Posted on 05/17/2012 8:14:15 PM PDT by RightFighter
A treasure trove of evidence was released today in the Zimmerman case. Please make special note of the embroidery on the back of Zimmerman's sweatshirt. Love it!
Two things I noticed from the store video:
Martin tries to buy cigarettes and is refused by the clerk (see the clerk gesture to the cartons of cigarettes up behind the counter and how he shakes his head No).
The clerk engages in self-grooming gestures (scratches the side of his head) after Martin gives him the money and then again as Martin is leaving the store. The clerk also does some stretching exercises as he watches Martin exit. The clerk’s body language shows nervousness.
Not to mention a lawsuit against NBC for the ‘ooops edit’ of the 911 tape.
My computer is too slow; just shows choppy images every 5-10 seconds.
Question on the PF9. When the slide is back like that, does the guide rod raise up like that? That seems strange to me.
S&B, I read soemwhere.
“Getting out of one’s car is not a crime. Either is following someone in public. Using a “but for” analysis, why didn’t the officer conclude that had Trayvon not smacked Zimmerman, he would still be alive? That appears to be a far more immediate cause of the shooting than Zimmerman’s getting out of his car.
It’s also an unsupportable theory for criminal liability. How far back do you go? One could say if Zimmerman stayed home that night and didn’t go to the store, Trayvon would be alive. Or if Trayvon had stayed home and not gone to 7-11 that night, he would still be alive. But for a hundred things, Trayvon would be alive. (If only an airline passenger had taken a different plane, he wouldn’t have gone down with the flight. If only a person took a different route to the store, or left home 10 minutes later, he could have avoided a fatal car accident and would still be alive.) They are all true, but they are not a basis for charging a crime.”
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/5/17/221353/149
"Intermediate" is a term of art for these purposes as used by forensic examiners. One can see from the autopsy diagram that the stippling pattern from the gunshot residue was of 2" diameter, so I don't expect there to be a serious issue as to the distance at which the gun was fired.
Was it raining inside the convenience store? The clerk seemed nervous. He left the area of the cash register when Teevon didn’t leave, after making his purchase. Teevon then walked back down the aisle, to pick something off the floor, then left.
OK. I’m no gun expert, but that is the oddest looking gun I have seen. It’s like the front part of the barrel is missing, and bent.
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This gun, the Kel-Tek PF9 is my everyday carry weapon.
The condition of the gun you saw was what it looks like when the slide is pulled back without the magazine in the gun or it is empty. In this condition the slide locks back and the barrel is not bent but is lifted up. The gun is a breeze to clean because of how easy it is to disassemble.
Most people that carry the PF9 usually load with hollow points when Concealed carrying. The advantage of the hollow point is that it will not usually exit the person it hits. It will expand and slow way down. It will do a lot of damage and hurt real bad in the process. A non hollow point will just cleanly go through a person and let them live at least few minutes before bleeding to death. Had the hollow point of Zimmermans gun not been a heart shot Martin could have lived through it but the expanding bullet took out his left ventricle, he would have croaked pretty quickly. It would go dim in a matter of several seconds. The brain would not get any blood. Lights would go out about as quickly as being beheaded.
What I noticed from the video of Trayvon Martin in the store was that the guy was higher than a kite. I don’t know how much “trace” amounts are but Martin was loaded or drunk one. Martin wasn’t being followed because he was black, he was being followed because he was acting like he was high. This store video is most damming piece of evidence against the prosecutors case. It shows that Zimmerman had a very good reason to follow Martin, it had nothing to do with race, the FBI will not be able to show a hate crime because if somebody is acting crazy that is a good reason to watch them.
Zimmerman has been so terribly treated, for no good reason.
Smoking dope got Martin killed. Suicide by Mary Jane.
Here is the complete discovery document. I found something very interesting that totally works in Zimmerman's favor. Starting on page 106 of the document below (it says "Page 3 of 6" at the bottom of the page), there is a discussion of a piece of evidence referred to as "Exhibit ME-8 Shirt represented as being from Trayvon Benjamin Martin."
This shirt was tested for blood, and failed to give chemical indications for blood. HOWEVER, a DNA analysis was done on four different stains on the shirt, as well as on swabbings from the lower sleeves of the shirt. The conclusion?
"Exhibit ME-8 Stain A - A complete DNA profile was obtained from exhibit ME-8 Stain A. This DNA profile is consistent with originating from a male individual and matches the DNA profile from George Michael Zimmerman (JR-2)."
"Exhibit ME-8 Stain D - The mixed DNA profile obtained from Exhibit ME-8 Stain D demonstrated the presence of at least two individuals...George Michael Zimmerman and Trayvon Benjamin Martin are included as possible contributors..."
In addition, there was a mixed DNA profile on Trayvon's left cuff/lower left sleeve, but that could not be conclusively tied to Zimmerman. In fact, if you continue reading, you'll find that there were also stains on Zimmerman's shirt that contained Martin's DNA (page 113 or so).
It seems the only evidence the prosecution has is several people who knew GZ and didn’t like him.
Zimmerman has been reported as saying that he was trying to get out his cell phone when Trayvon caught sight of his gun and tried to grab it. If Trayvon had not done that, probably Zimmerman wouldn’t have used the gun at all.
Defense will say Z swabbed his face with Trayvon’s shirt.
No bruises on Martin except for his knuckles. He was not beaten and shot.
It looked like he went toward the back of the store to pick something up from the floor. But yes, it did take him an unusually long time to count out his money.
Did he put something in his mouth toward the end there?
I assume the slug was removed during autopsy, I’d be interested in a picture of that also..............strictly from a terminal ballistics standpoint.
With the apparent facts that are emerging - I would say Zimmerman should move for a bench trial. Faster, cheaper, and avoids the uncertainty of a jury and all of the $hit that will be ginned up in jury selection.
Where did you see this video ? I can not find it.
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