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Dream Act students sue to stop Senate filibuster (illegals sue0
Washington Times ^ | 5-15-12 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 05/15/2012 3:07:59 PM PDT by dynachrome

Illegal immigrant students and members of the House sued the Senate this week to try to overturn the upper chamber’s filibuster rule, arguing that the 60-vote supermajority requirement violates the Constitution and is blocking important legislation such as legalization for illegal immigrants.

If successful, the lawsuit, filed Monday, would rewrite the way the Senate operates — though courts generally have been reluctant to meddle in internal congressional rules.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; congress; corruption; criminalaliens; dreamact; elections; filibuster; georgia; getthehellout; illegalimmigration; illegals; illegalsstudents; immigration; laraza; mexifascism; noamestyforillegals; nostanding; senate
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So this is how obozo will get around the 60 vote thing.
1 posted on 05/15/2012 3:08:10 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome
this kind of crap is to be expected since laws are now only enforced against those for whom the government selects
2 posted on 05/15/2012 3:12:58 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: dynachrome

“Illegal immigrant students”

Why do they have standing to sue anyone?


3 posted on 05/15/2012 3:13:01 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: dynachrome

Illegal aliens are very concerned about the integrity of the Constitution.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 3:13:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: dynachrome

Right, some Obozo judge is going to tell a chamber of 100 who all believe they should be President that they have to change their rules.
It’s get the popcorn time.


5 posted on 05/15/2012 3:14:12 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: skeeter

“Illegal aliens are very concerned about the integrity of the Constitution.”
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Pi$$ on ALL Illegals


6 posted on 05/15/2012 3:17:11 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Injury or prospective injury confers standing - people with no legal right to be present sue every day in courts. If legislation granting something very valuable to them would pass but for an unconstitutional obstruction, that’s perfect standing. The case should be dismissed on other grounds, that it is a political question, which is lawyer talk for courts abstaining from interpreting how the Senate exercises its constitutional power to make and enforce its own rules.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 3:19:52 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: only1percent

This case should be thrown out for lack of standing on the part of the illegal aliens and separation of powers ground for the Congresscritters.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 3:21:31 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: dynachrome

This would once again fall right into the Leftist playbook in that it would subjugate the Congress to the Judicial. I see this as an assault by the Leftists on the equality of the branches of government.

The executive has inappropriate influence over the Judicial in the control of the Department of Justice as it is. This would only serve to increase the Executive power.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 3:22:25 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; Condor51; dynachrome
REFERENCE Florida investigation reveals 180,000 non-citizens may be registered to vote
Right Side News | 1/14/2012 | Dan Spencer / FR Posted by IbJensen

Florida officials have discovered that 180,000 registered voters may be non-citizens. A CBS4/Miami Herald analysis of information supplied by Miami-Dade shows a large number of the potential non-citizens voters cast ballots in the past — including the 2000 election, when the presidency was decided by just over 500 votes.

According to Deputy Supervisor of Elections Christina White, there are a “lot of non-citizens on our registration rolls.” Florida’s Division of Elections is checking the citizenship of voters by comparing drivers license records, which show whether a licensed driver is also a U.S. citizen.

Non-citizens are able to become registered voters in Florida because if a non-citizen checks the box on the voter registration form that says they are a citizen they are registered to vote, because the form is signed under oath.

Those registered who are identified as possible non-citizens are reported to the State Attorney’s office. The States Attorney may charge anyone who unlawfully registered to vote with a felony.

According to the Heritage Foundation’s Hans Von Spakovsky, Florida’s investigation is only looking at legal immigrants, not illegal aliens, who may have registered to vote even though they are not citizens. Von Spakovsky, a former member of the Federal Elections Commission, says that Florida is doing the right thing with this investigation, but is only scratching the surface.

Florida can’t check for illegal aliens who registered to vote because the Federal government is not giving Florida access to Immigration and Naturalization Service records which would help identify illegals who have registered to vote.

You can watch Bill Hemmer and Hans Von Spakovsky discuss Florida’s investigation of non-citizens illegally voting in the accompanying video here (link at web site).

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Nearly four years after CNN reported on the scandalous ACORN voter fraud, and those fraudulent voter registrations were converted into fraudulent votes, we are still struggling to prevent voter fraud. Instead of working to prevent voter fraud, the Obama regime goes so far as to sue some states that require voters to show a photo ID in order to vote.

