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G.O.P. 'Super PAC' Weighs Hard-Line Attack on Obama (Excellent!)
NY Times ^ | 5/17/2012 | Jeff Zeleny and Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 05/17/2012 6:06:43 AM PDT by NE Cons

WASHINGTON — A group of high-profile Republican strategists is working with a conservative billionaire on a proposal to mount one of the most provocative campaigns of the “super PAC” era and attack President Obama in ways that Republicans have so far shied away

Timed to upend the Democratic National Convention in September, the plan would “do exactly what John McCain would not let us do,” the strategists wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: karlrove; obama; romney; rove; superpac
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Whether you plan to sit this out, of hold your nose and vote... You HAVE to like this.
1 posted on 05/17/2012 6:06:51 AM PDT by NE Cons
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To: NE Cons

the plan would “do exactly what John McCain would not let us do,”
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That’s all I needed to read. Rove, you magnificent B@stard.


2 posted on 05/17/2012 6:08:21 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: NE Cons

Welcome to FR.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 6:11:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: NE Cons

Do you think they’ll be able to withstand the screaches and howls from the left about being “racist” and “uncivil”?


4 posted on 05/17/2012 6:12:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: NE Cons

Why have they been doing this for 4 years? lol


5 posted on 05/17/2012 6:12:36 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NE Cons

Be still, my beating heart. We need to bury Obama and the Democrats in the biggest landslide in history. This will help.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 6:13:11 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks Eric


7 posted on 05/17/2012 6:13:19 AM PDT by NE Cons (Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: Tulane

Yes, talk about Jeremiah Wright, but make it part of a broader look at the racial favoritism of the Obama administration. Talk about Eric Holder and his embrace of Al Sharpton. Talk about the New Black Panthers. Talk about racial preferences for medical schools in Obamacare, and racial preferences in Dodd-Frank. Talk about double standards in “hate crimes” prosecutions.


8 posted on 05/17/2012 6:14:15 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: MrB

We’re being called that anyway. So, why shy away from this


9 posted on 05/17/2012 6:14:46 AM PDT by NE Cons (Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: NE Cons
I didn't click on the link because I don't want to start getting bombarded with homo-erotic spam and pop-ups. Does the happy couple, Jeff Zeleny and Jim Rutenberg, happen to reveal the identities of these "high-profile Republican strategists" or what the nature of their strategy is?

My spidey senses tell me this story is full of Biden.

Forgive me for being suspicious. I just don't trust anything The Times writes.

11 posted on 05/17/2012 6:15:24 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NE Cons

Yes! And a lot more, I hope, but they need to find the leak and plug it, pronto. The termite enemies are everywhere and will use any means to discredit such an attack and any conservative supporters.


12 posted on 05/17/2012 6:16:42 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: NE Cons

I’ll believe it when I see it.


13 posted on 05/17/2012 6:16:56 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: WashingtonSource

Be a good idea to get a likeable trustworthy candidate at the top of the list too. A billionaire who cares can get that done eh.


14 posted on 05/17/2012 6:17:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NE Cons

This may be walking through a mine field. Wright is old news, and takes the focus off of Obama’s record while in office. The American voter needs to be reminded of that fact over and over. They have already elected Obama in 2008, that is when this should have been used. Bringing it up now looks like sour grapes. I agree it is what defines who Obama is but like I said he is in office, has been for 3 1/2 years you can not redo 2008.


15 posted on 05/17/2012 6:17:39 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: reaganaut1

Talk about his racism,

and also define terms - what is “social justice”?
How does 0bama see it implemented? And what will America look like if it is implemented?


16 posted on 05/17/2012 6:18:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: WILLIALAL

Many Americans have NO idea this stuff is out there. It’s not preaching to the choir. It’s getting the word out, informing the (mostly ignorant) masses


17 posted on 05/17/2012 6:19:12 AM PDT by NE Cons (Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: NE Cons

the truly alarming part is that these nimrods believe they have to “weigh” whether or not they want to win....


18 posted on 05/17/2012 6:20:38 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: NE Cons

YES!

