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Miss. officials urge drivers to use caution pulling over for flashing lights (2 murders)
WMCTV ^ | 5/14/12 | staff

Posted on 05/14/2012 8:00:29 PM PDT by Sybeck1

MEMPHIS, TN -

(WMC-TV) – The Mississippi Highway Patrol is warning drivers to be cautious while being pulled over as they investigate two deadly highway shootings.

The Mississippi Highway Patrol's Bureau of Investigation said there are similarities between both incidents.

"The concern is that someone is posing as a law enforcement officer and that is how these vehicles end up on the side of the road," said MBI Director Lt. Col. Larry Waggoner in a written statement.

Both deadly shootings happened on Mississippi highways.

"I know there are a lot of rumors. We don't know anything right now that is concrete. Due to some of the evidence at the scene, lead us to believe both subjects that were killed were on the side of the road. You can speculate about different things. We are not eliminating anything as a possibility on how they got on the side of the road," said John Champion, district attorney.

On May 8, Thomas Schlender, 74, of Raymond, Nebraska, was found dead in his car on Interstate 55 in Panola County. On May 11, Lori Anne Carswell, 48, of Hernando, was found dead in her car on Mississippi Highway 713 in Tunica County. Both shootings happened in the early morning hours.

The victims did not know each other and the shootings happened 55 miles apart.

The Tate County Sheriff's Office posted a warning for drivers on their Facebook page:

"If someone attempts to pull you over with flashing lights and you feel unsure of stopping, DON'T PULL OVER. Use your cell phone and dial 911 and if it's a real officer then the dispatcher will confirm it for you and if it's not a real officer they will send help to you."

They also said their deputies have been told not to overreact if someone does not immediately pull over.

DeSoto County also issued the same warning and is ceasing the use of all the county's unmarked patrol cars.

A reward is being offered for information leading to an arrest in the case. Anyone with information can contact 1-888-8CRIMES.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: interstate55; ms

1 posted on 05/14/2012 8:00:41 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: WKB; wardaddy; Pathdoc; olemisspatriot; dixiebelle; Downsouth55; Islander7; Michael Knight; ...

Be careful in the Magnolia State ping


2 posted on 05/14/2012 8:03:15 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (If Romney needs my vote to win Mississippi, he is in a heck of a lot trouble more than me.)
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To: Sybeck1
They also said their deputies have been told not to overreact if someone does not immediately pull over.

I hope this little bit of instruction is repeated daily to Mississippi's Finest.

It would be a shame for an innocent to end up with a nasty case of Self Inflicted blunt force trauma because they didn't pull over quickly enough.
3 posted on 05/14/2012 8:13:51 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Unmarked cars across the country should stop being used because of things like this, though absolutely for routine BS.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 8:21:01 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Sybeck1
The use of unmarked cars for traffic patrol or to innate a traffic stop has always been a bad policy. All patrol cars involved in traffic patrol nation wide should be plainly marked with POLICE and agency on the door with a high profile light bar. TVA security for years in Tennessee had SUV’s with no agency markings.
5 posted on 05/14/2012 8:21:07 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Sybeck1
The Tate County Sheriff's Office posted a warning for drivers on their Facebook page:

So we have gotten to where a Facebook page notice serves as a public warning?

You're kidding, right?

6 posted on 05/14/2012 8:24:14 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: Sybeck1
DeSoto County also issued the same warning and is ceasing the use of all the county's unmarked patrol cars.

Smart move. Frankly, I wouldn't pull over for an unmarked car anywhere in that environs.

Supposed there is no cell coverage? How are you going to call 911 and verify the unmarked car is really a cop?

7 posted on 05/14/2012 8:24:27 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Sybeck1
DeSoto County also issued the same warning and is ceasing the use of all the county's unmarked patrol cars.

All it took was the killing of two citizens to pull those unmarked cars off the road. Was it worth it? Jack Benny: "I'm thinking . . . I'm thinking".

8 posted on 05/14/2012 8:36:36 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Sybeck1
DeSoto County also issued the same warning and is ceasing the use of all the county's unmarked patrol cars.

I've got to thinking, why are unmarked patrol cars even needed now in this age of paramilitary police, Homeland Security and in-your-face TSA?

Seems like the unmarked car just functions as an insult to injury anymore.

