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The Gay Divorcees (There are more of them than you might think)
National Review ^ | 05/15/2012 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:26:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Announcing the results of his long-term “evolution” on the subject last week, President Obama revived the debate over gay marriage. In the widespread discussion, however, there is one question that’s rarely asked: How interested are gay couples in getting married?

Heretofore at least, the answer seems to be “not really.” Since 1997, when Hawaii became the first state in the union to allow reciprocal-beneficiary registration for same-sex couples, 19 states and the District of Columbia have granted some form of legal recognition to the relationships of same-sex couples. These variants include marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships, and reciprocal-beneficiary relationships; and the most recent U.S. Census data reveal that, in the last 15 years, only 150,000 same-sex couples have elected to take advantage of them — equivalent to around one in five of the self-identified same-sex couples in the United States. This number does not appear to be low because of the fact that only a few states have allowed full “marriage”; indeed, in the first four years when gay marriage was an option in trailblazing Massachusetts, there were an average of only about 3,000 per year, and that number included many who came from out of state.

This dearth of early adopters is not peculiar to America. Research conducted in 2004 by Gunnar Anderson, a professor of demography at Sweden’s Stockholm University, seems to confirm the trend. Anderson looked at legal partnerships in both Norway and Sweden and found that in Norway, which legalized civil unions in 1993, only 1,300 homosexual couples registered in the first eight years, compared with 190,000 heterosexual marriages; in Sweden, between initial passage in 1995 and a review in 2002, 1,526 legal partnerships were registered, compared with 280,000 heterosexual marriages. In the Netherlands, gay marriage is actually declining in popularity: 2,500 gay couples married in 2001 — the year it was legalized — and that number dropped to 1,800 in 2002, 1,200 in 2004, and 1,100 in 2005. In 2009, the last year for which figures are available, less than 2 percent of marriages in the Netherlands were between same-sex couples.

Controlling for the ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals does little to explain the enthusiasm gap. For rates to be similar, we would have to pretend that only 0.5 percent of the population of Sweden, 0.7 percent of the population of Norway, and less than 2 percent of the population of Holland is gay. In fact, the numbers tend closer to an average of 4 percent, which suggests that heterosexual couples are up to eight times more interested in registering their relationships than homosexual couples. It is, of course, possible that the estimated number of homosexuals is wrong, but, if anything, gay-rights groups tend to argue that the projected numbers are too low, and statistics show that the numbers of self-identified gay citizens are going up in every Western country.

Enthusiasm for marriage is somewhat lopsided by gender. Divorces, too. According to UCLA’s Williams Institute, two-thirds of legally recognized same-sex couples in the United States are lesbian. (Solely on the “marriage” front, in Massachusetts’s first four years, this statistic was 62 percent.) While data in the United States are clearly limited, Scandinavian countries have been at this a little longer. Denmark was the first country to introduce recognition of same-sex partnerships, coining the term “registered partnership” in 1989. Norway followed suit in 1993, and then Sweden in 1995. Again, Stockholm University’s study seems to confirm the American trend. In Norway, male same-sex marriages are 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual marriages, and female same-sex marriages are an astonishing 167 percent more likely to be dissolved. In Sweden, the divorce risk for male-male partnerships is 50 percent higher than for heterosexual marriages, and the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men. This should not be surprising: In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.

The debate over marriage does not necessarily hinge on its popularity among the eligible, and advocates of gay unions would no doubt assert that “equality” is not a numerical proposition as quickly as their opponents would aver that the very idea is a hopeless category mistake. But it is nonetheless worth noting that there is no particular groundswell — even in states and cities that have both legal gay marriage and significant numbers of homosexuals — and that, when gay couples do decide to get married, they are more likely than their straight equivalents to change their minds later.

— Charles C. W. Cooke is an editorial associate for National Review.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: divorce; gay; gaymarriage; homosexuality
The word -- GAY used to be such a nice and happy word to use... Not anymore :(


1 posted on 05/15/2012 6:26:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s why “fag” is a better choice. It sounds more apropriate as a descriptor for the behavior anyway.


2 posted on 05/15/2012 6:29:37 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: SeekAndFind

For less than 3% of the population Gays sure make alot of noise.


