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Fukushima unit 2 liquification of uranium core. never seen before in history of nuclear power
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Posted on 05/15/2012 10:51:30 AM PDT by yank in the UK

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41 posted on 05/15/2012 11:35:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Shadow44

If true, it means that the containment structure did what it was designed to do...it contained the (formerly) melted core.

Ramification: clean-up is going to be very difficult.


42 posted on 05/15/2012 11:36:26 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Steely Tom

Re: And it melted its way to the center of the Earth, right?

If Jane Fonda says so it must be true LOL!


43 posted on 05/15/2012 11:36:55 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: AmonAmarth
"There will be no remediation possible; resulting in radiological contamination of underground water-ways (interacting ocean and fresh-water aquifers) within this entire region, for hundreds-of-thousands of years."

If it's so dang heavy, why doesn't it travel down instead of spreading laterally? If it IS heading to the earth's core, how is that a problem? I mean, as long as we don't brew beer out of Core-water?

44 posted on 05/15/2012 11:45:00 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: Art in Idaho; proud American in Canada; DTogo

I enjoy listening to Micio Kaku, but he is a die hard rabid leftist, ao you should take anything he says that can have a political angle (global warming, nuclear ower, etc..) with a great deal of skepticism..


45 posted on 05/15/2012 11:45:12 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: yank in the UK

Well...The term China Syndrome is slightly overstated....most people in the know say the liquefied core would melt through the metal and concrete container and bottom out at about thirty feet. It seems that for all the hand ringing about nuclear disasters that as disasters go this one is not near the Apocalypse one of these things was suppose to have been!!!


46 posted on 05/15/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by ontap
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To: colorado tanker

Some one will get you for that!!


47 posted on 05/15/2012 11:48:10 AM PDT by ontap
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To: MrShoop

Exactly.

Here’s the recent monitoring info on the reactors:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/2012parameter/12051511_table_summary-e.pdf

NB the temps at the bottoms of the reactor pressure vessels. Below the point of boiling for water. Warm, but not “hot.”


48 posted on 05/15/2012 11:49:56 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: MrShoop
I enjoy listening to Micio Kaku, but he is a die hard rabid leftist, ao you should take anything he says that can have a political angle (global warming, nuclear ower, etc..) with a great deal of skepticism..

Didn't know he was a rabid leftist. Wish we could get some other heavy hitters to chime in on this with updated information. Anyone you folks know, or can contact?

49 posted on 05/15/2012 11:52:12 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: yank in the UK

When you’re hot you’re hot.


50 posted on 05/15/2012 11:53:59 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: ontap

Remember Y2K? Remember how it was supposed to be the end of modern civilization?

Those of us who actually wrote code for Big Computer Systems were laughing our asses off about the panic.

I don’t believe that any bona-fide nuke operators or objective physics jocks are laughing here, but they’re not running around in circles, yelling “Repent, the end is near!” either.

Cleaning up this mess will be a long, slow, expensive slog... but it will get done.

And the death toll still stands at about: The nuke plant? Three (from physical deaths due to the disaster, not “atomic” deaths), and over 20K from the tsunami.

The hysterics continue to point a quavering finger at the reactors... while ignoring a pile of bodies the size of a pretty good sized town causes by the flooding. I fail to understand the illogic of this, to this day.


51 posted on 05/15/2012 11:56:49 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
As I suspected: the "liquified" (past tense) condition existed in the past, but that condition no longer exists. There appears to be a whole lot of "chicken little" needless panic on this thread.

If all reactors are currently below the boiling point of water, there certainly can be no "liquified (as in "molten) corium" hanging around...

52 posted on 05/15/2012 11:59:48 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: UB355
However what would the movie be called if it were to be made in Japan?

The Uruguay Syndrome

53 posted on 05/15/2012 12:04:09 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: kidd

Doubt it has been reported that it melted through containment, however sounds like it is sitting there as a molten glob, is it even possible to clean that up? I’ve had relatives like this, not good.


54 posted on 05/15/2012 12:11:03 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: yank in the UK
And we ALL know what's coming next...


55 posted on 05/15/2012 12:13:31 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: TXnMA

I don’t find anything that shows a boron catch-pan component in this reactor. I do see they ordered up 52 tons of Boron and then later ordered 90 plus tons of Boron-10 from the French and they were mixing it with water and injecting it.

Boron-11 doesn’t do too much as Boron-10 has one less neutron and provides the perfect catch material for the excess neutrons slowing and cooling the reaction.

Of course, injection yields water vapor that is contaminated as it leaves.


56 posted on 05/15/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Yes. ENENews is an anti-nuclear site. The story was also posted on Ex-SKF blog, which tends to be more middle of the road. Their thread on that topic is linked below. You might find some of the comments there, interesting.

US Physicist Michio Kaku: "Unit 2 we now know completely liquified"

57 posted on 05/15/2012 12:29:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: EyeGuy

Yo Dude,

The word “nip” is pretty derogatory to be using against a good ally.


58 posted on 05/15/2012 12:33:08 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Vendome
Wonder if there will a loud boom when it reaches magma?

Heading in numerous directions. Already veined all over the ground under the plant. Very, Very bad. They were forced to place thick metal plates on the ground around the plants early on just to be able to get close to the reactor buildings safely. Tepco is also lining the ocean floor near the plant with concrete. That should tell you were some of it is headed. Will unfortunately be quite spectacular when it enters the ocean. A steaming and boiling cauldron that may not end in our live times. And guess where all that steam will be heading ?

59 posted on 05/15/2012 12:35:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: yank in the UK
Oops is right.

And just think there are 3 more reactors that are out of control and cannot be fixed. Not to mention, the hundreds of other reactors around the planet, very much capable of this same scenario. This scripture is now possible. The Bible is always correct. It appears that judgement has arrived.

Revelation 16:3 (KJV) 3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

I also read some of the comments and this was very interesting.

"think it means it's no longer in the corium 'blob' state but capable of traveling into the earth's mantle in a stream-like state; which is much worse than any previous worst case scenario. There will be no remediation possible; resulting in radiological contamination of underground water-ways (interacting ocean and fresh-water aquifers) within this entire region, for hundreds-of-thousands of years.
Given the amount of energy needed to maintain a liquified condition without significant surface cooling is unusual. Classical thermodynamics has left the building…

60 posted on 05/15/2012 12:38:26 PM PDT by BigFinn (The King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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