10 posted on 05/15/2012 3:23:09 PM PDT by Liz
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; Condor51; dynachrome
REFERENCE Florida investigation reveals 180,000 non-citizens may be registered to vote
Right Side News | 1/14/2012 | Dan Spencer / FR Posted by IbJensen

Florida officials have discovered that 180,000 registered voters may be non-citizens. A CBS4/Miami Herald analysis of information supplied by Miami-Dade shows a large number of the potential non-citizens voters cast ballots in the past — including the 2000 election, when the presidency was decided by just over 500 votes.

According to Deputy Supervisor of Elections Christina White, there are a “lot of non-citizens on our registration rolls.” Florida’s Division of Elections is checking the citizenship of voters by comparing drivers license records, which show whether a licensed driver is also a U.S. citizen.

Non-citizens are able to become registered voters in Florida because if a non-citizen checks the box on the voter registration form that says they are a citizen they are registered to vote, because the form is signed under oath.

Those registered who are identified as possible non-citizens are reported to the State Attorney’s office. The States Attorney may charge anyone who unlawfully registered to vote with a felony.

According to the Heritage Foundation’s Hans Von Spakovsky, Florida’s investigation is only looking at legal immigrants, not illegal aliens, who may have registered to vote even though they are not citizens. Von Spakovsky, a former member of the Federal Elections Commission, says that Florida is doing the right thing with this investigation, but is only scratching the surface.

Florida can’t check for illegal aliens who registered to vote because the Federal government is not giving Florida access to Immigration and Naturalization Service records which would help identify illegals who have registered to vote.

You can watch Bill Hemmer and Hans Von Spakovsky discuss Florida’s investigation of non-citizens illegally voting in the accompanying video here (link at web site).

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Nearly four years after CNN reported on the scandalous ACORN voter fraud, and those fraudulent voter registrations were converted into fraudulent votes, we are still struggling to prevent voter fraud. Instead of working to prevent voter fraud, the Obama regime goes so far as to sue some states that require voters to show a photo ID in order to vote.

11 posted on 05/15/2012 3:23:14 PM PDT by Liz
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To: dynachrome
Article I

Section. 5.

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

The rules of the Senate are outside the jurisdiction of an Article III court, this will be thrown out. Even if a judge was crazy enough to try the case or issue an injunction, the Senate will ignore it as unconstitutional.

12 posted on 05/15/2012 3:23:31 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Steamburg

“some Obozo judge is going to tell”

Another judge will change it back for obozo if needed.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 3:25:38 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: All
THE DREAM ACT---getting Raza Studies in every US school.

Raza studies is a virulent anti-America agenda, a bloodthirsty dream by illegals to kill off US citizens:

One Raza Studies textbook titled “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood- curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

This is taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167): “Supporters would execute all white males over age 16,” (this is AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America-hating Raza Studies teach violence and undermining US ntl security----and preaches the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation.

Course, if you oppose this, you are "heartless"....../s.

Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza/LULAC/Mecha/MALDEF indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools.

Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.

Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding and abetting building a Third World on US soil.

14 posted on 05/15/2012 3:25:53 PM PDT by Liz
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To: dynachrome

So, if you’re here illegally, do you have standing, for such a suit?

Personally, I believe ICE should move them from where they’re “standing”....


15 posted on 05/15/2012 3:36:07 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

>>the Senate will ignore it as unconstitutional<<

The all-democratic house and senate ignored things that WERE Constitutional (obamacare).

The reaction will be “thanks for your meaningless opinion.” — and this one will get bipartisan support. The only thing politicians hate more than attacks from each other is attacks on their power.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 3:41:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Liz

It’s articles like this, that make me realize only an all-out conflict in this country is what it will take to finally re-orient it.


17 posted on 05/15/2012 3:42:03 PM PDT by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: G Larry

Very interesting if you can have ‘standing’ to challenge Senate rules as an illegal, but no standing as a citizen to demand that the President prove he was born in the US or is otherwise legally qualified to hold that office.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 3:53:14 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: dynachrome

It’s a political question. A competent, responsible court will kick it out as quickly as they took on Bozo’s claim that the courts should leave Obamacare alone.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/political_question_doctrine


19 posted on 05/15/2012 3:56:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Liz

BTT


20 posted on 05/15/2012 4:07:28 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Yeah, that should work. Thanks dynachrome.


21 posted on 05/15/2012 4:21:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

That’s why we can’t stay home and pout in Nov.!!!!

This tyrant will destroy America, and we’ll have nothing to rebuild!


