wider than three points. So what's driving the sudden Mittmania? It's probably not the economy:

Most Americans (67 percent) believe the economy is in bad shape, but respondents expressed the most optimism on that issue since January 2008 – months before the economic crisis was in full swing. Thirty-two percent of Americans said the economy was in good shape, and 36 percent said they thought it was getting better. Twenty-four percent of Americans said they thought the economy was getting worse, and 39 percent said they thought it was staying the same.

Fifty percent of Americans said they approve of Mr. Obama's performance as president, while 48 percent disapproved.

Not a terrible poll for O and yet suddenly he’s fading among a key demographic. What explains the downturn? Probably an insta-backlash to his “evolution” on gay marriage:

While 25 percent say the president’s support for same-sex marriage makes them less likely to support his reelection, 16 percent say his position makes them more likely to support him. Fifty-eight percent say the announcement will not affect how they vote…

Asked if they had to decide if same-sex marriage should be legal, 51 percent said no, including 81 percent of Republicans, 25 percent of Democrats and 54 percent of independents. Forty-two percent said yes, including 13 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of Democrats and 43 percent of independents.

That 42/51 split on gay marriage is sharply lower than what Gallup found last week. Given Romney’s closing of the gender gap here, support for SSM must also be sharply lower among women (there are no crosstabs by gender) even though most women said they favor gay marriage in Gallup’s poll today. As for the 16/25 split on those who say O’s SSM shift will make them more/less likely to vote for him, that’s similar to the 13/26 split that Gallup found when it asked the same question last week. Among independents, Gallup had the split 11/23. NYT/CBS sees something similar there too:

This result probably isn’t helping him either:

On second thought, is that result helping him? Could be that some people who would otherwise support his shift on gay marriage have been turned off because he’s been so transparently cynical and opportunistic about it. But since he’s losing votes on this issue on balance, I’m thinking maybe the opposite is true — maybe some in his base, like black evangelicals, are inclined to let him slide for taking a position they find immoral precisely because they don’t think he’s embraced it on principle.

The money question for O is whether the gay-marriage backlash will last or whether it’s a fleeting reaction to all the headlines about it last week. If it does hold up for a few more weeks, Romney’s going to be sorely tempted to start spending some time on it on the stump even at the expense of his “economy, economy, economy” message. But maybe he doesn’t need to; such was the media attention to Obama’s “evolution” that everyone’s already heard about it, which means all he really needs to do is nudge voters on it now and then as a reminder.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2012polls; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; obama; poll; romney

1 posted on 05/14/2012 5:15:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Registered Voters”

Now poll “likely voters” and see Romney’s four point bump


2 posted on 05/14/2012 5:18:28 PM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Flightdeck

If I read it correctly,weekend poll some adults and barry is losing yikes


3 posted on 05/14/2012 5:20:24 PM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: SeekAndFind
Any poll that is not entirely comprised of "likely voters" is just noise. Also, according to this poll, eight percent of "conservatives" are voting for Obama which is laughable - unless of course they are polling a subset of loudmouths here on the Free Republic!

The real Romney margin is closer to 8-12 points which is why Obama has become obsessed with making homosexuals happy.

4 posted on 05/14/2012 5:26:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

5 posted on 05/14/2012 5:26:27 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SeekAndFind

From Mike Flynn (Breitbart)

I expect the media to be in a surly mood tonight. After months of manufactured “GOP War on Women” silliness, a new CBS/NYT poll (!) finds Romney leading Obama 46-44% among woman voters. Mind you, that isn’t GOP woman or even independent women, but ALL women voters.

More importantly, today’s poll finds a notable shift among women in just the last month. In April, Obama was leading Romney by 6% among women. No other group saw an 8 point shift in their support.

Turns out women’s top concern is the same as men’s: The Economy. All the contrived outrage about contraceptives and women’s health can’t mask the fact that 73% of voters listed either the economy or the federal deficit as their number on issue.

Looks like its going to be a long, hot summer for Team Obama.


6 posted on 05/14/2012 5:33:45 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: SeekAndFind; GeronL

Well I guess I should be happy that obozo is losing.

I suppose

I think

I surmise


7 posted on 05/14/2012 5:35:13 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: SamAdams76

I am started to believe now that Obama knew he was going to lose and didn’t want to lose on his horrible record as prez so he came out for gay marriage so he could claim he lost becuase of his “courageous” stand, and because those who voted against him are bigots. He really doesn’t have the race card anymore so he is going to pull the sexual orientation card.

