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FBI may charge George Zimmerman with hate crime
WFTV.com ^ | May 14, 2012

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:10:03 AM PDT by mtrott

WFTV has learned charges against George Zimmerman could be getting more serious.

State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; georgezimmerman; hatecrime; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
From the article:

“What the government would have to prove is that Mr. Zimmerman acted out of hatred toward African-Americans. That's why he came into contact with him. That's why he shot and killed him," Sheaffer said.

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That might be a tall order, because they would have to explain how, despite Zimmerman's volunteering to mentor underprivileged, i.e., black kids, he harbored all this hatred toward blacks. If the feds go through with this, it will be a huge and egregious waste of taxpayer money.

1 posted on 05/15/2012 6:10:08 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: mtrott

wasn’t there ant article a couple weeks back stating that Zimmerman’s Grandfather or great Grandfather was black on his mother’s side


2 posted on 05/15/2012 6:13:26 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: mtrott

Nothing matter’s as long as obama is re-elected.
the left is willing to throw anyone under the bus for that.


3 posted on 05/15/2012 6:14:08 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: mtrott

So why don’t they do something useful like investigating the Dept of Justice and ATF running guns?

I’m losing all respect for these people. How many race hate crimes have we seen in the past few weeks and they’ve done nothing! FBI is nothing more than the political police.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 6:16:45 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: mtrott

Well this will go on until Obama is DEFEATED and HE WILL BE. He seal his election last week. ONE AND DONE.


5 posted on 05/15/2012 6:16:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: mtrott
This exact story was widely discussed and - I believe - debunked yesterday:

Currently 116 comments.

Currently 132 comments.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 6:17:14 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: mtrott

The hate crime charge threat is purely political. They have zero evidence of that.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: mtrott

I always call the cops first when I’m getting ready to stalk someone.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 6:18:03 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mtrott

Should be WTF TV


9 posted on 05/15/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by broken_arrow1
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To: mtrott
Be very careful what you say here lest it be used as evidence of your own thought crimes.

~~Minitrue

10 posted on 05/15/2012 6:21:52 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: sickoflibs

The hate crime charge threat is purely political. They have zero evidence of that.

____________________________

Yep. The work hours wasted by this administration in harassing citizens instead of providing authentic security are legion.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 6:23:42 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Steely Tom

Thanks for being on top of this.


12 posted on 05/15/2012 6:25:11 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: mtrott

The charge in the end will be lying to the FBI. This is their usual last stand when they have nothing else. They are political animals not real cops.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 6:26:10 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mtrott
I miss the old FBI when only a small amount of politics was involved. Miss the old FBI as much as I miss President Reagan.

Would like to tell a story of first hand experience when speaking on the phone with a present day FBI agent within the past year or two. A little background ... Was receiving calls at my location. The calls were from outside the country and were scam related. Called to inform the FBI. Was told by the agent the numbers were changed nearly everyday by the scammers, and the calls were from outside the country, thus no jurisdication and there was nothing which could be done. Noticed on the tele, last night, where an FBI agent was speaking to the press (locally). Speaking of the Incompetan0 if you see something, say something campaign, and speaking of the dollar amounts being taking via scams from America (16 billion last year reported) and that billboards had been erected in several states where the scams were prevalent. It was a warning ... nothing more ... and though was not stated, the policy is ... If you see something, say something, so we (who are in charge) can know you called while we (the FBI and your government) do nothing. Kind of made me laugh nervously.

Politics. Pure and simple. Feel better give us a call was the FBI agent's message. Dear FBI, not feeling better out here, after knowing what was told on the phone when I called.

14 posted on 05/15/2012 6:27:47 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: mtrott

Well,there goes the White-Hispanic vote!


15 posted on 05/15/2012 6:28:38 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Steely Tom

Ah, I checked to see if already posted, but guess I didn’t look far enough back.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 6:31:51 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: mtrott

Reason #5,842 to flush those two turds,Osama Obama and Holder,down the toilet in November.


17 posted on 05/15/2012 6:32:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: mtrott
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18 posted on 05/15/2012 6:33:31 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: mtrott
If the feds go through with this, it will be a huge and egregious waste of taxpayer money.

And it would be an even bigger waste of Zimmerman's money, which is the means to the end -- don't investigate suspicious people, don't dare to challenge a low-class black criminal, don't fight back, and don't own a gun or use it.

We all knew the Feds would jump on this as well, despite any pretensions that they would "wait and see", and for these reasons.

19 posted on 05/15/2012 6:33:43 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SumProVita

This just show the evil political nature of hate crime laws.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 6:36:40 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: mtrott
State prosecutors said Zimmerman gave several inconsistent statements to Sanford police, which is, in part, their basis for charging him with second-degree murder.

The old "inconsistent statements" routine is the first and usually only strategy the police use when they have decided that they WILL arrest somebody regardless of the evidence. Just keep questioning the "suspect" over and over without a lawyer.

21 posted on 05/15/2012 6:38:25 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: mtrott
Since Zimmerman is 1/4 black, he must hate himself, too.

Bottom line is that it is a hate crime to defend yourself against one of Eric Holder's people.

22 posted on 05/15/2012 6:41:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: mtrott

translation: We don’t think Florida can make the homicide case stand up, and we’ve gotta throw a bone to our peeps.


23 posted on 05/15/2012 6:43:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: broken_arrow1

Same thought occurred to me.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 6:44:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
The charge in the end will be lying to the FBI. This is their usual last stand when they have nothing else. They are political animals not real cops.

