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Whites Account for Under Half of Births in U.S.[Major Impact On Economic & Political ID of US!]
NY Times ^ | May 17, 2012 | SABRINA TAVERNISE

Posted on 05/16/2012 9:58:14 PM PDT by Steelfish

Whites Account for Under Half of Births in U.S. By SABRINA TAVERNISE May 17, 2012

WASHINGTON — After years of speculation, estimates and projections, the Census Bureau has made it official: White births are no longer a majority in the United States.

Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 49.6 percent of all births in the 12-month period that ended last July, according to Census Bureau data made public on Thursday, while minorities — including Hispanics, blacks, Asians and those of mixed race — reached 50.4 percent, representing a majority for the first time in the country’s history.

Such a turn has been long expected, but no one was certain when the moment would arrive — signaling a milestone for a nation whose government was founded by white Europeans and has wrestled mightily with issues of race, from the days of slavery, through a civil war, bitter civil rights battles and, most recently, highly charged debates over efforts to restrict immigration.

While over all, whites will remain a majority for some time, the fact that a younger generation is being born in which minorities are the majority has broad implications for the country’s economy, its political life and its identity. “This is an important tipping point,” said William H. Frey, the senior demographer at the Brookings Institution, describing the shift as a “transformation from a mostly white baby boomer culture to the more globalized multiethnic country that we are becoming.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin

1 posted on 05/16/2012 9:58:22 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Oh, joy...


2 posted on 05/16/2012 9:59:44 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Steelfish

Chesterton on birth control/population control:

In 1925 Chesterton wrote an introduction to Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol in which he said that “The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him, whether he is part of the surplus population; or if not, how he knows he is not.”


3 posted on 05/16/2012 10:07:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

Better get back to the Bible in every way, including being fruitful and multiplying.


4 posted on 05/16/2012 10:07:57 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Steelfish

It really wouldn’t matter what color or race people were, if they solidly believed the Bible. Our great Country was founded and built upon the beliefs and principles in the Bible. Time to get back to them, and spread them. If we don’t, it is to our own detriment.


5 posted on 05/16/2012 10:12:21 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Steelfish

Free market. “White people” don’t believe in the future.


6 posted on 05/16/2012 10:20:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Steelfish
My wife and I have 4 adult children, and 8 grandchildren (four boys and four girls). All of them are Caucasian. WE are doing our part.
8 posted on 05/16/2012 10:26:53 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Steelfish

Better start working on that tan.


9 posted on 05/16/2012 10:29:47 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SoldierDad

Birth Control by Whites - Recipe for Economic, Social, and Political Chaos. See Eurozone for reference.


10 posted on 05/16/2012 10:30:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Time to ban abortion and birth control.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 10:39:24 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: nickcarraway

OR, they have the old fashioned idea that one should be able to support them financially before bearing them....


12 posted on 05/16/2012 10:46:05 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Gray Davis held a special event celebrating the fact that Whites dropped below 50% of the California population. I’m sure that wasn’t racist at all...


13 posted on 05/16/2012 10:47:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
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To: Steelfish

So I assume that makes whites the new minority? If so, YO! I wants my RIGHTS! I am sick and tired of being oh-ppressed by the MAN!


14 posted on 05/16/2012 11:00:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: DoughtyOne

I hope he gets mugged.


15 posted on 05/16/2012 11:07:27 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Steelfish

Look what the stork brought.....

A political catastrophe for Conservatives.

As a group, Asians, Hispanics and Blacks vote close to 75% for the Democratic Party.

New immigrant citizens vote close to 80% for the Democratic Party.

This NY Times article is “Political Power” dressed up to look like Sociology.


16 posted on 05/16/2012 11:08:53 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

That’s eventually going to be self limiting as that is the political group tending to more abortions (and contraceptives).


17 posted on 05/16/2012 11:16:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Steelfish

Whites Account for Under Half of Births in U.S.[Zero Impact On Economic & Political ID of US!]