9 posted on 05/14/2012 8:39:57 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

No way I would stop for even a cop car on a deserted highway. I would drive slowly to the nearest police station or a place where there are people around. The cop would just have to follow me. If they can spend hours chasing car thieves all over creation, they can follow me to a safe location.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 8:48:01 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: cva66snipe

City of Houston will only perform traffic stops using clearly marked vehicles with light bars on the roof. In 1997 I was driving to Fluor in Sugar Land TX when a car was following me running wig wags (alternating headlights). It was dark at the time (early morning), but the timing of the headlights did not look right - like the driver was playing with the switches. add to that the silouette of the car looked like a subcompact of sorts. So I called it in, and did not pull over. Afterwards the car passed me on the right with the driver sort of hunkered down. HPD informed me that I did the right thing to keep going, since there was no call in about my car, and there was no such car in the fleet. Plus there policy of marked vehicles only for traffic patrol. This was also when some gangs were using props to make them look like LEO’s (FBI and DEA jackets) and doing agressive 3am home invasions.
To everyone here
If there is such monkey business going on, and you think you may have to pull over, do so at a place that is lit and there are people around. The officer may not like it, but will understand if there are these jokers around.
Any officers who run into these kinds of jokers, please give them some “special handling”. Be creative.


11 posted on 05/14/2012 8:49:31 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Sybeck1
"The concern is that someone is posing as a law enforcement officer"

More likely a law enforcement officer abusing his authority.


12 posted on 05/14/2012 8:59:13 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Red white and blue symbolizes freedom, except when they are flashing lights behind you.


13 posted on 05/14/2012 9:09:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: cayuga; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
"The Tate County Sheriff's Office posted a warning for drivers on their Facebook page:"

So we have gotten to where a Facebook page notice serves as a public warning? You're kidding, right?

Doctor: [laughs] Right, kick a**. Well, don't want to sound like a d*** or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're f***ed up. Ah, you talk like a f**, and your s***'s all retarded. What I'd do, is just like... like... you know, like, you know what I mean, like...
< /Idiocracy >
14 posted on 05/14/2012 9:17:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: Sybeck1

It’s not safe within a hundred mile radius of Memphis.


15 posted on 05/14/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Sybeck1

“If someone attempts to pull you over with flashing lights and you feel unsure of stopping, DON’T PULL OVER. Use your cell phone and dial 911 and if it’s a real officer then the dispatcher will confirm it for you and if it’s not a real officer they will send help to you.”


However, be aware that if it is a real police officer and you don’t pull over, they will murder you and especially your dog, if you fail to pull over.

That is all. Have a nice day. :)


16 posted on 05/14/2012 9:18:03 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Sybeck1
"If someone attempts to pull you over with flashing lights and you feel unsure of stopping, DON'T PULL OVER. Use your cell phone and dial 911 and if it's a real officer then the dispatcher will confirm it for you and if it's not a real officer they will send help to you."

I told our daughter this along time ago. She's not required to stop, just because she sees flashing lights behind her.

17 posted on 05/14/2012 9:25:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Supposed there is no cell coverage? How are you going to call 911 and verify the unmarked car is really a cop?

Don't worry about calling, just turn on your hazard lights, so if it's a real cop, he knows you know he's there, keep driving, and head for the nearest occupied gas station, or some other location where there are plenty of people.

18 posted on 05/14/2012 9:45:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: vetvetdoug

I guess you have heard about this.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 9:55:30 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: cva66snipe

This is going to be really bad for the business of unmarked cars setting up speed traps to collect revenue.


20 posted on 05/14/2012 9:55:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sybeck1
"If someone attempts to pull you over with flashing lights and you feel unsure of stopping, DON'T PULL OVER.

The badge-lickers will tell you failure to submit instantly is signing your death warrant. Hope Mississippi nails this fast before people are shot.

21 posted on 05/14/2012 10:17:53 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: cva66snipe; All
The use of unmarked cars for traffic patrol or to innate a traffic stop has always been a bad policy. All patrol cars involved in traffic patrol nation wide should be plainly marked with POLICE and agency on the door with a high profile light bar.

Amen. The policy endangers the public.

Since there are real world cases of legitimate police harming or killing, as happened in San Diego back in 1986, it makes even less sense to stop for an unmarked vehicle.

I was surprised to see one in TN some weeks ago; I hadn't noticed them in CA. I realize TN law still requires you to stop for unmarked vehicles but allows you the right to keep moving to the next public area. That still strikes me as a poor policy. Mark the traffic enforcement vehicles and be done with it.

22 posted on 05/14/2012 10:18:21 PM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: SuziQ; Sybeck1

“I told our daughter this along time ago. She’s not required to stop, just because she sees flashing lights behind her.”

Thank you for a sane reply.

And, it’s good to see both of you. ;o)


23 posted on 05/14/2012 11:56:52 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: I see my hands

Your reply isn’t so sane.

Are you a libertarian?


24 posted on 05/14/2012 11:58:41 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
"Your reply isn’t so sane."

That's phrasing it in the least
offensive manner, TY :)


25 posted on 05/15/2012 12:10:41 AM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Terry Mross

That’s just not true!


26 posted on 05/15/2012 12:15:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: I see my hands

LOL! You always crack me up.

TY ;o)


27 posted on 05/15/2012 12:16:22 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Sybeck1

A few years back, we worried about the “Lights Out” killers. Gang members would drive with their lights out at night and when another driver flashed his lights to try to let them know they were running dark, that driver became the victim.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 3:24:29 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Terry Mross

We live in North Mississippi & that IS a true statement!