22 posted on 05/15/2012 4:45:26 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: only1percent

What grants them the right to that standing? The constitution grants citizens the right, but WHAT exactly grants illegals the right to sue ANYONE in US court?

What you just said sounds very nice, but it seems like an assumption to me.


23 posted on 05/15/2012 5:04:11 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: skeeter

“...And we have seen a minority able to cripple dreams.”

Should be:
“...And we have seen a minority able to cripple illegal alien criminal’s dreams.”

Fixed it for you. My bill will be in the mail.

;-)


24 posted on 05/15/2012 7:35:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: dynachrome

Isn’t Obamaland great?

Now go pay your taxes: the illegals need the money to sue. :)


25 posted on 05/15/2012 8:17:16 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: dynachrome

So... We need to pay for an illegals education, but not only are they illegal being here, employers aren’t suppose to hire them because that is illegal; yet we’ll give them student loans and in state tuition breaks. That’s insane! And I had considered going to Florida or Florida State but my parents wouldn’t/couldn’t pay out of state tuition so I froze in upstate NY. You can’t be from out of state but you can be from out of country for in state tuition in some states.


26 posted on 05/15/2012 11:39:31 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
This case should be thrown out for lack of standing on the part of the illegal aliens and separation of powers ground for the Congresscritters.

The case will be thrown out because the Senate is authorized by the Constitution to write and keep its own rules.

This is an idiot lawsuit asking the Courts to overturn the US Constitution.

Article 1 Section 5:
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

The filibuster is a Senate Rule authorized by the US Constitution. This case will go nowhere fast.

27 posted on 05/16/2012 12:58:06 AM PDT by superloser
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Illegals sue in US courts all the time. Day in, day out, day in, day out, day in, day out, in every state, in every Federal district court. And not because nobody’s every figured out that there’s a magic law to bounce them out of court.


28 posted on 05/16/2012 7:23:04 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: dynachrome

https://www.facebook.com/caesar.vargas.9

The filibuster is exactly that — it’s a rule that’s crippled our system of government. Undocumented youth, perhaps like no other group, understands about the legislative process,” said Caesar Vargas, an illegal immigrant who went through college and law school and could benefit from the Dream Act legalization bill. “We have lived it; we have shed tears for it. And we have seen a minority able to cripple dreams.”

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http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/120420-law-samperio-hmed2p.photoblog600.jpg

immigrant Cesar Vargas, 28, who graduated from law school at the City University of New York and passed the state Bar exam in November of 2011, awaits word on whether he will be able to practice law, according to Mercury News


29 posted on 05/16/2012 7:30:05 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: drypowder

Cesar Vargas, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who has passed the bar exam and is in the process of applying for his law license in New York, has started a group, the Dream Bar Association, to advocate for people in his position. Membership numbers about two dozen, and includes those interested in going to law school to those who have passed the bar.

“We’re basically throwing the judicial branch into the immigration debate … through our cases,” he said.


30 posted on 05/16/2012 7:32:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

There are “magic laws” to bounce a lot of the crap we see. But they just get ignored. The 10th amendment is one such magic law.

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Very magic law. So they just ignore it.


31 posted on 05/16/2012 7:35:29 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: superloser

BRIEF OF AMICUS CURIAE
DREAM BAR ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT OF BAR APPLICANT’S RESPONSE TO PETITION

AMY R. PEDERSEN Mexican American Legal Defense & Educational Fund 1016 16th Street, NW Suite 100 Washington, DC 20036-5739 (202) 735-6585, telephone apedersen@maldef.org

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/11/11-2568/Filed_03-22-2012_Amicus_Dream_Bar.pdf


32 posted on 05/16/2012 7:35:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: tickedoffnow; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; Condor51; Grampa Dave; Libloather; ...
It’s articles like this---about blood-thirsty La Raza's violent hate-mongering---that make me realize only an all-out conflict in this country is what it will take to finally re-orient it.

Throughout history, invading hordes harbored dreams of glory----that they would conqueur a people, takeover and subdue them-----and carry home the spoils of war to their homelands.

Keep in mind---that aint never gonna happen here---the American culture and spirit is strong and unconquerable.

These cockamamie invaders will NEVER get their way.

The stupids have tried everything else. Now this action-----suing the Senate-----is indicative of their utter stupidity.

The invaders are too dumb to circum-navigate the sophisticated American democracy. They should get out while the getting is good.

