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Report: Romney, RNC to build 'shadow state party' in Nevada
The Hill ^ | May 17, 2012 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 05/17/2012 9:59:20 AM PDT by Gennie

Mitt Romney and the Republican National Committee (RNC) will erect their own Nevada state operation to supercede Nevada's dysfunctional state Republican apparatus, according to a report from the Las Vegas Sun's Jon Ralston.

The Nevada Republican Party has long been a mess, and Ron Paul backers who have a questionable commitment to electing Romney recently took control of most of the party structure. Last week, the Clark County Republican Party, which covers two thirds of the state's population, called for RNC chairman Reince Priebus to resign.

In response, Romney and the RNC will build out their own ground game in the state to run the get-out-the-vote and voter-contact operations the state party usually handles.

"Essentially, we're setting up a shadow state party," a GOP insider told Ralston.

RNC spokesman Kirsten Kukowski told The Hill that the RNC hasn't "made a decision and continue to work with the Nevada GOP," while Nevada Republican Chairman Michael McDonald told Ralston he planned to work with Priebus to "build a top-notch ground game to beat Barack Obama and elect Mitt Romney to the White House."

Nevada's messy Republican Party has been the biggest structural concern for the RNC and Romney. It will be interesting to see if they make any similar moves in Iowa, where Paul supporters also control the state party but have been less antagonistic toward the RNC.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nevada; rnc; romney; shadowstateparty

1 posted on 05/17/2012 9:59:28 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: Gennie

That’s “supersede,” with an s!


2 posted on 05/17/2012 10:08:13 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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To: Gennie

—as a registered Repub in Nye County, when the morally challenged McDonald got his position,I almost went cap-”L” libertarian and may still-—


3 posted on 05/17/2012 10:17:30 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Gennie

if ron paul was a democrat

how would he (or his supporters) act any differently?


4 posted on 05/17/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Gennie

Another thing I will hand to Romney, he is well organized and smart.

I had to credit him for this when he was one of the two candidates who made it on the Virginia ballot, and there was another state, too, where I remember Santorum and Gingrich etc. had not managed to do their paperwork.

He gets it done, and I appreciate that in a leader. I just hope he gets the RIGHT things done; I know that is the question.


5 posted on 05/17/2012 10:35:10 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Gennie

It’s about time. I live in N Nevada, in Lyon County.

To call the Republican apparatus in Nevada MESSY is a total understatement.

We need some serious leadership here.

Republican Caucuses were open for only a matter of nimutes in many locations & then closed without explanation.

When persons called for the hours of the caucus, they were told things like: 9 AM to 1 PM. Some people went in about 11 AM only to find that all the doors were locked. Whomever had showed up at 9 AM discussed & voted what they wished & the site was shut down.

I don’t call that a “causus”. I call that a railroading of voters.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 10:41:23 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Gennie

It’s about time. I live in N Nevada, in Lyon County.

To call the Republican apparatus in Nevada MESSY is a total understatement.

We need some serious leadership here.

Republican Caucuses were open for only a matter of nimutes in many locations & then closed without explanation.

When persons called for the hours of the caucus, they were told things like: 9 AM to 1 PM. Some people went in about 11 AM only to find that all the doors were locked. Whomever had showed up at 9 AM discussed & voted what they wished & the site was shut down.

I don’t call that a “caucus”. I call that a railroading of voters.


7 posted on 05/17/2012 10:42:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Persevero

“He gets it done”

Yes, he has someone working for him with good clerical skills. That is a plus.
However, can anyone show me any evidence of anything he has accomplished..I mean that I would consider a worthy accomplishment?
Other than he “saved” the Olypics” which BTW even a liberal could have accomplished.
Oh wait..I temporarily forgot he is/was/mostly once was/might not be/? a liberal.


8 posted on 05/17/2012 10:55:15 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Leep

Romney created STAPLES. Saved it from bankruptcy.


9 posted on 05/17/2012 11:02:40 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Gennie

I don’t think the onerous Romney is going to have much luck in doing this. No matter what the Paul people have been doing, this will come across as “carpetbaggers” coming in from out of state to get the results they want, indifferent to the state itself.

They should have seen this problem months ago and done something about it then. As it is, it will be seen as another indicator of how the onerous Romney would run the federal government. And of how generally unprepared he is.

That is, if the onerous Romney is trying to force national compliance of something he wants, and a state resists, he will use federal power to force them to do what he wants.