I want to see the GOP fight like they mean it!

The NY Times is trying to scare the This PAC into backing off. Notice how the article suggests any discussion of Wright and Obama’s relationship and black liberation theology is racist. Also, notice the ad plan was leaked to the NY Times by a “concerned person”.

[The document makes clear that the effort is only in the planning stages and awaiting full approval from Mr. Ricketts. People involved in the planning said the publicity now certain to surround it could send the strategists back to the drawing board.]


19 posted on 05/17/2012 6:21:53 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: WILLIALAL

You ar right. The only time Wright should be used is in a direct link to Obama’s record.


20 posted on 05/17/2012 6:26:52 AM PDT by csmusaret (Obama's new slogan: "Fo Mo Mo Fo.")
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To: NE Cons

“Many Americans have NO idea this stuff is out there”

But you are going to face a maelstrom from the press about racism. That will then become the issue which will distract from Romney’s message. So the debate will be whether Romney is racist or not. Is that what we want the focus to be on. The election is only 8 weeks long after the conventions, so do you want to throw away that time refuting allegations of racism or attack Obama on his record?
Someone on here made the good point that Americans are looking for normalcy that is what Romney needs to portray not a personal attack on Obama’s past. There is plenty to cover in 8 weeks without Wright.


21 posted on 05/17/2012 6:32:26 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: NE Cons
While the Wright tie-in is one approach, the killer issue is the economy and the debt he's run up. Also, my liberal twin gave me a copy of Rules for Radicals for Christmas, written by Saul Alinsky decades ago. If you read that book, you will see that Obozo is walking right down the chapter outline of what Alinsky proposed all those years ago. The GOP should make political hay out of that, too, as I still believe the majority in this country are not in favor of what Alinsky sees as a future.
22 posted on 05/17/2012 6:34:01 AM PDT by econjack
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To: NE Cons
Whether you plan to sit this out, of hold your nose and vote...

Those won't be the only choices.

23 posted on 05/17/2012 6:36:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: WILLIALAL
...you are going to face a maelstrom from the press about racism.

Oh, Bull$hi*. The race card is a dead issue to anyone who still has a neuron firing somewhere in their head. Gees, think about it: 1) he's already been elected, and 2) he's only half-black. If the GOP isn't smart enough to deflect this crap from the MSM, it's time for a new party...one that reflects the "kick-'em-in'the-stones" attitude that's necessary to play the Dem's own game. I've just about had it with the GOP's "play nice" attitude.

24 posted on 05/17/2012 6:39:23 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

“Oh, Bull$hi*. The race card is a dead issue to anyone who still has a neuron firing somewhere in their head. “

Go ahead and play into the dems plan. They would love nothing more than to see the Romney campaign go down this road. God there is so much to throw against Obama from his record. Great campaigns out there based upon his record.
That is what Americans need to be reminded of, he has spent 3 1/2 years fighting for Obama Care, stimulus, green energy, the list goes on and on, instead of focusing upon the economy. Why waste time on Wright.


25 posted on 05/17/2012 6:44:59 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: NE Cons

I nonimate Sarah, Todd and Bristol Palin to spearhead the nationwide effort.


26 posted on 05/17/2012 6:46:56 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: WILLIALAL
You are hitting the nail on the head!! Nobody likes to think they have been made a fool by another, so taking OBambi's words frm his speeeches before he was elected about raising costs to coal, raising gas prices, favoring college over blue collar and getting the middle class working is all that is needed to be said about the "ONE." Voters know they have been swindled, now they need to be reminded that he did not bring the country togeather but broke his promise.

Another good way to show his failures is to list commisssions like Simpson Bowles and ask, "He appointed these people what did he do with their advice?"

27 posted on 05/17/2012 6:55:38 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: KansasGirl

It is racist for the NYT ro call it racist.


28 posted on 05/17/2012 7:16:26 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be.)
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To: NE Cons

Goody goody gumdrops.

AND

It’s about (BLEEPING) time, too!!!!!