Zero impact.

Why?

Because it doesn’t matter whether the births are white, black, purple, or yellow IF the main things they think about are “What’s the best cell phone?” or “Who’s ahead in American Idol?”

Get my drift???


18 posted on 05/16/2012 11:23:26 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Steelfish

The MSM and communists are wetting their pants with glee.

I for one don’t give a golly damn what your skin color is, but nobody of sound mind is going to pretend that black and hispanic families/children are renown for their focus on success through advanced education.

So this bodes well for our coming communist masters. They can’t afford to have independent self-sufficient masses. They need people who can be made to feel comfortable in their multi-generation dependency. That is what they seek and what they are delivering.

Our coming communist masters are well pleased. The minions of their MSM propaganda wing wet their pants with glee.

All of you white liberals should be thrilled to know you have condemned your own grandchildren to minority status in their own native nation. Nice. Good going. No doubt they will be sure to thank you heartily on your success in giving them 2nd class citizenship in their own nation.

You succeeded beyond your wildest dreams. Evil laughter echoes in the depths of hell courtesy of Ted Kennedy. He got everything he ever dreamed of.


19 posted on 05/16/2012 11:23:26 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I heard some liberal talking once, lamenting that Christian conservatives, Orthodox Jews, and other people of faith, tend to have more children than liberal types. I think this liberal feared the political repercussions of so many conservative leaning people having more children.

This person also thinks that religion is a form of brainwashing, and fears that all these kids will vote in lockstep with parents, never think for themselves, etc.

Maybe at the root of liberal angst is that they want political power above all else. They fear being outnumbered/outvoted.


20 posted on 05/16/2012 11:24:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I heard some liberal talking once, lamenting that Christian conservatives, Orthodox Jews, and other people of faith, tend to have more children than liberal types. I think this liberal feared the political repercussions of so many conservative leaning people having more children.

This person also thinks that religion is a form of brainwashing, and fears that all these kids will vote in lockstep with parents, never think for themselves, etc.

Maybe at the root of liberal angst is that they want political power above all else. They fear being outnumbered/outvoted.


21 posted on 05/16/2012 11:25:15 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I heard some liberal talking once, lamenting that Christian conservatives, Orthodox Jews, and other people of faith, tend to have more children than liberal types. I think this liberal feared the political repercussions of so many conservative leaning people having more children.

This person also thinks that religion is a form of brainwashing, and fears that all these kids will vote in lockstep with parents, never think for themselves, etc.

Maybe at the root of liberal angst is that they want political power above all else. They fear being outnumbered/outvoted.


22 posted on 05/16/2012 11:25:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Steelfish

Yay, affirmative action gets banned just in time! /sarc


23 posted on 05/16/2012 11:27:41 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Steelfish

Liberal thinking is, when nobody is a majority, we will all hold hands and sing “Kumbaya”.

Reality is that in neighborhoods throughly mixed among people of different races and cultures, people become suspicious and far less likely to help their neighbor.

Once again, liberal utopian dreams meet the nightmare of unexpected consequences.

Balkanization is baked into the cake.

I worked in San Francisco for 12 years. We had people from cultures the world over at work. The good news is that we all worked together from common ground.

The bad news is, when it came time to eat or hang, it was always, the white guys with the white guys, the middle easter guys with the middle eastern guys, the asians with asians, the blacks with blacks, the east Indians with east Indians, the women with women (generally by race/region/nationality as with guys above.

The human race is naturally self segregating. It is just human nature.

I pray I won’t be around when to see our balkanization. I really do.

The blacks are going to be the losers in this mix. They will go from having a non-hispanic white majority to having a hispanic white majority. Six two and even the hispanics don’t play nice with them the way the old Christian white guys did when hispanics become the dominate political power block.