Think “Romneycare”. “It’s not like Obamacare. It’s better! Because it’s socialized medicine that works! And I’m not going to let some “dysfunctional” state stand in the way of ‘affordable health care’(tm) for all Americans!”


10 posted on 05/17/2012 11:09:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Leep

“He gets it done”....Ha! Romeny’s been running for Preident for 8 yrs. He darn well better have feet on the gound after that long on the trail...not to mention his Mormon ducks in a row to see that it’s carried out as he wants.

Any other candidate having 8 yrs. to do nothing but run a campaing and get it moving accordingly could have done likewise. Additionally do not forget that in 08’ he was promised his turn would be next. Quoting Anne Romney...” It’s our turn.”


11 posted on 05/17/2012 11:25:02 AM PDT by caww
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To: Persevero

While you are praising his brilliance and effectiveness during his 20 years of seeking office always breaking spending records.

Remember that he has only won a single election and he didn’t reach 50% in that election, and left office with 34% approval, both McCain and Huckabee beat him in 2008 although they had no money or people.

I read his 20 year campaigning record as less than brilliant and inspiring.


12 posted on 05/17/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Maryhere

I think Obama shopped at a STAPLES...or maybe he protested in front of one once..?
Obama almost makes Romney look good.
Then again, Obama makes a McDonald worker look good.


13 posted on 05/17/2012 12:09:35 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: ansel12; Leep

“While you are praising his brilliance and effectiveness during his 20 years of seeking office always breaking spending records.”

I think you both mistake my willingness to acknowledge his good administrative skills with some sort of jolly endorsement.

We can acknowledge the positive without dismissing the negative, can’t we?


14 posted on 05/17/2012 12:35:42 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

I thought that I was posting a disagreement with your claims of his positive skills in running and organizing a political campaign.

As post 12 shows in regard to his administrating, his 20 year record says that he sucks at it.

He was a Governor for crying out loud, a lousy one, incompetent, as his campaigns have been, with all the money, media, establishment, foot soldiers, paid consultants, he couldn’t beat the 2008 field of losers, and in his second try, he barely beat the worse campaigners of his 2012 challengers.


15 posted on 05/17/2012 12:59:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Gennie

Nevada is just practice. If Romney gets elected, he’ll reorganize the national Republican Party so that conservatives have no voice.


16 posted on 05/17/2012 2:14:57 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Gennie

Maybe he will come in and do the same for my sorry State of Illinois. Judy Barr Topinka, her ilk as well as her ciggy butts have got to go! I’ll never forget their bumbling in 2004 allowing 0 to win! Jack Ryan?!? We suck in Illinois!


17 posted on 05/17/2012 2:53:56 PM PDT by italyconservative (I'll be holding my nose this November :-( Anyone but 0!)
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To: Gennie

When do you suppose he’ll get it all over with and just start calling himself a Democrat?


18 posted on 05/17/2012 6:34:10 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Maryhere

The Latter Day Saints have a major purchasing agreement with Staples.


19 posted on 05/17/2012 9:23:34 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Ted Cruz Texas' true conservative)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
this will come across as “carpetbaggers” coming in from out of state to get the results they want, indifferent to the state itself.

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Wondering what percentage of Nevadans, moved there from somewhere else?

My impression is, a lot... meaning there's ironically even a "carpetbagger vote" there.

20 posted on 05/17/2012 9:34:57 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Gennie; All

IMHO, we’ve been given a wonderful gift. A chance to see the future.

Actual real people who are registered as Republicans in complete insurrection from the party hacks. A pack of hounds running around with no leader.

The RNC has to admit defeat, essentially, and come in and start a new party ??????

By doing this they have tacitly admitted that they could not restore their local party to get in line with their guy.

Methinks people are festerin’. Mad. I know I am.

The RNC forgets that it’s real simple: I’m a real American, been here forever, ain’t leavin’. I’m Christian, that’s not changin’. I know that morals is where everything starts - morals are one’s foundation.

I can’t trust them any more to protect what is right.

They make deals. They bargain away essential freedoms; they bargain away morals; they sell the truth for a few pieces of silver.

Dastardly words and deeds.

I just can’t vote for that, any more than I can vote for overt enemies of the Republic, otherwise known as Democrats, who also sell our nation and our liberty for a few pieces of silver.