Invincible America was built to last---the founders (of European origins) had keen insight. They were knowledgeable about the vainglorious dreams of alien invaders.

33 posted on 05/16/2012 7:48:18 AM PDT by Liz
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To: John Semmens

(( ping )) to hilarious source material.


34 posted on 05/16/2012 7:53:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dynachrome

Here is some citizens action to counteract the illegal aliens’ efforts. Here is an online petition from the Georgia based Dustin Inman Society. This petition calls for the ending of an illegal alien IRS scam in which illegals can claim child dependents from their home countries or even children that they do not have. Another corrupt give-away to illegals.

Please go on to this website and sign the petition especially if you are from Georgia.

http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-annual-4-2-illegal-alien-irs-scam


35 posted on 05/16/2012 8:01:30 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; LMAO; ...
RE :”Illegal immigrant students and members of the House sued the Senate this week to try to overturn the upper chamber’s filibuster rule, arguing that the 60-vote supermajority requirement violates the Constitution and is blocking important legislation such as legalization for illegal immigrants.

This makes perfect sense : Illegals suing the Senate for not passing amnesty for them.

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36 posted on 05/16/2012 8:06:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; LMAO

Unreal.

Ya just can’t make this sh*t up.....

Oh...and I missed the part where “our” side told them to sit the hell down and shut the hell up, because as illegal criminal trespassers, they have no rights under the US Constitution to sue for ANYTHING. I’m sure that was in there somewhere...../sarc


37 posted on 05/16/2012 8:57:31 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”Oh...and I missed the part where “our” side told them to sit the hell down and shut the hell up, because as illegal criminal trespassers, they have no rights under the US Constitution to sue for ANYTHING. I’m sure that was in there somewhere...../sarc

Better yet is after they jump the border and get in a fight here (after drinking) and show up in an emergency room for free service due to a congressional legal mandate. After the hospital eats the costs (we pay for) the illegal gets a lawyer and sues the hospital for malpractice. Good thing Obama-care fixes this by mandating that we (legals) buy his insurance package.

Then he goes to a Spanish speaking tax preparer to file for his child tax credit based on his kids still in Mexico.

38 posted on 05/16/2012 9:09:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: kcvl
Different thing here.

Suing the Senate to force a rule change in violation of the US Constitution by claiming the rule is unconstitutional will go nowhere fast.

The Bar on the other hand, also makes its own rules but they aren't backed by anything but state statute and since the Court also hears Bar cases....

39 posted on 05/16/2012 9:11:21 AM PDT by superloser
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

“...and show up in an emergency room for free service due to a congressional legal mandate...”

Would be nice if we had some ER doctors who considered themselves American first and just sort of...ignored them...when they showed up and demanded free treatment.

You know...sort of, like, acting like a PEOPLE once again by fighting back in whatever small capacity they can...

But, then again, I forgot...we don’t live in that same country anymore. Silly me.

And oh - by the way...that “free treatment”...a month after Obamacare passed, my ER visit co-pay went from 30 dollars to 200 dollars, and they hounded me for it relentlessly when I was late with it.

I should have just said “No Habla Engrish!!!” when the hospital asked for my insurance...


40 posted on 05/16/2012 9:27:45 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”“...and show up in an emergency room for free service due to a congressional legal mandate...”.....
......Would be nice if we had some ER doctors who considered themselves American first and just sort of...ignored them...when they showed up and demanded free treatment

Sounds easy except they would risk being sued for malpractice and discrimination in US courts.

41 posted on 05/16/2012 9:34:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NFHale; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
RE :”But, then again, I forgot...we don’t live in that same country anymore. Silly me.

I seem to recall telling you that it was gone once or twice when you posted “I want my county back”

You said something about not accepting ‘no’ as an answer,.

Remember when GWB prosecuted Border patrol agents for defending the borders and the judge blocked telling the jury that the victim was an illegal alien drug-runner?

42 posted on 05/16/2012 9:41:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

“...Sounds easy except they would risk being sued for malpractice and discrimination in US courts...”

Yeah, I know...

...but I guess when you compare signing your name to a document that automatically makes you a traitor in the eyes of the King and warrants a death sentence if captured, versus having to deal with some scumbag lawyers and liberal asswipe judges...well...Yeah...I guess I can see where the real threat is...

/sarc

Every action has consequences. But these people are coming here for the “Reconquista”. They fighting US. A “People” (La Raza) against what USED to be a People.

And we’re losing. Because little acts of resistance AREN’T being enacted, especially where they can and will have an impact.