29 posted on 05/17/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: NE Cons

Good news...EVICT THE OBAMANATION


30 posted on 05/17/2012 7:22:33 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Flintlock

Oh the NYT moaning about mean spirited GOP attack ads.

Cry me a river..


31 posted on 05/17/2012 7:23:10 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: WILLIALAL
Hell, conservatives face a maelstrom from the press about racism if they so much as wish blacks a nice daym for it is a racist double entendre. Every one knows oppressed blacks never have a nice day in racist America.
32 posted on 05/17/2012 7:26:29 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be.)
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To: NE Cons

I like this a lot. Of course, the lamestream media will use it as “proof” that the GOP is “racist”. Also, I love how the lamestreams never give us an inside picture of the scorched earth policies of Barry and his pals. They are so in the tank for him it’s beyond pathetic.


33 posted on 05/17/2012 7:28:43 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: NE Cons

I like this a lot. Of course, the lamestream media will use it as “proof” that the GOP is “racist”. Also, I love how the lamestreams never give us an inside picture of the scorched earth policies of Barry and his pals. They are so in the tank for him it’s beyond pathetic.


34 posted on 05/17/2012 7:29:00 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: Sea Parrot

“Hell, conservatives face a maelstrom from the press “

I know, and they just can’t wait until something like this comes up so they can put forth their template of what they want to portray Republicans as: Racists. My question is why give them that opportunity?
Make them face up to Obama’s record. Its so easy.
There is a boat load of great material out there. Just show people out of work, the jobs lost, and Obama saying over and over how he is focused like a laser on the economy and jobs, that never appear. 5 trillion spent for what result? Show him playing golf, cozying up to Hollywood, Nobel Peace prize, its all there for the taking. We don’t need to let others determine the headlines, make your own.


35 posted on 05/17/2012 7:42:06 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: NE Cons

Where’s the document that Zeleny said was “obtained by The New York Times through a person not connected to the proposal who was alarmed by its tone?”


36 posted on 05/17/2012 7:46:39 AM PDT by FreedomFighter1013 (Obama: Poseur-in-Chief)
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To: q_an_a

“Another good way to show his failures is to list commisssions like Simpson Bowles and ask, “He appointed these people what did he do with their advice?” “

Exactly, at the same time show the national debt clock racing forward as he keeps talking about balancing the budget. Show millions of stimulus dollars spent on green energy projects that create a handful of jobs. Just run a scrolling list of the boondoggles he spent billions on that went nowhere. Hit hard the fact that there are less people working now then when he took office.


37 posted on 05/17/2012 7:47:16 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL

it is possible to run “broken promises” and “losing the faith/trust” advertising till the cows come home. always with a PS - Sarah was right!!


38 posted on 05/17/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: NE Cons

Those spineless butt sore bass turds who call themselves Republicans can’t even big itch slap Barney Frank!. There is only two Republicans in my lifetime who had Democrats running for cover; Ronald Reagan and Sarah Palin! McCain lost the last Presidental elections because he had his pants below his knees and one hand on his ankle and the other hand trying to cover Sarah’s mouth. When I hear an actual attack ad that defends my conservative core values, then I will have something to get excited about.


39 posted on 05/17/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by avant_garde
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To: NE Cons

Sorry, too late. The kenyan doesn’t care now about this stuff now. Anything that takes the focus off the economy and his performance as POTUS is fine with him. I don’t think it’s an accident that we suddenly now have his (white) ex-girlfriend appear. The dims WANT this stuff dredged up now because it is a distraction.

The obamacare secret deal with Big Pharma is much more promising for the GOP. I want to hear more about that.


