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Fox News Analyst: First American To Shoot Down A Domestic Spy Drone 'Will Become A Folk Hero'
Business Insider ^ | 5/15/2012 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 05/15/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

Charles Krauthammer, the conservative columnist spoke about the use of drones for domestic spying last night.

He blasted the idea:

"A drone is a high-tech version of an old army. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. Yes you can say we have satellites, we have Google Street, we have everything else, but that is no reason to accept a society where you are always watched by the government.

"I would predict the first guy who uses a second amendment weapon to bring a drone down who is hovering over his house will become a folk hero."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-analyst-first-american-to-shoot-down-a-domestic-spy-drone-will-become-a-folk-hero-2012-5#ixzz1uyNlHG00

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KEYWORDS: 2012election; banglist; cwii; dontspyonme; donttreadonme; drone; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; krauthammer; lping; mittromney; shoot
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1 posted on 05/15/2012 1:38:42 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

I was thinking the same thing. Bonus points for hitting one at 30,000 feet.


2 posted on 05/15/2012 1:40:40 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: JohnKinAK

First person to shoot down a spy drone from a R/C helicopter will become a folk hero who is not in jail.


3 posted on 05/15/2012 1:41:18 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: JohnKinAK
Shoot down of civilian 'animal rights drone' by Hunt Club.
4 posted on 05/15/2012 1:41:59 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: mkmensinger

I wonder if Estes makes a kit...


5 posted on 05/15/2012 1:42:11 PM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn If you read this anything this year, read this book!)
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To: JohnKinAK
And be arrested and thrown under the jail when the last image from the drone is John Doe pointing a shotgun at the drone.

But he'll be a hero.

/johnny

6 posted on 05/15/2012 1:42:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Theoria

I would say more type civilian uses will be out there. It will be interesting to see the outcomes.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 1:43:14 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Some guy called into Levin last night,
claimed to have been working on the drone project for overseas use.

He said they have the ability to see through walls.
I’m not sure that I believe it all, but it is a huge 4th amendment issue if they start flying these over people’s farms looking for “violations”.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 1:45:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: JohnKinAK

And here I was thinking I was the only one pondering methods to create a homemade MANPAD that could drop one of these drones.

Americans are very creative and it probably won’t take too long for a “civilian” to come up with a cheap, inexpensive Drone Buster. If that were to happen, I would suspect that this “Folk Hero” would probably be shortly working for one of the larger corporations that develop weapons for our military. :)


9 posted on 05/15/2012 1:45:53 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: JohnKinAK

I assume that they are radio controlled.

I also assume that if it impossible to come up with a video key that cannot be broken it is also impossible to come up with a radio code that cannot be broken.

Therefore I also assume that someone will be able to take control of the drone and do whatever with it.


10 posted on 05/15/2012 1:50:36 PM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: mkmensinger

I think at those altitudes you’d either have to ‘laze’ it (mission kill on the sensors) or hit it with some kind of guided rocket.

Bonus points for hacking the data stream & taking control of it!


11 posted on 05/15/2012 1:50:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: JohnKinAK

i’ll bring it to the taxidermist.


12 posted on 05/15/2012 1:52:06 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Bob Buchholz

I guess you’ll have to ask the Iranians.
After all, ‘bammers gave them access to one of the drones so that they could hack it.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 1:54:32 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Pox
cheap, inexpensive Drone Buster

Mosin-Nagant 91/30

14 posted on 05/15/2012 1:55:01 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: JohnKinAK
"I would predict the first guy who uses a second amendment weapon to bring a drone down who is hovering over his house will become a folk hero."

I suspect the first guy to bring down a drone will do so from behind a keyboard.

15 posted on 05/15/2012 1:55:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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I always wanted to be a folk hero.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 1:55:39 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: MrB
He said they have the ability to see through walls. I’m not sure that I believe it all, but it is a huge 4th amendment issue if they start flying these over people’s farms looking for “violations”.

Just tell liberals that they will be used to catch acts of sodomy for prosecution and they will kill the whole program!

17 posted on 05/15/2012 1:59:34 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Should spur sales of 50mm weapons....


18 posted on 05/15/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by expat2
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To: GBA
I wonder if Estes makes a kit...

Whoa, that shook some cobb webs out of days past memories.

Now I'm wondering whaqt happened to my Heath Kit?

19 posted on 05/15/2012 2:01:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: JohnKinAK

If I had a .50 cal, and knew I’d get away with it, I wouldn’t hesitate.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 2:01:56 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Steely Tom

Good point. Every military advance prompts a countermeasure!


21 posted on 05/15/2012 2:04:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Steely Tom
First person to shoot down a spy drone from a R/C helicopter will become a folk hero who is not in jail.

Food for thought...

22 posted on 05/15/2012 2:05:00 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Mmmmm.... Heath kitkat....


23 posted on 05/15/2012 2:08:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I’m assuming they have FLIR cameras on them. That means they can probably pick up the heat from inside houses but not actual people.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 2:11:24 PM PDT by matt04
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To: JohnKinAK

I figure a good goose load should do it!


