Skip to comments.What Zimmerman, Martin medical reports tell us and the media didn't
Posted on 05/16/2012 2:07:07 PM PDT by Bobbys1963
The new medical reports on the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case tell us a lot. And it is not just for what they find, but also what they dont find.
First, the reports provide striking evidence that Zimmerman did not start the fight with Martin, and that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense. Martins injuries were two-fold: broken skin on his knuckles and the fatal gunshot wound.
Zimmermans injuries involved: a fractured nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury.
It takes considerable force to break the skin on multiple knuckles. The large range of injuries on Zimmerman indicates that the Martins attack was prolonged. But here is what is missing: where are the injuries to Zimmermans hands? Where are the bruises on Martins face or other parts of his body? . . .
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Al Sharpton is seen again as a liar and Racist.
Oh wait wasn't Trayvon BHO's son.
But it can’t be true, Martin only wanted to get his skittles home to his sick mama then was going to head for church as he is a choir boy.
He’s got a broken face.
Any lawyers out there who want to clarify that. What words would Zimmerman have had to utter to constitute a provocation?
What are you doing here? You don't belong here. I don't like your hoodie. I don't like Black people. The "N" word. I'm going to shoot you.
Are there any words that would justify a retaliation with a physical assault?
The contemptible prosecutor should be on the business end of “hate crime” charges.
Not that the DA will care. Even if it’s established to everyone’s satisfaction that Martin started the fight and ZImmerman was losing—and that will never happen—they’ll still contend that Zimmerman *really* started it. They’ll say Martin wasn’t doing anything wrong, that Zimmerman precipitated violent conflict by “profiling” him for being black and wearing a hoodie, by “following” and “confronting” him (which are apparently now crimes in themselves, even though Zimmerman’s not charged with them), and by being motivated by a depraved mindset whereby, I don’t know, he thinks all potential robbers (especially black ones) should be murdered.
Well, yeah, but don’t the medical reports also mention the essential facts: that Martin was Black, and Zimmerman White?
Trayvon was a punk. He should not have jumped Zimmerman since Zimmerman was not threatened him. Typical punk. Did Trayvon get what he deserved? Zimmerman had no choice. This pony show by Florida is a pure example that maybe the time has come to dump a lot of heads.
Welcome to Obama's 'reverse parallel universe'.
I believe this is why Obama has the FBI looking in to filing "hate crime" charges. He has a lot invested in this case politically.
I still ask how Zimmerman got from his car where he was perfectly safe, to the street where he got beat up and Martin got shot? Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin by the dispatcher when he called the police, and he was in his car then.
A visit to DU confirms your theory.
If I recall correctly, when Zimmerman’s attorney was questioning the prosecutor’s office detective during the bond hearing, did he not ask him if he had seen the medical files. I believe he responded no. I think the attorney then asked if he would like to see them but said the prosecution has an avenue to obtain them.
Having the records shown on the state’s evidence list indicates to me this is a lame attempt to provide esculpatory evidence now rather than in the complaint in which it belonged. If that is true and if it is also correct they had the medical file at the time of charging, they could be in deep legal do do with the judge. This case could get tossed long before trial on a prosecutorial error which would be great.
Bring popcorn when the preliminary hearing begins. If the state has nothing more than is indicated by the witness list, they have no chargable case.
He was told NO SUCH THING. The dispatcher said we don’t need you to do that, quite different then saying don’t do that.
“we don’t NEED you to do that” is not a lawful order from a police officer.
And another thing- Zim’s atty needs to start building a case. Arguably, some violated his civil rights in the pursuit of a favorable political outcome, which she spearheaded. And in the process we might be surprised (or not) how far up the chain the pressure flowed.
“Are there any words that would justify a retaliation with a physical assault?”
Yes. They are called “fighting words.” I don’t know if “nigger” alone would count, but “I’m going to shoot you” definitely would. Certainly in that situation.
The thing is, there’s no evidence of that on the 9-11 tape, nor did the neighbor who witnessed the fight hear it, nor Martin’s girlfriend, so far as I can tell. The fight started somehow, and it could have been Zimmerman’s fault. Not just fighting words, but sudden movements and brandishing his weapon would count. But the burden of proof is on the prosecution. They have to present evidence that Zimmerman instigated the violence, and so far all they have is that he followed Martin and “confronted” him, which could mean anything.
They have what they thinkis evidence of a depraved mindset in his obsession with stopping crime and in possibly profiling Martin. Such is necessary for 2nd degree murder, but not sufficient. You can kill someone in self-defense with a depraved mindset, when they threatened your life. A rabid racist can kill a black man who attacked him out of the blue, even if he also took great racist pleasure in it. You have to have started the fight to lose the right of self-defense. And to be convicted for having started it, the state needs evidence to prove you did.
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