3 posted on 05/15/2012 6:32:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

What we need is gay Divorce Court. It would be hilarious.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 6:33:01 AM PDT by mnehring
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5 posted on 05/15/2012 6:35:28 AM PDT by narses
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To: skeeter

RE: For less than 3% of the population Gays sure make alot of noise.

As I said before, it use to be called the love that dares not speak its name.

Now it has become the love that won’t shut the F up.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I refuse to use ‘gay’ in this fashion. By co-opting our language they obfuscate the issues involved and define the lens through which we will debate our positions.

They are homosexuals. Practitioners of deviant sexual excess, much as a person who practices sex with animals, children, other people’s spouses, prostitutes, or any destructive and obsessive sexual behavior.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 6:37:16 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Gays” think that getting “married” will fill that void in their life. It doesnt, and won’t. Hence the divorces, protesting for more “rights”, and unhappiness.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 6:38:04 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: SeekAndFind

In general, marriage requires a threshold of maturity to endure and to flourish. Maturity includes teamwork, unselfishness, work ethic.

Same-sex attraction locks a person into a state of immaturity, particularly anger and selfishness. That is not conducive to a strong relationship.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 6:38:43 AM PDT by lurk
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To: 3boysdad

Lots of adjectives come to mind: odd, strange, weird, sick, perverted, disgusting but I think “queer” best describes their behavior just because it is so queer. Sorry if I offend anyone.


10 posted on 05/15/2012 6:42:13 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: SeekAndFind


Picture says it all.

11 posted on 05/15/2012 6:47:10 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: SeekAndFind
In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.

So much for the claim that lesbian relationships are more stable than heterosexual relationships.

12 posted on 05/15/2012 6:51:14 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Introducing the term “gay” as a substitute for the words “queer” or “sodomite” was just a P.R. gimmick to make a stinky personal deviancy more acceptable to useful idiots.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 7:09:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repubbies paid as much attention to Rush as the 'Rats we wouldn't be in this mess)
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Bah! You know why homosexuals love weddings? They will do anything for a party where they get to dress up fancy, be the center of attention, and drink Sour Apple Martinis while giggling over honeymoon sex. Of course, like Biden, everything I know about homosexuals I learned from TV sitcom writers.
14 posted on 05/15/2012 7:14:11 AM PDT by Casie
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish people would remember that it’s not about marriage, it’s about the Big Gay organizations -— with probably hundreds of millions of dollars in their coffers, vast legal departments and PR departments of incredible talent -— to destroy the Christian churches and get special privileges for gays and lesbians.

It’s not about INDIVIDUAL gays and lesbians. The big organizations like GLAAD and the Human Rights Council are powerful players, especially with the media on their side. They have already destroyed the Episcopal Chruch, they’re starting in on the Presbyterian church and they’re raking in more millions by these ‘sensitivity training’ courses in all departments of the federal government.

If somebody says to you, ‘but you probably have someone you love who is gay or lesbian, how can you deny them equal rights’, just say, ‘I have no problem with individual gays and lesbians, but the Big Gay organizations intent to crush my civil rights’. And they do. Raking in tax money as they do it.


15 posted on 05/15/2012 7:26:39 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: mnehring

ROTFL!

I had a mental pic of that! What a hoot that would be! LOL!


16 posted on 05/15/2012 7:29:18 AM PDT by Monkey Face (The best way to begin the day is with laughter. The best way to end it is with more laughter.)
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To: 3boysdad
"It sounds more apropriate as a descriptor for the behavior anyway."

I say go straight to the truth and call them perverts or pervs.

17 posted on 05/15/2012 10:51:05 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: mnehring
What we need is gay Divorce Court. It would be hilarious.

Not to mention FABULOUS!

18 posted on 05/15/2012 11:00:04 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: squarebarb

All the more reason to get the facts out. We need our Christian children to know this information and get it to their peers. We can undo the damage of nearly a century of liberal indoctrination of our youth. We can win.

Pass this article on to your email lists.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 4:03:27 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT!


20 posted on 05/17/2012 9:52:29 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

The co-opting of traditional language/nomenclature is not unique to gay people. If you look at how government agencies construe regulations you will discover many cases of shifting the meanings of words. This shifting has been used frequently by the EPA to ram laws on unsuspecting people. I don’t know how many of these queer are in the EPA but no matter what the precedents get set.


21 posted on 05/17/2012 10:26:24 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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