25 posted on 05/15/2012 2:12:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GBA

Guideable solid fuel rocket???

Something as small as a drone, 30,000 feet up, would be terribly hard to see wouldn’t it? As well as not being able to get very good pictures of the ground?

If closer, how about flying a kite into it?


26 posted on 05/15/2012 2:12:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Retired experienced London Blitz RAF Spitfire pilots have new job opportunity. Instead of Nazi Buzz Bombs it will now be Obama/Napaliotano Drones.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 2:17:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Steely Tom
First person to shoot down a spy drone from a R/C helicopter will become a folk hero who is not in jail.

Or incinerated by a Hellfire missile.

28 posted on 05/15/2012 2:17:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: JohnKinAK
Gun Shop Owner: “And this is for shooting down domestic spy drones.”

Homer: “Oh, I don’t need anything like that..… YET.”


29 posted on 05/15/2012 2:19:29 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: KoRn

I have images in my mind of some poor SOB in his Cessna 150 practicing “turns around a point” that gets mistaken for a drone........could be like flying over Hanoi in the old days..LOL


30 posted on 05/15/2012 2:21:51 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: JohnKinAK

*sigh*

Looks like I need to hone my small, moving target skills again.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 2:22:36 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: expat2

Yeah, it’s hard enough already to get those 2” artillery shells.


32 posted on 05/15/2012 2:23:36 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: mkmensinger

Latest version of Red-Neck Dove season???


33 posted on 05/15/2012 2:24:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: JohnKinAK

“If I had a rocket launcher...”


34 posted on 05/15/2012 2:25:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: longfellow
i’ll bring it to the taxidermist.

Thank's for the laugh in an otherwise boring day ...............

35 posted on 05/15/2012 2:26:09 PM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: JohnKinAK
Drones are military equipment. Isn't it a violation of Posse Comitatus to use drones over the United States against its citizens?

-PJ

36 posted on 05/15/2012 2:27:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Steely Tom

Seems like all you really need is an R/C airplane with a nose camera to midair the govdrone, no weapons necessary.

Harder to catch the citizen that way, compared to John Doe & his shotgun.

Kamikaze counterdrones. Would it work?


37 posted on 05/15/2012 2:27:43 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: longfellow
i’ll bring it to the taxidermist.


"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung 'im!!"
38 posted on 05/15/2012 2:28:47 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Recall those tanks at Waco?


39 posted on 05/15/2012 2:32:49 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: elcid1970
Would it work?

Not gonna comment on that. Wouldn't be prudent.

40 posted on 05/15/2012 2:33:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ProfoundMan

Perhaps I should have added reliable. :)

Now, if I wanted to shoot down a flying barn...


41 posted on 05/15/2012 2:35:10 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Steely Tom

Cant wait to hear what RC Collins has to say about this tonight on the Phil Hendrie Radio Show


42 posted on 05/15/2012 2:35:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Charles Martel
Food for thought...

I don't know if that's real. I just put 200 rounds out of my Kahr CW45 this morning at the range. You'd think that that itty-bitty copter would show a bit more recoil effect. At LEAST a bit of rifling twist when fired.
Ever fly one of those in a slight wind?
43 posted on 05/15/2012 2:35:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: JohnKinAK

>It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America.<

.
Hell, there are enough bad Somalis, Yemenis and muslim terrorists living in the US under the guise of being American citizens to warrant the use of a drone.

Looking at the multicultural landscape, one has to ask oneself: “Where does America start and where does it end?”

It is certain that the Founders would not recognize the country if they visited it today.


44 posted on 05/15/2012 2:37:07 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: elcid1970

Can you imagine losing a ten thousand dollar drone to a thirty dollar “air hog” with a few fish hooks on stainless leaders!


45 posted on 05/15/2012 2:37:43 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: JohnKinAK

I’d love to be the first person in the U.S. To shoot one out of the
Sky but I lost ALL my guns in a boating accident I’n lake Okeechobee


46 posted on 05/15/2012 2:37:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: JohnKinAK

The government using drones is conducting war on Americans. Resist. Resist. Resist.


47 posted on 05/15/2012 2:40:34 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama's favorite tactic is scapegoating successful Americans.)
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To: doorgunner69
You mean the ones that General Wesley Clark swears were not the cause of the fire?

-PJ

48 posted on 05/15/2012 2:40:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: ProfoundMan
I forgot to make sure that you know I was only joking, that is a reliable and cheap rifle, and accurate depending upon a few factors.

Unfortunately, unless a drone is flying awfully low, it's not going to be susceptible to a rifle.

49 posted on 05/15/2012 2:42:55 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Bob Buchholz
I assume that they are radio controlled.

If you find what frequency they are using and throw up a jamming signal, it should lose contact with the pilot and return to base.

Or fly to Iran. You can never be sure.


50 posted on 05/15/2012 2:43:34 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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