Its all theatre all the time with Obama. What a pathetic “man.”


8 posted on 05/14/2012 5:35:58 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: HerrBlucher

Wow, what a stressful week.

Sounds like another golfing vacation at Martha’s Vineyard is needed!


9 posted on 05/14/2012 5:43:51 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like America is REALLY not all that ready to follow Homo-Bama down his anal-lube rainbow.

Good news. Just wish the GOP had put up some decent opposition candidate I could enjoy supporting and rallying around, who could take advantage of all this. It really tends to take the spark out of such good reports, when I also pretty much loathe its beneficiary.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by greene66
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m going to go out on a limb here and state that for awhile I’ve had a nagging feeling about this gay marriage thing. It seems to me that there are about 5-10 times more gay men than gay women. This agenda seems to be more of a male generated demand for equality of marriage between two persons of the same gender.

I know there are women who are lesbians, but not nearly as many as the men. For some time now I have had a feeling that this agenda is inherently misogynistic. Why are these men so insistent in demanding that they have a “right” to marriage? Why is not a civil union sufficient? Forever, and as long as civilization has been around, a man married a woman, and there arose the idea of the bride and groom. Society has developed all sorts of traditions related to this very important institution which is based on natural law - that when men and women get together, children are the consequence. This is the reason for the ceremony uniting one man and one woman.

You can go into the deepest depths of the Amazon rain forest and find indiginous tribes of Indians who have ceremonial rites for declaring a man and a woman to be committed to one another. The woman leaves her parents’ home and moves into her husband’s hut. Similar situations occur in the jungle forests of Indonesia. This is why it is a natural law. It’s not difficult to understand. It is not necessarily a Judeo/Christian concept either, but simply common sense.

This subject is so idiotic that I have a hard time taking it seriously - unfortunately other folos are ramming it down our throats.


11 posted on 05/14/2012 5:47:35 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: SeekAndFind

Like every poll, I would like to know the D/R/I breakdown of these numbers.

But I am pleased to see the pro-sodomy crowd to be MUCH smaller than what Gallup purported last week.

I do pray Obama’s celebration of sodomy is his electoral undoing.


12 posted on 05/14/2012 5:50:38 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gumdrop
Gumdrop, you make too much sense for the liberal left to deal with. Their world view is a backwards amalgamation of nonsense with a goal of destroying a moral based Nation.
13 posted on 05/14/2012 6:12:30 PM PDT by Machfour
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To: SeekAndFind
Some BS from CBS. I simply cannot believe that Romney is only leading Obama by 2 points among MEN now where in April he was leading him by 6 points. I am certain that Romney is leading Obama by 10 to 12 points among MEN and that is a conservative estimate.
14 posted on 05/14/2012 6:14:38 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Morgana
Well I guess I should be happy that obozo is losing.

I know I should be happy that Obozo is losing.

15 posted on 05/14/2012 6:15:55 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoFloFreeper

RE: Like every poll, I would like to know the D/R/I breakdown of these numbers.

It says very clearly in the first sentence: 36D/30R/34I,


16 posted on 05/14/2012 6:18:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Click

17 posted on 05/14/2012 6:45:28 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: SeekAndFind
It says very clearly in the first sentence: 36D/30R/34I,

Those figures are crap. It should be a 2 point advantage for the GOP (as Ras has it), or at least even... Do that, and Romney is up another 4 or 5 points

18 posted on 05/14/2012 7:02:52 PM PDT by NE Cons (Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: All

This is what I hope happens in the fall.

Obama losts 49 states and by 8 points. The black vote is split 65% Dem and 35% Rep.

The hispanic vote is 60% Rep and 40% dem.

The homosexual agenda will be set back 20 years and the next democratic presidential candidate will never even mention the words “gay marriage”.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 7:16:16 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan
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To: SeekAndFind

Now Obama’s losing the “registered voter” polls, which historically have overstated Democrats actual strength by 2-6 points!


20 posted on 05/14/2012 8:46:51 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: SeekAndFind
So what's driving the sudden Mittmania?

Simple answer: He ain't ObaMao.

21 posted on 05/14/2012 9:47:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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ZZZZZzzzzzz. Romney is such a phony. What a pathetic campaign season.


22 posted on 05/14/2012 9:47:54 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: SamAdams76

I’m sure the idiots here are among those voting for the Disaster.