21 posted on 05/17/2012 11:35:59 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: writer33; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ...

This is rather disturbing. At the same time, I’ve previously read that the Nevada GOP is a shambles and prior election results appear to bear this out.


22 posted on 05/18/2012 4:57:03 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: CommerceComet; Clintonfatigued; Tribune7
Nevada is just practice. If Romney gets elected, he’ll reorganize the national Republican Party so that conservatives have no voice.

I just don't get your comment. The ad nauseum drumbeat on FR is that the Republican establishment needs to be challenged and dispatched. So the Tea Party rises up and shakes things up from the ground up, but then when someone like Romney works to shake things up from the top down, he gets a bunch of BS.

Either there is a crapload of trolls around here or else there is a crapload of people who will never be happy.

The drum beat is getting very tiresome and is the reason why a lot of people have just given up on FR and gone elsewhere. Maybe it's the goal of the constant complainers to get rid of people who see possibilities and potential so FR can become one giant juvenile pity party.

23 posted on 05/18/2012 6:06:07 AM PDT by randita
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m thinking probably not. While the vast majority of Nevada’s income comes from gaming, technically “tourism gaming”, there is no love for the gamblers, only their money.

(A friend noted that in such gambling areas, you will never see a “genuine smile”, a very interesting cultural observation to say the least, though way too complex to try to explain. Very deep meanings.)

However, the mood on the street is probably close to hostility, since so many of the tourists come to Nevada not to give something to the state, or even just neutrally have fun, but to take from others, in what is effectively a less than honorable way. It is a predator-prey place.

So what is the mood to “carpetbaggers?” Though many people came to Nevada and set down roots there, they actually contribute, so are soon no longer outsiders. Most of the post-WWII western cities are like that.

But “carpetbaggers”, like the original carpetbaggers, have no love for the place or its people, and just want to use them for their own advantage and profit before leaving. The modern term “transients” is perhaps a better one.

In Nevada, they are always on the lookout for casino cheats, con artists, thieves and robbers looking to prey on the gamblers, gamblers who spend more than they have, as well as the usual assortments of criminal scum.

So enter Romney and the RNC. Like it or not, the Paulites have manipulated the system in Nevada to their advantage, and the Romney people and the RNC don’t like that, because they want those delegates anyway, even if they don’t want to get them the right way.

This sounds like something all too common in Nevada, and not something they like. So it will be interesting to watch and see what happens.


24 posted on 05/18/2012 6:20:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: randita
So the Tea Party rises up and shakes things up from the ground up, but then when someone like Romney works to shake things up from the top down, he gets a bunch of BS.

The Tea Party is working to fix the problem, Romney will institutionalize the problem. Romney is part of the establishment and he's lloking to fulfill his father's dream of silencing the Goldwater and Reagan conservatives.

You mean fix things like Romney's people and his allies in the Virginia Republican Party did to freeze out any viable competition?

I'm committed to opposing liberalism in all its forms whether in our party or outside of it? Are you?

25 posted on 05/18/2012 8:53:56 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet
he's lloking

Of couse, I mean he's looking. Too fast with the send button.

26 posted on 05/18/2012 8:55:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet

I’m sure as heck not going to whine about what Romney may or may not do. He’s not a stupid man and he knows he will need Tea Party support to get anything done. I vehemently disagree with your take on his goals.

I will save my negativism for what I know will happen to this country should Obama win a second term. And if people like you sit aside and let it happen, I will be among the first to call you out on your hypocrisy if you complain about anything Obama does in his second term.


27 posted on 05/18/2012 1:17:15 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita
He’s not a stupid man and he knows he will need Tea Party support to get anything done.

It is just as likely that Romney will use Tea Party opposition to strength his support in the center-left coalition. The best way to prove that he isn't a "radical right-winger" and maintain support among independents is to publicly pick a fight with the Tea Party. Since his political stances throughout his career have been center-left, he has a natural constituency there. Romney might need some support from the Tea Party types to get elected but he doesn't need them to govern.

I vehemently disagree with your take on his goals.

Just look at his record. Actions speak much louder than words. If you vote for him, fine. Do want you think is best but do it with eyes open.

And if people like you sit aside and let it happen, I will be among the first to call you out on your hypocrisy if you complain about anything Obama does in his second term.

Whatever. I'll be doing my part by putting Tea Party people in place. Don't get too worried about my vote - I'm in a solid red state where Romney would have a hard time losing (which is good for him because he won't get my vote).