Did Zimmerman ever even talk to the FBI? I'd be surprised if he had. So I don't think he's been lying to them, and I doubt his lawyer will let him talk to them.

25 posted on 05/15/2012 6:44:21 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: jiggyboy

It’s a communist brainwashing technique.
Go here:
http://www.schwarzreport.org/resources/you-can-trust-the-communists-to-be-communists/chapter-9-brainwashing

Scroll down to the heading “Confusion”, and you’ll see exactly this technique used by communist brainwashing specialists.


26 posted on 05/15/2012 6:47:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mtrott
I find this both discouraging and laughable. Consider all the things the FBI SHOULD be looking into -- corruption in the DOJ, the ATF, and the SS, to name just a few, and yet what are they doing?

Harrassing a guy who by all appearances is innocent. Of course, its bacause as soon as this case broke Obama had it incorperated into his reelection gameplan. Now the truth has come out about Trevor Martin, that he wasn't some sweet angel, but its too late for the left to backtrack. So they're bringin all their guns to bear.

Zimmerman VS the United States -- truly a terrifiying prospect for a private citizen considering how heavily invested the government is in one particular outcome, regardless of justice. This is what America has come to under Obama.

Regards,

Cope

27 posted on 05/15/2012 6:52:18 AM PDT by Copenhagen Smile
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To: SumProVita

This press release is purely to get those black preachers back in line.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bottom line is that it is a hate crime to defend yourself against one of Eric Holder's people.

Ah, the author "anonymous", of a very controversial book written in the 1970's, was a prophet.

29 posted on 05/15/2012 7:03:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mtrott
That might be a tall order, because they would have to explain how, despite Zimmerman's volunteering to mentor underprivileged, i.e., black kids, he harbored all this hatred toward blacks. If the feds go through with this, it will be a huge and egregious waste of taxpayer money.

Easily explained - he was a fox dressing up like a chicken until the opportunity came along...

It's truly frightening that the power of the Feds are being used in this fashion. If they make the move and get away with it, our options to prevent pure tyranny will be limited.

30 posted on 05/15/2012 7:09:39 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: mtrott

Charging Zimmerman with a “hate crime” is a “hate crime” onto itself.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 7:12:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Copenhagen Smile
If Obama is re-elected, Zimmerman can expect to spend at least the next 4 years battling lawsuits, even if he keeps winning, unless someone kills him first.

Someone pointed out that he could face the death penalty if found guilty of a "hate crime."

It's ludicrous that someone who is at least one-eighth black is suspected of a hate crime for watching a person who was acting in a suspicious manner. Assuming his version is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it, it's an outrage what he's been put through. Unfortunately in our society the only thing he has going for him is that he isn't 100% European in ancestry--if he was he'd have even less of a chance of being given a fair trial.

32 posted on 05/15/2012 7:29:49 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Aevery_Freeman
Be very careful what you say here lest it be used as evidence of your own thought crimes.


33 posted on 05/15/2012 7:30:37 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: mtrott
If this is true, it will mark the complete politicization of our justice system.
34 posted on 05/15/2012 7:31:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: jrd

Hate crimes are only for Whitey. The FBI has forgotten Zimmerman is Hispanic and black. Good luck with that scenario.


35 posted on 05/15/2012 7:38:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Zimmerman has more black blood in him than Obama who is more Arab than black.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 7:54:55 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: no-to-illegals
I miss the old FBI

... that just sniper-shot nursing mothers in the brain and gun-shot teenage kids, over 1/4" lengths of rifle stocks. I miss the old FBI, that couldn't take out two Miami punks, because the two agents who had the submachine guns were double-teaming a waitress in the back room of a local dive.

37 posted on 05/15/2012 8:13:25 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Understand your sentiments. Comments were direct toward the 60s and 50s and earlier. The mentioned event perhaps happened later?
38 posted on 05/15/2012 8:41:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Comments were direct toward the 60s and 50s and earlier

You mean back when they were ignoring the Mafia?

39 posted on 05/15/2012 9:25:30 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (May 15 - Jessica Watson day.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

okay, understand ... not in full agreement yet understand.


40 posted on 05/15/2012 9:34:35 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: mtrott

Can the federal gub mint become any more corrupt Or disgusting


41 posted on 05/15/2012 9:37:23 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Can the federal gub mint become any more corrupt Or disgusting”

Yes, and I’m confident that they will.


42 posted on 05/15/2012 11:13:19 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Joe Boucher
Can the federal gub mint become any more corrupt Or disgusting

If Obama is re-elected, to quote Reagan, "You ain't seen nothing yet."

43 posted on 05/15/2012 11:14:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Buckeye McFrog

what about the International Criminal Court? have they weighed in yet?


44 posted on 05/15/2012 11:26:26 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: dfwgator

The country and loss of freedom and equal protection under the law has been going downhill for years. Both Parties are part of it both are opportunists and about power and money for the political elite, and not about economic advantages for the USA, and freedom. It appears that eroding the latter has become a goal.

The move to instigate special protected classes for a few and the ability take away our rights to free speech because of PC was spearheaded by the ADL, SPLC and NAACP and some others. I guess you could call them libs but I also call them self serving.

If the situation was reversed where the victim was a white the talk of hate crime would never come up.


45 posted on 05/15/2012 9:39:26 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: ladyjane

Obama is no Arab. He’s half Luo. Kenneth Lamb is no reliable source.


46 posted on 05/16/2012 5:52:25 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

Half Luo - IF his father really is Obama Sr. Someday we’ll find out who his daddy really is.


47 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:01 AM PDT by ladyjane
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