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Vt. becomes 1st state to ban hydraulic fracturing
Fuel Fix ^ | May 17, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/17/2012 5:01:58 AM PDT by thackney

Gov. Peter Shumlin on Wednesday signed into law the nation’s first ban on a hotly debated natural gas drilling technique that involves blasting chemical-laced water deep into the ground.

The Democrat, surrounded at a Statehouse ceremony by environmentalists and Twinfield Union School students who pushed for the ban, said the law may help Vermont set an example for other states. The ban may be largely symbolic, though, because there is believed to be little to no natural gas or oil beneath the surface in Vermont.

The gas drilling technique, called hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, involves the high-pressure injection of water and chemicals into the ground to split rock apart and release natural gas or oil.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: energy; fracking; naturalgas; oil
excerpted due to AP source

Vermont, where nobody drills for oil/gas and they want to keep it that way.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BHI/1878192322x0x568754/3678A5AB-D189-4F58-AF68-B48D4F1000A5/Rigs_by_State_051112.pdf

1 posted on 05/17/2012 5:01:59 AM PDT by thackney
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Vermont’s decision is fine with me. However, states that do frac for oil and gas should not ship any fuel to Vermont either.


2 posted on 05/17/2012 5:05:52 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: thackney

Neither the Marcellus or Utica shale formations extend into Vermont.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 5:13:11 AM PDT by cork
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To: Lion Den Dan
Vermont’s decision is fine with me. However, states that do frac for oil and gas should not ship any fuel to Vermont either.

I agree. There must be some seriously power crack up in Vermont. Those people are off the deep end.

4 posted on 05/17/2012 5:13:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Extended further,
a law should be proposed that states that anyone who advocates for alternative energy by suppressing “fossil” fuel usage must eschew using fossil fuels or any energy derived from them.


5 posted on 05/17/2012 5:17:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ScottinVA

I guess they pride themselves on being independent. Maybe the Fed should cut off all assistance to them and let them stand on their own.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 5:17:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lion Den Dan
They're in the syrup business.

Little potential for fracking so the law is no big deal.

Psst....population 626,000.

7 posted on 05/17/2012 5:18:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: thackney

Pure stupidity. First, there is no reason to conduct fracturing in granite.

Vermont is a socialist state who’s enlightened leaders want to lead it boldly into the 19th century.


8 posted on 05/17/2012 5:19:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: thackney

This reminds me of what a previous governor of Ohio did a number of years ago when companies were leaving the North to take advantage of lower costs in the South. The governor said that any company that left OH must pay the state a sum equal to six months wages. After about six months, the governor and his stupid colleagues couldn’t figure out why new business formations in OH were virtually zero. To their credit, they took the “exit tax” off the books. Idiots...


9 posted on 05/17/2012 5:19:30 AM PDT by econjack
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To: cork
No shale plays are known to extend that far.

Vermont has no proved reserves of oil or gas, conventional or non-conventional.

http://www.eia.gov/state/state-energy-profiles-data.cfm?sid=VT

This was a meaningless gesture with no impact other than a media play.

10 posted on 05/17/2012 5:20:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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11 posted on 05/17/2012 5:21:25 AM PDT by Obadiah (2008: Hope & Change -- 2012: Fear & Retribution)
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To: SampleMan
Pure stupidity. First, there is no reason to conduct fracturing in granite.

Actually, there is one good reason. There is no oil or gas plays in Vermont.

12 posted on 05/17/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ScottinVA

I guess they pride themselves on being independent. Maybe the Fed should cut off all assistance to them and let them stand on their own.

According to the Tax Foundation, Vermont’s Federal Allotments vs. Taxes Paid ratio is 1.08.....


13 posted on 05/17/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: thackney

Luddites rule in Vermont.


14 posted on 05/17/2012 5:25:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: thackney

Yeah.

I hear that Florida is going to ban downhill snow skiing.


15 posted on 05/17/2012 5:25:24 AM PDT by kidd
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To: thackney
This is all about liberal feelings and setting themselves up to be morally superior in their own mind.
16 posted on 05/17/2012 5:25:54 AM PDT by Obadiah (2008: Hope & Change -- 2012: Fear & Retribution)
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To: thackney
Vermont has no proved reserves of oil or gas, conventional or non-conventional.
This was a meaningless gesture with no impact other than a media play.

They'll be banning off-shore drilling and off-shore wind farms in their land-locked state next....throw in a moratorium of excessive palm tree cutting, for good measure....

17 posted on 05/17/2012 5:27:22 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: thackney
Vt. becomes 1st state to ban hydraulic fracturing
Let them freeze ... in the dark.
18 posted on 05/17/2012 5:27:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gaffer
let them stand on their own

... with windmills generated by their hot air.

19 posted on 05/17/2012 5:30:08 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Psst....population 626,000. “

...of which 625,900 are flaming libs. I have family throughout VT. Been there dozens of times. Filthy, Birkenstock wearing Marxists. They’ll key your car if you have the wrong sticker. Egg your house if you have the wrong yard sign. I wore a shirt in the Burlington Mall once with “Don’t Tread On Me”. Skinny little bastards looked like they wanted to give me trouble. Would’ve relished the opportunity if presented. Which it wasn’t. Guess they were obeying their “no bullying” laws. BWAHAHAHAHA.


20 posted on 05/17/2012 5:31:21 AM PDT by albie
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To: kidd

Texas plans on banning tapping into pine trees to make syrup.


21 posted on 05/17/2012 5:35:38 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: kidd

Texas plans on banning tapping into pine trees to make syrup.


22 posted on 05/17/2012 5:35:38 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: thackney

Any state that keeps re-electing that Communist Bernie Sanders deserves to be in the dark and cold.

A shining example of the marriage of ignorance and political correctness so prevalent in liberal culture today.


