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Hybrid Owners Not Likely To Be Repeat Buyers
carbusinesstoday.com ^ | April 19, 2012 | ADMIN

Posted on 05/14/2012 10:46:30 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult

Most Hybrid Owners Choosing Not to Rebuy Hybrids - Many consumers are looking to fuel-efficient cars in order to find relief from today’s high gasoline prices. And automakers have been paying attention – there are now more fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles available than ever before. But when people who currently own a hybrid vehicle buy another car, they’re not buying another hybrid.

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Was wondering when we'd get some numbers on this, now we have them.
1 posted on 05/14/2012 10:46:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I only know two out of maybe eight or nine hybrid owners who are really happy with their vehicles. Both own a hybrid as a second vehicle for driving around Dallas only. If that’s the only driving you do, one would be hard to beat, but that is a very tiny market.


2 posted on 05/14/2012 10:57:03 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

A bit of a surprise, actually.

I mean, if someone is dumb enough to buy a hybrid in the first place, you’d think they’d lack the sense not to return to their own vomit again.


3 posted on 05/14/2012 11:00:45 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Wait till they go to trade them in.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 11:05:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

5 posted on 05/14/2012 11:14:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

My wife and I purchased a 2005 Prius and loved every minute of driving that vehicle. When I retired, we purchased a 2010 Prius and we love it, too. We sold the older Prius to my daughter and her husband and they are proud and happy Prius owners also. The Prius is a joy to drive, a lot of torque, snappy and maneuverable.
Guess we are just the anomalies out there...


6 posted on 05/14/2012 11:22:24 PM PDT by langleyaction
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To: arrogantsob

That will be a million dollar question new to most sellers that will have them squirm, “ are these the original batteries?”


7 posted on 05/14/2012 11:23:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
My 2008 Mercury Mariner Hybrid 4x4 has been a decent vehicle, but I won't buy another. The 2003 Escape 4x4 it replaced had a 3.0 liter V6 engine with great acceleration and towing capacity. The acceleration of the hybrid is anemic and limited to 1,000 lbs towing. Fuel economy ranges from 21 MPG in Winter to 29 MPG Spring/Fall with about 26 MPG in Summer. Never even close to the touted 32 MPG. Not only did it fail on promised fuel economy, but the $3,000 tax rebate promised when I signed the contract turned into $1202 when I filed my taxes. The failure on fuel economy and rebate means I'll never break even on the cost difference above the basic gasoline engine model. Never again.

I would buy another gasoline only Escape 4x4. The heated seats and navigation system and leather seats are accessories I would buy again. The "moon roof" is a non-starter. I never use it. When it is opened, it is a bitch to get it properly closed so it doesn't whistle or leak. It's just not worth the aggravation.

8 posted on 05/14/2012 11:33:02 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Maybe because they’ve become permanent fags after driving them.


9 posted on 05/14/2012 11:39:33 PM PDT by max americana
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To: langleyaction

Maybe Prius is the only good hybrid? I have some friends who have the exact same story as yours, even with the daughter getting the old one. They love it and I drove the old one quite a bit on windy country roads when I visited and I was quite impressed.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 11:59:09 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: langleyaction

I have a 2006 Prius, never had a better car or better mileage. It has never been to the dealer for maintenance. It’s averaging 53 MPG. During a trip from Colorado Springs to Aspen, & driving around, for 264 miles. The fill-up was 4 gallons, that is 66 MPG. You can definitely put me down for a repeat Prius buyer. And the Truck is a Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel for off-road pleasure.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 12:22:41 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

In my family we call them Pious Drivers. I loved my Volvo, but I hated the “you must be a liberal” assumptions that came with it. I know I would never pay that much money for something with wheels and an engine... but I do not live in a city. I knew the MPG was not accurate because they were rarely accurate in any vehicle. I want that 6 cyl BMW diesel they will not sell here. Killer mileage.. it beat the pious. Not to mention it was a great you tube video of the guy in the pious sweating because he refused to turn on the AC while the beamer driver drove in comfort and style.


12 posted on 05/15/2012 2:18:30 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

We bought our 2005 Prius just as a home to work commuter (the majority of our miles driven) and we love it. At constant 48 mpg in town it saves ue over $150 per month just in gas. We bought it with 75000 miles on it, now has 93000 (trouble free miles) and it looks like they are selling for the same price I paid for it 2 yrs ago. Nothing wrong with those numbers.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 2:26:43 AM PDT by tightwadbob (There is no right way to do the wrong thing. Hardcore Angry Conservative for Pres in '12)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

We bought our 2005 Prius just as a home to work commuter (the majority of our miles driven) and we love it. At constant 48 mpg in town it saves ue over $150 per month just in gas. We bought it with 75000 miles on it, now has 93000 (trouble free miles) and it looks like they are selling for the same price I paid for it 2 yrs ago. Nothing wrong with those numbers.


14 posted on 05/15/2012 2:26:56 AM PDT by tightwadbob (There is no right way to do the wrong thing. Hardcore Angry Conservative for Pres in '12)
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To: Myrddin

Heated seats move from being a luxury to a necessity after you’ve had them for a while.

On the sunroof, have you tried treating the gaskets with a quality rubber treatment like 303 Aerospace Protectant? Or is the problem just bad geometry?