24 posted on 05/16/2012 11:29:41 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

The Christian faith is the only serious force for friendly ethnic integration that the world has seen. But even that, properly viewed, is a private affair, subject to ups and downs. It is fortunate that most of America identified itself nominally with Christianity as long as it has, but the bible foretells days when much faith will grow cold and it seems that this is happening now. So hello again Balkanization.


25 posted on 05/16/2012 11:37:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

We just shared The LORD with two really nice Hispanics today. They loved us and we loved them. One of them offered that if we ever come to their area of the Country that we can stay with him and his family any time. We witness to people of all cultures and find that Christ truly does break down barriers.


26 posted on 05/16/2012 11:40:21 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

I could not care less about a persons skin color. I care about their conscience and their morals, and if they live by the golden rule and are an upstanding citizen. So that is not the issue.

I don’t believe all cultures are equal, that is all. Many hispanics are fine, but then we wouldn’t have the severe gang problem we have today if they hadn’t imported it.

So it is not about skin color per se, theoretically. It is just human nature to self-segregate and to balkanize.

It was bad enough when Christians hated jews, and everyone else hated the Irish and the Italians. Irish need not apply was the law of the land in many places for a long time.

It is just now that we are fractured along racial and cultural lines, our balkanization is certain and will come rapidly. It’s really sad. Our nation was a melting pot. Now it is just a mix and the mixing isn’t very well done. Too much oil and water in the mix. Neither is inherently bad, but oil and water don’t mix so you get guarnteed separation.

That is the future of America. Guaranteed separation. The commie libs thought that when we were well mixed with every combination under the sun, we would have a homogeneous mixture all acting color blind. This will never happen. Instead we are going to fracture into a dozen camps.

It’s really sad what they have done to this once more or less unified nation. But how do you conquer if you don’t first divide?


27 posted on 05/17/2012 12:15:29 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Amberdawn

I hear ya...


28 posted on 05/17/2012 12:25:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
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To: Steelfish

and probably pay about 3/4 of all the taxes.


29 posted on 05/17/2012 12:37:23 AM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: Steelfish

One wonders what Zimmerman would be classified as in these statistics.


30 posted on 05/17/2012 1:09:15 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Steelfish

If you regionalize this dynamic, I`m betting the numbers are far more shocking. I suspect white births in the Southwest are hugely outpaced by hispanics. How about Arab births in the upper Midwest? That can`t be an encouraging development either.


31 posted on 05/17/2012 1:59:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Bellflower

>> It really wouldn’t matter what color or race people were, if they solidly believed the Bible.

Amen. Believed in the Bible, that is, AS WELL AS practiced what is in it. Doers, not just hearers.

Your profound statement is at the very heart of whether this great country can remain great — or not.

FRegards


32 posted on 05/17/2012 2:25:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Steelfish

the sky is falling! THE SKY IS FALLING!

oh wait: they are talking about me and my family.

My family members include folks who are mixtures of Irish /Italian/ Colombian Hispanic/ Guatamalan Hispanic/ WASP/ Norewegian/ Filipinos and Japanese, not to mention the one who is a hillbilly who claims she is part Cherokee despite being a blue eyed blond.

But under affirmative action, only the Blond Cherokee counts, I guess.


33 posted on 05/17/2012 2:30:31 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
It is just human nature to self-segregate and to balkanize.

Yes, and no. Sure, we live next to those who are likely to understand us. But until the advent of hyphenating our national affiliation, we were all Americans.

It is the ______-American who has not placed this country first.

We used to be Americans of ________ ancestry, but American was the foremost and key word.

Subtle? Perhaps, but that subtle change in mindset which placed the divisions ahead of the unifying factor has taken its toll.

34 posted on 05/17/2012 3:00:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ScottinVA

I’ll tell you that white births in the northeast are hugely outpaced by Hispanics; the government will never honestly tell us how badly skewed the birthrate is now. Remember they said blacks might be outnumbered by Hispanics in 2010? In 2002 they announced that it had already happened...in 2000.

