Posted on 05/15/2012 8:01:29 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
The guy in the article was from out of state though. That is what I meant, if you weren’t local.
I don’t disagree with anything you stated, I know the way things should be but deal with what is.
About 5 or 6 years ago, I was traveling and crossed a state line into Oklahoma and was immediately pulled over by a cop, for not signaling when I merged, he was right, I didn’t signal. He asked for my drivers license, registration and proof of insurance.
I readily found the first two but could not find the insurance card in the glove boxes, he went back to his car while I continued to look. He was on the way back when I popped the trunk lid from inside the car to look there, he casually closed the trunk as he came back by it and said to me, “Never mind that card, I know you have insurance”, handed me my stuff back and wished me a good day.
I asked him how he knew I had insurance. He said, “60 years old, new car, you’ve got insurance”.
On the other hand, when my two sons were 16 and 17 years old they were stopped and had their vehicles searched average a couple times a week. I went to the police chief in our small city (population about 35,000) He said that was about the same number of times they stopped his son too.
Police have a lot of discretion and I really don’t have a problem with “profiling” for druggies and terrorists.
By the way, my youngest son is now a policeman in the same city. He told me that he once pulled a kid over for speeding and asked him for consent to search him, the kid says sure, so the first thing my son did was pull his sock type cap off and out fell a baggie of grass.
Here comes the kicker. The kid with the pot had two options, accept an “ordinance violation” fine $250 and it would not appear on his record or a ticket and go to court and pay a $75 fine and it would go on his record.
The kid accepted the ordinance violation and the whole $250 goes to the city, no sharing with the county. It’s a rotten system and my son agrees but as he points out to me, he doesn’t make the rules, he also said the kid was noticeably high and driving erratically or he wouldn’t have given him any kind of ticket or asked to search him to begin with.
He also polled his fellow officers about citizen concealed carry (this is Illinois) and all 45 - 50 of them were for it, no exceptions. It remains that Illinois is the only state to have no carry for ordinary law abiding citizens.
Are you a Free Mason?
“The kid with the pot had two options, accept an ‘ordinance violation’ fine $250 and it would not appear on his record or a ticket and go to court and pay a $75 fine and it would go on his record.”
That’s called extortion.
You'll find more supporters of this kind of 'legal' theft here than you'd think.
His first mistake was answering the thug's question about the cash. Is second was agreeing to a search.
Rule number one: Don't answer questions other than your name and address. Rule number two: If they want to search, they need a warrant.
“Miles called that “extortion.”
No, that is way too fancy a word.
It’s just theft.
Interesting that they have a law like this that discriminates against out of state people, much to their disadvantage. Is that legit?
You should really not be able to seize anyone’s property under suspicion of criminal activity without actually charging them with a crime.
I mean, is that constitutional?
Hello? Alarm bells.
The answer is "No".
Actually, the answer is "Why do you ask, officer?" If you say "no" and they come up with some pretext to search, and find it, you are on record as having lied to them about it.
'Do you mind if I search your vehicle?'
The answer "Yes I mind. You may NOT search my vehicle."
Yup. Not without a warrant.
Shout that one from the rooftops, Brother!
Do we get to play “Robin Hood” when they play “Sheriff of Nottingham”?
“But the Monterey officer drew up a damning affidavit”
There is the key phase, folks...
Do some research on the subject “Affidavit of Truth”.
Welcome to the USSA, comrade.
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