If Romney wins and turns out to be the dud that his record suggests, then I assume you'd be okay with me calling you out for voting for him. Turnabout is fair play, right? I'm curious about something. You're upset because we criticize Romney the candidate. Will you be upset if we criticize Romney the President too because that will be supporting the 2016 Democrat candidate? Will you be opposed to a Tea Party candidate running in 2016 because a divided Republican Party would only assure Romney's defeat and the election of the Democrat nominee (who we will be assured by Romney supporters will be a lot worse than Romney and therefore we can't gamble with voting our conscience)?

28 posted on 05/18/2012 4:34:29 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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Click the link.
The Republic you save may be your own.


29 posted on 05/18/2012 5:11:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: CommerceComet

A “electable” Tea Party candidate would be my first choice. There wasn’t one running this year.

Second choice is ABO (anybody but Obama). The stakes are too high.

Romney will deserve any and all the criticism he gets if he betrays conservative principles, but I’m willing to give him a chance and not pre-judge.

The Tea Party movement will be doomed if it attempts to become a top down political party, so your point about a candidate in 2016 is moot. It is most effective working within the existing two major parties as a grass roots movement of like-minded people. In its short history, it has had a MAJOR impact in local, state, and national elections in its current form.


30 posted on 05/18/2012 5:42:29 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita
I don't want Obama, either but I'm not voting for one turd because it smells a little less than another one. I'm not a purist - I voted without enthusiasm for McCain in 2008. I can't vote for Romney. At least at one time, McCain was a loyal soldier in the Reagan Revolution, while Romney was at best neutral and if his words can be believed, he was opposed to Reagan.

The Tea Party movement will be doomed if it attempts to become a top down political party, so your point about a candidate in 2016 is moot.

I don't think so - I was talking about a primary challenger to Romney in 2016, not a third-party general election run. Any such challenger will be criticized by the Romney administration or the GOP-e as just helping the Democrat in the general election by undermining the GOP incumbent. Kennedy's 1980 challenge to Carter and Buchanan's challenge of Bush in 1992 will cited as "proof."

31 posted on 05/18/2012 7:46:42 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet

If Romney wins in 2012, (which is not a given especially since there are a lot of purists who would rather have no pie at all rather than not having 100% of it), then why not a Tea Party challenger in 2016 IF Romney is not carrying through on conservative principles. It would keep the heat on him to stay to the right.

I have heard people of the ilk of Larry Kudlow, whom I like and respect a lot, say that Romney has the potential to be another Ronald Reagan. Kudlow’s been on the political and economic scene forever and has known Romney a long time. His opinion should bear some weight.

Dubya made an enormous contribution toward the conservative cause by appointing two OUTSTANDING SCOTUS justices. If elected, Romney will have the opportunity to chart the direction of the SCOTUS for decades to come. That’s something that’s little mentioned or considered and it’s extremely important.


32 posted on 05/18/2012 8:01:16 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

I vote crapload of people who will never be happy.


33 posted on 05/19/2012 5:26:08 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; randita; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

This appears to be about winning the state despite a weak state party organization.

Sounds like the state party has been made even worse by the take over Ron Paul people. A lot of state parties are being taken over by Paulites. They damn well better not be incompetent losers who fail to get Republicans elected.

Grand design to have Rand oppose Romney in 2016?


34 posted on 05/20/2012 4:41:37 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; randita; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

“This appears to be about winning the state despite a weak state party organization.”

I agree.

“Grand design to have Rand oppose Romney in 2016?”

I think it’s to have Rand as VP in 2012.


35 posted on 05/20/2012 4:50:52 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Samurai_Jack
if ron paul was a democrat

how would he (or his supporters) act any differently?

Because mitt romney IS a democrat

why would you expect he or his supporters to act any differently.

36 posted on 05/20/2012 4:55:18 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: Impy

Well, if Rand Paul runs for president in 2016, he will lose in the primaries and won’t be able to run for reelection in KY, which hopefully will put an end to the Paulistinian attempts at highjacking the Republican Party. I know that Rand hasn’t espoused any of his father’s kookier views, but I figure it’s only a matter of time before he comes out in favor of shutting down all U.S. military bases abroad and legalizing heroin and letting Iran get the nuclear bomb and ending our support of our ally Israel and legalizing same-sex marriage.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 6:45:24 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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