29 posted on 05/15/2012 3:34:18 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sybeck1

Here in Arizona unmarked pull people over. I for one will not. This how Ken Bianchi of hill side strangler fame was able to get some of his victims.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 4:04:12 AM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Sybeck1

Be careful going into Millington, speed trap deluxe, especially now with the money crunch and the putting in of a new exist ramp. Blue lights all over the place.

NEVER JUST PULL OVER, PULL OVER INTO A BUSY AREA, SIGNAL OFFICE YOU ARE COMPLYING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE CCW.

They love to go after the young men. Lots of them have drugs on them.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 4:28:59 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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To: Terry Mross

You have that right. I live on the fringes of Memphis, between Raleigh and Frayser, out near the new Niki plant. Neighbor hood is being impacted by OUT SIDE forces with home robberies in the drive ways, smash and grabs from cars. They are youths with an older mentor, do it, and on foot or regular bikes. LOL, to stupid to even drop the loot.

Neighborhood is quiet except for this going on, we installed an up graded home alarm, and make sure the 12 gauge is where we can get it, as we are older, and move slower, it was the wisest choice of weapon....dead bolts on bdrm doors and attic, plus easy access to roof windows if need be.

Neither of us is afraid to use the weapon. Hubby is Ret. Senior Chief, I CCW a Tauraus Ultra Lite revolver. 12 gauge is street legal, with the shortest barrel and a pistol grip. And at my being only 5 ft I only have to draw it to center mass and aim my body. Even with out my glasses I am not likely to miss. And my CCW instructor an former LEO said to empty the chamber. I do as instructed per with my weapons. Including locking them up in the gun safe when the small grands and great grands are around.

Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON’T keep faith with you.


32 posted on 05/15/2012 4:44:57 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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To: Terry Mross

You have that right. I live on the fringes of Memphis, between Raleigh and Frayser, out near the new Niki plant. Neighbor hood is being impacted by OUT SIDE forces with home robberies in the drive ways, smash and grabs from cars. They are youths with an older mentor, do it, and on foot or regular bikes. LOL, to stupid to even drop the loot.

Neighborhood is quiet except for this going on, we installed an up graded home alarm, and make sure the 12 gauge is where we can get it, as we are older, and move slower, it was the wisest choice of weapon....dead bolts on bdrm doors and attic, plus easy access to roof windows if need be.

Neither of us is afraid to use the weapon. Hubby is Ret. Senior Chief, I CCW a Tauraus Ultra Lite revolver. 12 gauge is street legal, with the shortest barrel and a pistol grip. And at my being only 5 ft I only have to draw it to center mass and aim my body. Even with out my glasses I am not likely to miss. And my CCW instructor an former LEO said to empty the chamber. I do as instructed per with my weapons. Including locking them up in the gun safe when the small grands and great grands are around.

Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON’T keep faith with you.


33 posted on 05/15/2012 4:45:18 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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To: leaning conservative

According to the 2006–2008 American Community Survey, the racial composition of Memphis was:[20]

Black or African American: 62.6%
White: 31.7% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 29.5%)


34 posted on 05/15/2012 5:06:56 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

“Black or African American: 62.6%
White: 31.7% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 29.5%)”
Thats 123.8

That’s 123.8%


35 posted on 05/15/2012 7:59:05 AM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Sybeck1

Please add me to this ping list.
Thanks, duffee


36 posted on 05/15/2012 8:03:25 AM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Sybeck1

Call 911 whenever you get pulled over, especially at night?


37 posted on 05/15/2012 10:50:34 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: samtheman
Call 911 whenever you get pulled over, especially at night?

And then get ticketed for driving while talking on your cellular phone.

38 posted on 05/15/2012 10:57:36 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: GailA

I grew up in the sixties in eastern Arkansas. I had an aunt and uncle who lived in Raleigh. At the time we thought they were rich because of the nice neighborhood. How long before “it” gets to Bartlett? When is the fence going to be built around Germantown?


39 posted on 05/15/2012 10:58:46 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Terry Mross

It will go to Memphis if at all, Bartlett could be next, Cordova is safe because they have to build a bridge out there for now, and Memphis can’t afford to.

Lots of nice homes in Scenic Hills, professional people, every one keeps their yards up. But you can’t sell them worth spit. We have 3,800 sq ft and couldn’t get $125 out of it. 4 Bdrooms, 3 baths, 2 dens, galley kitchen, formal living room, dinning room, plus a wash/dryer room and a large attic, 2 of the bdrooms are considered Master’s as it had a second floor built on. But it is 45 years old, paid for and of course lead paint no one ones to deal with. Then you have a front hill and a back hill, no usable yard space, except the drive way. Car port has been turned into a closed garage for 2 cars. Plus it has a hot tub room.


40 posted on 05/15/2012 9:32:44 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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