15 posted on 05/15/2012 3:04:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: momincombatboots

The Euro mfrs have some awesome diesel powerplants that we rarely get due to the regulatory costs of getting EPA and NHTSA approval. A different engine in a previously approved car makes it a completely different car from a regulatory perspective, which kills engine innovation.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 3:08:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Melas

I think the real problem with them is the ever-present problem of replacing whatever battery pack it has. In some cases, the costs could reach up into the thousands, equivalent to a major engine repair or similar.

Frankly, I don’t think estimates for battery life by manufacturers are believable, often idealized and overstated.


17 posted on 05/15/2012 3:28:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: FreedomPoster

Sounds like GE and GM do not want competition. Markets manipulated by pure politics are not free markets. If we want the Beamer, or any other car we like, we should be able to get it. If I was still military I would buy a pair and have one “imported”. Ah.. how I miss the good ol days.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 3:44:31 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: momincombatboots

You can’t even do that any more. The gray market car is a thing of the past.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 4:10:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: momincombatboots

On the engine thing, go to audi.com (USA site), get into the configurator, and look at the engine and transmission choices for, say, an A4. Then go to Audi.de or Audi.co.uk and do the same thing. If you’re into cars, you’ll be amazed at all the cool stuff you can get there.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 4:14:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Myrddin
When it is opened, it is a bitch to get it properly closed so it doesn't whistle or leak.

My wife's '05 Trail Blazer is like that, bought new, it has always been that way. You have to release that button at exactly the right instance or start all over again and do it until you get it at the perfect instance.

21 posted on 05/15/2012 4:40:26 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I am not surprised.


22 posted on 05/15/2012 4:43:29 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: langleyaction

Our Prius is pushing 250,000 miles. Best car we ever owned in terms of mileage, maintenance costs, and overall performance. I regularly use it to carry heavy loads. When the battery finally gives up, we’ll get another Prius.


23 posted on 05/15/2012 4:49:40 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Gaffer

Toyota claims to have never had a “dead” battery. The only replacements have been due o accidents.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 4:50:34 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks for the tip... I will have to find an Audi diesel that: rides like a Cadillac and can accommodate my 6’5” hub. That last one is always the challenge.


25 posted on 05/15/2012 5:08:43 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Gaffer

We have a 2005 and a 2008 Prius. 2005 has 160K miles, the 2008 115K miles. The batteries are going strong, still fully charge (per the screen that shows this, which may or may not be totally accurate). We get between 45 and 50 MPG overall.

I don’t think any Prius batteries have had to be replaced except for accidents. Could be wrong on that.

Good cars. Never had any problems, except for the assumption that we are libs, which we can cure.


26 posted on 05/15/2012 5:12:33 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

My ex-wife has had a Prius for about 3 years and swears by it. It’s actually a business car and her company is trying to take it from her and give her something else. She’s trying to buy it from them. I can’t say I’ve heard a lot of good stories about hybrids other than the Prius.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 5:19:53 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: momincombatboots

Q7 3.0 TDI

They’re pricey, though.

Supposedly we’ll soon see diesels here in the A6 and A8. He might fit, especially in the A8.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 5:45:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Why would you buy a hybrid?

If you want MPGs, a regular Civic will get 39 mpg.

Hybrids don't get any better MPGs than that, in the real world.

29 posted on 05/15/2012 6:17:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: NCLaw441

I’d consider a several thousand dollar battery replacement cost during the useful lifetime of the car 7-10 years to be a deal killer for me. It would be the equivalent of an engine changeout cost.

I’m not saying hybrid owners are liberal, I just wouldn’t trust one (a hybrid)for the type of driving and distances I have to do. As for a totally all-electric car like the Volt, I wouldn’t even consider one for an instant.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 6:49:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: FreedomPoster

Heated seats at -10F are very good. The moon roof can over and under shoot the properly seated and sealed position. Hard to get right when sitting still. Nearly impossible in motion.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 8:59:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My 2006 Civic gets 36 MPG highway, 32 city and I'm a leadfoot.
32 posted on 05/15/2012 9:24:11 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Myrddin

Most of us don’t need a moon roof anymore as we outgrew doing that.


33 posted on 05/15/2012 9:26:20 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Myrddin

Oh man, that stinks! It’s not like limit switches are advanced technology or anything.

Is this a known issue on a lot of cars? Dig around in forums and tuner sites, someone out there may have a fix kit. You’d be amazed what people come up with.


34 posted on 05/15/2012 9:44:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Gaffer

I asked about the battery issue before I bought the first Prius. I have had no repair work done on either car, including no brake work with one car over 160K miles and the other over 115K miles. I suspect that batteries from wrecked Priuses are available now. In any event, the batteries are strong in both of the ones we have, well beyong the 100K mile warranty. I also suspect that the batteries don’t go all bad suddenly, but begin to lose their recharging power over time— like a cell phone. I may be corrected on that. But at 45-50MPG each, and at a purchase price of around $25K, it seems to be an all-around good deal to me.


35 posted on 05/15/2012 10:42:05 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yep. Wait for the federal bailout for these brave, wise American SUCKERS.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 6:37:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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