If they were honest about what was happening whites would demand action similar to what BJ Clinton had done in 1996 with the welfare reform re-election ploy: stop giving money to people to breed recklessly. It dropped the urban black birth rate significantly. Whites are taxed to death (to the point where they feel one or two children at most is what they can afford, if any), while those taxes are funding millions of anchor babies and others that are bred simply to qualify for government housing, food stamps, etc. There is little parenting taking place, simply breeding.


35 posted on 05/17/2012 3:09:02 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Steelfish
What is distressing about this is that the American people have never favored open immigration and an exchange of populations. The demographic transformation, whatever its eventual cultual and political outcomes, has been engineered by political elites angling for power, and at every moment of decision has been driven against majority popular opinion.

Since we are about to become a majority minority country, we have just once chance to get it right or we'll balkanize. We need to commit to race neutrality and treating people as individuals, period. But the race hustlers oppose that, so we are probably headed towards generations of conflict. Sad.

36 posted on 05/17/2012 3:10:22 AM PDT by sphinx
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“But under affirmative action, only the Blond Cherokee counts, I guess.”

The females do as well; that is why they are 60% of our college students. More divide & conquer...


37 posted on 05/17/2012 3:10:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Steelfish
Ehh, Texas has been a minority-majority state for several years, and Hispanics are within a few years of passing up whites here, and the Democrats have been doing everything they can to take advantage of it.

Thankfully the Democrats have been idiots, but unfortunately with a few decades of liberals from California, New England, and Florida moving in, things aren't looking good. 5 out of the 6 largest cities went for Obama, and the 6th was mighty close.
38 posted on 05/17/2012 3:22:52 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: sphinx
The demographic transformation, whatever its eventual cultual and political outcomes, has been engineered by political elites angling for power, and at every moment of decision has been driven against majority popular opinion.

Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with the transformation - it was going to happen. This country is built upon thousands of years of God knows how many American Indian tribes shoving each other aside, then Anglos shoving the American Indians aside, now other groups are shoving them aside. Hell, my ancestors were Spaniards who came to the Americas nearly 500 years ago.

What I have a problem with is the Republicans and Democrats who don't want to deal with the issues of illegal immigration, and in fact want to accelerate and encourage it with "guest worker" programs and amnesty.

Look at George W. Bush - he was pushing a guest worker program not long after Texas had become a minority-majority state. I found that very odd.

I also have a problem with the fact that Republicans aren't making serious attempts at connecting with Hispanics. Many Hispanics are a lot more conservative than people think, but the Republicans seem intent on just giving up to the Democrats.
39 posted on 05/17/2012 3:31:34 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Steelfish

Whites have been postponing having more children during the Great Recession and will likely see a spurt of births in a real recovery (not the phony we now have.) Young people are also postponing marriage for the same reason — and marriages will surge and so will babies.


40 posted on 05/17/2012 3:39:26 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: LadyDoc
the one who is a hillbilly who claims she is part Cherokee despite being a blue eyed blond

You're related to Elizabeth Warren?
41 posted on 05/17/2012 4:50:00 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Bellflower
Better get back to the Bible in every way, including being fruitful and multiplying.

Not sure, but doesn't the Bible also say that our numbers will be much fewer in the days leading up to Satan's demise?

42 posted on 05/17/2012 5:10:41 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: LadyDoc

I’m a mix of African, German, English, Scot-Irish, and Seminole Indian. America is becoming more like Brazil, a multinational country. And most beautiful women in the World lives in Brazil. So I see this as an encouraging development.


43 posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:14 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Steelfish

The illegals plus all on the welfare dole are breeding like rats. Why? Simple...the blameless welfare system.

Free food, babies, housing, money, legal aid, entitlements, and best of all.........no one holding them accountable.

White people on the other hand have to pay for all of these good benefits of spewing babies out like wet watermelon seeds.

The next report I would like to see is the one that shows how much tax is actually paid by what race. I think I already know the answer.


44 posted on 05/17/2012 5:50:38 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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