23 posted on 05/17/2012 5:37:30 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: thackney

In other news, Vermont bans removal of glacial ice from any location within its state boundary lines.


24 posted on 05/17/2012 5:37:35 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: kidd
I hear that Florida is going to ban downhill snow skiing.

Yes, you understand it correctly.

BTTT

25 posted on 05/17/2012 5:39:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

“The Democrat, surrounded at a Statehouse ceremony by environmentalists and Twinfield Union School students who pushed for the ban, said the law may help Vermont set an example for other states.”

The question might be, what example is being set?

Stupidity, insanity, radical environmentalism sans proof, democrat principles on display, surely there is much much more.

Being hanged for financial treason, might bring a stop to such anti-American idiocy, and bringing uneducated school children and mindless environmentalists into positions of policy making at the state level, is worth two hangings.


26 posted on 05/17/2012 5:41:43 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
I think Maple Syrup should be banned to protect trees from cruel and unusual punishment.

Awwww....never mind. If you can kill babies in the womb, what's the big deal with sticking a tree with a hollow rod and watching it bleed out.

27 posted on 05/17/2012 5:45:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ScottinVA

It doesn’t matter, there is nothing worthwhile in that state anyway.

By the way, is that one of those states that has large numbers of people BURNING FUEL OIL for heat in the winter, easily the most STUPID and WASTEFUL and POLLUTING use of oil?


28 posted on 05/17/2012 5:49:45 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: thackney

Slant drill from neigboring states....


29 posted on 05/17/2012 5:53:14 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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Slant drill from neigboring states....

They have no oil/gas resources.

Also the record horizontal drilling reach is about 8 miles.

30 posted on 05/17/2012 5:57:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Vermont, where nobody drills for oil/gas and they want to keep it that way.

Vermont, also one of only two states that allow incarcerated felons to vote - the other one is Maine.

31 posted on 05/17/2012 6:00:36 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

“Vermont’s decision is fine with me. However, states that do frac for oil and gas should not ship any fuel to Vermont either.”

You beat me to it! The Vermont posturing is typical of New England. They talk a good environmental game, and fight every sort of energy source there is (fossil files, nuclear, and even wind power), and then get Congress to pass special relief legislation to help their citizens pay for winter fuel bills. They are utter hypocrites.

They favor solar energy, which (of course) is the least suitable for New England, and will not by any stretch warm them in the winter. They can burn wood in the country areas, ignoring the resulting air pollution, which drifts out to sea and across to Europe.

This is more liberal idiocy.


32 posted on 05/17/2012 6:04:54 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Lion Den Dan

“Vermont’s decision is fine with me. However, states that do frac for oil and gas should not ship any fuel to Vermont either.”

You beat me to it! The Vermont posturing is typical of New England. They talk a good environmental game, and fight every sort of energy source there is (fossil files, nuclear, and even wind power), and then get Congress to pass special relief legislation to help their citizens pay for winter fuel bills. They are utter hypocrites.

They favor solar energy, which (of course) is the least suitable for New England, and will not by any stretch warm them in the winter. They can burn wood in the country areas, ignoring the resulting air pollution, which drifts out to sea and across to Europe.

This is more liberal idiocy.


33 posted on 05/17/2012 6:07:04 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: thackney; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Vt. becomes 1st state to ban hydraulic fracturing

Gadzooks! They need lots of fracking up there... 'cause what is evidently in the water up there has made all Vermonters/Vermontites either fracking nuts or fracking communist!

34 posted on 05/17/2012 6:07:10 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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This reminds me of the uber-liberal haven of insanity Takoma Park MD where they years ago voted themselves to be a “nuclear free zone”...when they have none anyway. Also, they allow illegal aliens to vote in their lousy community. Maryland...THE freak state.


35 posted on 05/17/2012 6:22:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: thackney

If there was a cheap pollution free way to turn dirt into oil, someone would want to ban it.


36 posted on 05/17/2012 6:28:59 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: thackney

Pretty funny since frac’ing has been used for water wells for decades. Ooops.


37 posted on 05/17/2012 6:31:43 AM PDT by finnsheep
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Nobody asks what this cost the taxpayers of VT in terms of time, publishing and disseminating this meaningless waste of time law.

Further proof that waste is acceptable to liberals.


38 posted on 05/17/2012 6:58:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: thackney

Let Vermont heat with maple syrup.


39 posted on 05/17/2012 7:21:11 AM PDT by pallis
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Oh well, too bad for them.

Lost jobs, lost tax revenue for them.

More access to fracking equipment for everyone else.

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40 posted on 05/17/2012 8:02:33 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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No losses as they have no oil or gas fields.

As a poster above said, it is like Florida banning downhill snow skiing.


41 posted on 05/17/2012 8:24:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Awwww....never mind. If you can kill babies in the womb, what’s the big deal with sticking a tree with a hollow rod and watching it bleed out.

Neat comparison, kind of like using children and mindless environmentalists as your state government policy committee.


42 posted on 05/17/2012 8:50:24 AM PDT by wita
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To: thackney

Fine. Let the bass turds freeze in the dark.


43 posted on 05/17/2012 9:46:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Bender2

It’s all the refugees from the Peepul’s Republik of Taxachussetts who’ve screwed up Vermont. They flee there because of the taxes and then vote to re-create the very conditions they fled.


44 posted on 05/18/2012 4:56:54 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: econjack

In the 90’s a major supermarket chain wanted to put a distribution warehouse in White River Junction. Vermont said no, it would put too much pressure on their roads. So...it was built in New Hampshire, right across the border and put pressure on Vermont roads. NH gets the revenue, Vermont gets nada.


45 posted on 05/18/2012 5:10:25 AM PDT by bobzeetwin
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