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Army Reviews Whether to Allow Women in Ranger School
Newsmax ^ | 16 May 2012 | N/A

Posted on 05/16/2012 9:12:40 PM PDT by Publius804

WASHINGTON — Army leaders have begun to study the prospect of sending female soldiers to the service's prestigious Ranger school — another step in the effort to broaden opportunities for women in the military.

Gen. Raymond Odierno, Army chief of staff, said Wednesday that he's asked senior commanders to provide him with recommendations and a plan this summer. And while he stressed that no decisions have been made, he suggested that Ranger school may be a logical next step for women as they move into more jobs closer to the combat lines.

"If we determine that we're going to allow women to go in the infantry and be successful, they are probably at some time going to have to go through Ranger school," Odierno told reporters. "If we decide to do this, we want the women to be successful."

According to Odierno, about 90 percent of senior Army infantry officers have gone to the school and are qualified as Rangers. Allowing women to go to Ranger school, he said, would allow them to be competitive with their male counterparts as they move through the ranks.

Going to Ranger school, however, does not automatically mean women would be allowed to serve in one of the Army's three elite Ranger battalions, which are Army special operations forces. In fact, many male soldiers who wear the coveted Ranger tab on their uniforms never actually serve in one of the three battalions.

Currently, women are not allowed to serve in special operations, infantry or armor forces, which are considered the most dangerous combat jobs. They are, however, allowed to serve in a number of support jobs such as medics, military police and intelligence officers that are sometimes attached to combat brigades.

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KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; females; militarywomen; politicalcorrectness; rangers; stupid; women; womenincombat
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1 posted on 05/16/2012 9:12:49 PM PDT by Publius804
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First, they should match the men in every score, number, measure, exercise, distance, weight and time. There should be no fudging the standards down for women.

Second, why would a woman want to do this?


2 posted on 05/16/2012 9:18:58 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Publius804
Pure insanity. Is the military a social program or the protector of our nation?
3 posted on 05/16/2012 9:20:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: lurk

Don’t worry they will fudge it. /sarc


4 posted on 05/16/2012 9:21:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Publius804

..with a washout rate of maybe 60% now..this don’t make any sense


5 posted on 05/16/2012 9:23:15 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Publius804
According to Odierno, about 90 percent of senior Army infantry officers have gone to the school and are qualified as Rangers. Allowing women to go to Ranger school, he said, would allow them to be competitive with their male counterparts as they move through the ranks. Sounds like Ray knows which side his bread's buttered on. There may be a few triathlete type women who could make it through Ranger School (assuming allowances were made for field hygiene and sanitation issues, and they doubtless will be), but "allowing women (or one-armed trans-gendered Croats, for that matter) to be competitive with their male counterparts" is not why we have a Ranger School, or a military for that matter.
6 posted on 05/16/2012 9:23:27 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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unless Odumbo wants to lower standards.....that he is quite accustomed to......


7 posted on 05/16/2012 9:26:00 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; lurk

Your premise is the correct one. Israel incorporated women into combat-ready units only because they had to as a matter of preparedness and national survival.

We’re not there yet.


8 posted on 05/16/2012 9:26:57 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Publius804
According to Odierno, about 90 percent of senior Army infantry officers have gone to the school and are qualified as Rangers. Allowing women to go to Ranger school, he said, would allow them to be competitive with their male counterparts as they move through the ranks. Sounds like Ray knows which side his bread's buttered on. There may be a few triathlete type women who could make it through Ranger School (assuming allowances were made for field hygiene and sanitation issues, and they doubtless will be), but "allowing women (or one-armed trans-gendered Croats, for that matter) to be competitive with their male counterparts" is not why we have a Ranger School, or a military for that matter.
9 posted on 05/16/2012 9:27:18 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: Doogle

Maybe they could substitute multiple choice tests for a few of the ruck marches.


10 posted on 05/16/2012 9:28:23 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Publius804

BOHICA


11 posted on 05/16/2012 9:28:57 PM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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This is just the continual softening of the US Military.
They will tell us that they won’t lower the standards of the Rangers but lowering the standards will be the end result. Otherwise the cries of unfairness will start to reverberate throughout the halls of congress. I suffered through women being forced on the Navy fleet and saw the results of PC firsthand. We are friggin doomed.


12 posted on 05/16/2012 9:30:05 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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There may be a few triathlete type women who could make it through Ranger School

You forgot hand-to-hand combat. They'd have to fight men.

13 posted on 05/16/2012 9:30:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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We’re a huge nation of 320 million souls. I can’t imagine a situation where we’d need to use females in those roles. I’d rather see a foreign legion before that.


14 posted on 05/16/2012 9:31:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Publius804

That’s negatory


15 posted on 05/16/2012 9:34:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Publius804

This will only work if they completely wussify Ranger School. They will have to lower the standards so much just for the women to pass the physical requirments it would be a joke. Can’t wait to see how they handle the 200’ night rappel. Ranger stakes would be interesting.


16 posted on 05/16/2012 9:36:09 PM PDT by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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This will only work if they completely wussify Ranger School. They will have to lower the standards so much just for the women to pass the physical requirments it would be a joke. Can’t wait to see how they handle the 200’ night rappel. Ranger stakes would be interesting.


17 posted on 05/16/2012 9:36:22 PM PDT by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: Publius804
"You have a problem with that?"


18 posted on 05/16/2012 9:38:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Publius804; lurk; 2ndDivisionVet; pawdoggie; Red Steel; hillarys cankles

Now that the sodomites and lesbians are officially ordained, the Pentagon will never pass up an opportunity to direct the services towards humanist social alchemy and social engineering.

The Ranger sub-culture that ensures victory demands totalitarian mental and physical harshness to overcome their chaotic, barbaric, and brittle environments. The question is not whether women can meet some newly fabricated minimum set of qualifications, but whether they can join the few exceeding the expectations of accomplished combat infantrymen.

My son is a former Marine and my war was with the Brown Water Navy in Vietnam. There will be a terrible price paid. We both discourage anyone who asks about joining the military. Victory and the warrior ethic are no longer important values.


19 posted on 05/16/2012 9:42:59 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoever said Leftists or women are sane?


20 posted on 05/16/2012 9:45:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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