40 posted on 05/17/2012 8:13:02 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: NE Cons

Im not a huge Romney fan - but if Im advising his campaign, Id be screaming to disavow and condemn any discussions of Reverend Wright and Obama’s Islamic background - hear me out - because the left has tried the Race card with Trayvon, and failed, The Women card with contraception, and failed, the Hispanic card with Sherrif Joe, and failed, and the gay card, and failed - all as an attempt to throw tar babies that distract from discussions of Obamas failures that effect all classes of people. Blacks are walking away from him, hispanics are, stay at home moms are, and everyone who believes in heterosexual marriage are. The Catholics and Jews are. BUT - if Romney doesnt come out and say discussion of Wright and Obama’s Muslimhood is off-limits, he opens the door for the other side to have a detailed discussion of Mormanism - which spells trouble in the Bible belt (Republican Country) and would succeed where the other attempts have failed. A detailed conversation about the three levels of heaven, inheriting a planet to populate as Adam did, Joseph Smith’s origins, The book of Moroni (the egyptian book of the dead), people living on the sun, etc etc - would be DISASTEROUS. Different religions being in the Oval is one thing, and the American people have evolved enought to where they weren’t morally opposed to non-Christian (Lieberman) in the White House - but an expose on the roots of LDS would make it look more like a devout Scientologist in the White House - bad, bad, bad.

If Im advising the financier of the efforts, Id say the same - and if it MUST be discussed, break the issues out into separate ads - so that Romney can condemn the Wright piece and endorse the MASSIVE amount of information that doesnt discuss the Chicago Church or BHOs Islamic roots.


41 posted on 05/17/2012 8:14:12 AM PDT by angrymarine (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself.)
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To: WILLIALAL

Sorry disagree, this was never fully exposed so it is almost new info


42 posted on 05/17/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: WILLIALAL

“That will then become the issue which will distract from Romney’s message.”

Romney doesn’t have a message anyone conservative wants to hear.

The only way for him to win is to tell the truth and destroy Obama. IMHO


43 posted on 05/17/2012 8:22:40 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: italianquaker

“Sorry disagree, this was never fully exposed so it is almost new info”

It’s too difficult for dim bulb moderates educated in public schools to process the fact we have marxist muslim kenyan in the White House.

OTOH, It is really easy for them to understand what it means when Bathhouse Barry says he is in favor of two men being allowed to marry. Anybody, especially married women, who values the institution of marriage will be revolted by that idea.


44 posted on 05/17/2012 8:28:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: angrymarine

I think you raise a very good point. And why go into all this? Wright is old news. There is NO MUCH in Obama’s record to be hung around his neck, why detract from it?


45 posted on 05/17/2012 8:29:15 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: In Maryland
Sorry ... typo.

There is SOOO MUCH in Obama's record to be hung around his neck, why distract from it?

46 posted on 05/17/2012 8:32:23 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: NE Cons

Obama, his wife Michelle, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the Democrat Party are all enemies of the state *USA)!!! I say Attack, Attack, Attack!!! Pubbies destroy Obama politically, or he and his evil minions will destroy the USA. Wake up, Romney weak sisters!!!


47 posted on 05/17/2012 8:46:48 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: MrB

Conservative groups and the GOP should realize that no matter what they do in this campaign, they will be called “racist” and “uncivil”, so they may as well do the direct assault to try to win rather than play nice and lose like McCain did in ‘08.


48 posted on 05/17/2012 8:47:56 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: In Maryland

“And why go into all this? Wright is old news. There is NO MUCH in Obama’s record to be hung around his neck, why detract from it?”

This is the key point! Why fall for a distraction? I understand the deep feelings about Obama’s past, pisses me off too, but I want him out of office.
Harp on Wright, and Obama’s past, and you are projecting the message that you don’t have anything new to give to the American public. You are just trying to win by demonizing your opponent.
Stay on message, project better economic times ahead. A majority of Americans are ready to move beyond Obama, lets give them that chance with a new hope for our country


49 posted on 05/17/2012 8:49:57 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL

Obama skips debt commission meeting (Dec. 2010)
WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Obama did not attend a White House meeting Thursday with members of his own debt commission, irking some of the Democrats on the panel who were expecting a high-level push from the commander-in-chief to show that its comprehensive deficit reduction plan is being taken seriously by the White House.
“He should have at least dropped by,” one Democratic member of the debt commission told CNN, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he wanted to speak more freely about the panel’s private meeting.
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/09/obama-skips-debt-commission-meeting/

yeah, he cares.


50 posted on 05/17/2012 9:00:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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