ER docs are a good place to start.

A simple “No, you have NO insurance, like the rest of “US” HAVE to have, and I have bills to pay for this medical education that I spent a fortune to obtain...it wasn’t FREE, and neither are my services. Go back to your own country and use the medical services there.”

We need to start thinking, believing, and ACTING like a people again.

Because the other side sure as hell does, and they aren’t f***ing around.

I know...”good luck with that...”


43 posted on 05/16/2012 9:46:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3

“...I seem to recall telling you that it was gone once or twice when you posted “I want my county back”...”

SOL my friend, I do indeed recall it...you and I have gone round and round on these kinds of threads many times (good naturedly).

It still doesn’t change my statement, though. I want my country back. For a show of hands here, I’d bet I’m not alone in that sentiment.

It has to start somewhere. Little acts of open defiance to “the powers that be”. ER docs are a good start.

Otherwise, it just slides off the cliff into the sh*pile of history.

Yeah, I get down and pessimistic at times...but that doesn’t mean I’ll quit trying. Whatever little acts of passive resistance and defiance we can do, we should do.

I also understand the reality of it. Most people aren’t ready for the consequences of it, or willing to suffer them and risk everything.


44 posted on 05/16/2012 9:57:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”...but I guess when you compare signing your name to a document that automatically makes you a traitor in the eyes of the King and warrants a death sentence if captured, versus having to deal with some scumbag lawyers and liberal asswipe judges...well...Yeah...I guess I can see where the real threat is...

King???

Have you tried these type of ideas yourself to see how they work out?

How about telling the IRS that they will no longer get a penny of your money because they spend it unconstitutionally? You can probably email us from Federal prison to keep us informed on your progress. We will email you uplifting messages.

45 posted on 05/16/2012 10:03:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NFHale; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
RE :”“...I seem to recall telling you that it was gone once or twice when you posted “I want my county back”...”...
......SOL my friend, I do indeed recall it...you and I have gone round and round on these kinds of threads many times (good naturedly).
It still doesn’t change my statement, though. I want my country back. For a show of hands here, I’d bet I’m not alone in that sentiment.

Maybe after 4 years of Romney as POTUS you will feel like you took a time machine back 20 or 30 years into the past making this nightmare go away. You feelin that surge of optimism yet ? :)

46 posted on 05/16/2012 10:09:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

“...King???...”

As in “...of England”... as in back in the day.

“..Have you tried these type of ideas yourself to see how they work out?..”

So you have solutions, then...that is, other than being the “Sultan Of Snarky Comments” out here !!! :^) :^)

We all do whatever little acts of rebellion we can, where we can...


47 posted on 05/16/2012 5:35:52 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3

“...Maybe after 4 years of Romney as POTUS you will feel like you took a time machine back 20 or 30 years into the past making this nightmare go away. You feelin that surge of optimism yet ? :)...”

No...not at all. Romney doesn’t set off the Liberty Bell in my head either...

But...and I know I’ll get flak for this...Romney doesn’t strike me as someone who hates his own country like this current jackwad does.

Either way, we’ve a long road to hoe.


48 posted on 05/16/2012 5:39:09 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; S; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
RE :”But...and I know I’ll get flak for this...Romney doesn’t strike me as someone who hates his own country like this current jackwad does.

Incoming flak LOL

Yep, and that is why unlike Obama, Romney will be able to get MANY Republican congressional votes on stuff that Dems want so he can take credit for ‘getting things done’. Recall it was a GWB/Pelosi energy bill that banned safe cheap lightbulbs.

BTW : My fire department sent out a newsletter to warn us that those new improved GWB/Pelosi energy efficient light bulbs are dangerous and they showed real pictures of burn victims from them. They looked pretty gruesome, but to fix the world you have to break a few eggs right?

DA-DA-DA,

49 posted on 05/16/2012 6:53:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NFHale; AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”So you have solutions, then...that is, other than being the “Sultan Of Snarky Comments” out here !!! :^) :^)

Solutions??? Snarky?? Someone else called me that recently LOL

I am stocking up on light bulbs so I don't have to use the new GWB/Pelosi toxic firebombs.
With all GWB talk of WMDs, he then works with Pelosi to replace our light-bulbs with mini WMDs that we put in light sockets. Did they come from Saddam?

SJB had the best solution, buy property in Australia because as I told him, in 4 years we will remember these as the good times,

50 posted on 05/16/2012 7:00:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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