23 posted on 05/14/2012 11:19:20 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Flightdeck

The problem I have is that we have to pay this jerk for the rest of his life while he is in retirement! Plus he gets Secret service for 6 to 10 years on our dime. This has to stop!


24 posted on 05/15/2012 12:08:31 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

If you think Jimmy Carter is a bad ex-President, Obama is going to be a hundred times worse. The guy is never going to shut up once out of office.


25 posted on 05/15/2012 12:22:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks...I overlooked it.

Wow. So a 6 point advantage for Ds and a 4 point advantage for Is and OBAMA STILL IS LOSING?!

The commie is crying tonight. :)


26 posted on 05/15/2012 2:34:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

Sweet, so we still have time to replace Romney with a real conservative who will actually be credible on fiscal and social issues!

/I wish


27 posted on 05/15/2012 5:40:00 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone familiar with the 2000 election mess should realize any poll that doesn’t include taking its numbers all the way through the Electoral College outcome isn’t worth jack sh*t.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:42 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: newgeezer

Independents 36% O to 43% R

7 point gap among voting block that swings the election.


29 posted on 05/15/2012 7:29:32 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Col Frank Slade

That’s nice but, I don’t see how it relates to my statement.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 7:38:16 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Gumdrop
"This agenda seems to be more of a male generated demand for equality of marriage between two persons of the same gender."

And yet in the States where it's legal, they don't even use it!

So why the agenda? Look to Canada: it's merely the Marxist stepping stone to the real goal -- passing laws against Christianity.

31 posted on 05/15/2012 7:44:01 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: dfwgator
If you think Jimmy Carter is a bad ex-President, Obama is going to be a hundred times worse. The guy is never going to shut up once out of office.

I understand it will be like fingernails on a chalkboard that will make our ears bleed BUT

I look at it as "the gift that will keep on giving" and it will be a constant reminder to people how much of a failure he and his policies were. If I were the Rats, I would tell him to keep his pie-hole shut.
32 posted on 05/15/2012 9:12:39 AM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: dfwgator

I think we should stop paying all the ex-presidents!!!


33 posted on 05/15/2012 10:35:09 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe
Well we could put them to work


34 posted on 05/15/2012 10:54:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
And Obama will cry voter fraud even if it were at those numbers!
35 posted on 05/15/2012 4:34:16 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: HerrBlucher

Sounds likely. Barry is always looking for a excuse or someone to blame.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 5:02:37 PM PDT by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is not yet the nominee.....

Dear God that is the best news of the day. Can we please get rid of this turd so I can vote for President this round.....PLEASE?????


37 posted on 05/15/2012 7:52:46 PM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: arrogantsob

I’m sure the idiots here are among those voting for the Disaster.

I am afraid you are right. Some here will be voting for Romney.....Sadly they will bypass a good conservative in Virgil Goode. Funny how you knew that some idiots would vote for Romney the disaster.


38 posted on 05/15/2012 7:56:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: dfwgator

If you put them to work make sure it is overseas!


39 posted on 05/15/2012 8:03:14 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: napscoordinator

Virgil Goode. Hilarious stuff.

What a leader, what a man, what a joke. At least you clowns could come up with someone more than fifty people have even heard of.

Just vote for yourself it will be more productive.


40 posted on 05/15/2012 10:16:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob

Romney is the default nominee for Republican conservative voters.

The General Election for FReepers will be akin to watching a High School battle for class president between the rich, preppy nerd and the gangsta rapper..... don’t want either one to win because neither one shares our principles or purpose. We kept waiting for an ROTC candidate - or even the football jock - but neither one was interested!!!!

Maybe next year!!!


41 posted on 05/16/2012 8:33:26 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newt was willing and able - but the media had more influence.)
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To: sodpoodle

Good summary of the situation although the gangsta rapper should be gangsta. Conservatives were shown to be pretty much powerless against Romney and really can’t bitch about what has happened.

My first candidate refused to run then my second blew up on the launch pad much to my surprise and consternation.

And I refuse to allow this Disaster to stay in office by me stalking off in a snit.


42 posted on 05/16/2012 7:28:47 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: SeekAndFind
16 percent say his position makes them more likely to support him.

This stat is practically noise. I'm betting that there isn't one person that favors gay marriage and it is anywhere in sight on there likelihood scale that would have voted for Romney anyway. This is just Obama votes shouting an "atta boy"

43 posted on 05/19/2012 12:18:29 AM PDT by scannell
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