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Vallejo Family Demands Answers After Police Officer Kills Dog
CBSlocal ^ | 5/17/12

Posted on 05/17/2012 10:50:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker


A Vallejo police officer shot and killed Belle when he
felt threatened during a routine house visit on May 16, 2012

VALLEJO (CBS SF) - A Vallejo family demands answers after a police officer shot and killed one of their dogs when he came to their house Wednesday to investigate an identity theft.

Officer Chase Calhoun went to the family’s home near the corner of Kentucky and Trinity streets around noon Wednesday to take a statement. According to Vallejo Police, he heard two dogs growl, then saw them charge, as he opened the front gate of the home.

Calhoun fired two rounds, instantly killing an 11-year-old Labrador mix named Belle. The other dog, a 14-year-old Australian shepherd mix named Flicka, was unharmed.

The dogs’ owner, Loren Mollner, said his wife, Erika Gregory, was at home with their son and daughter at the time, and was told police do not visit homes to take reports of identity theft.

“They said, we don’t come out. We don’t investigate identity theft. We only investigate murders and car thefts. Next thing she knows, she hears shots. She hits the floor,” Mollner said.

Mollner said his wife assumed there was some kind of shootout happening, only to emerge from the home and find her dog lying in a pool of blood and a police officer at the street repeating, “I’m sorry.”

“He said he was scared,” Mollner said, and shot the dog because he felt threatened.

Police said the officer tried to back up, but because the dogs were aggressive he was forced to fire two rounds at the closest animal.

Mollner said his dogs do bark at strangers, but have never attacked anyone, and have been friendly to package deliverers and other visitors. He said his wife would have kept the dogs indoors if she had known a police officer was on his way.

“These are not dangerous dogs,” he said, adding they were rescue dogs from the Milo Foundation they had adopted about 10 years ago.

Mollner said is not interested in pursuing litigation against the police department, and would rather have the officer deliver a more formal apology to the family.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cop; cops; dog; donutwatch; leo; petshooting; police; shoot; vallejo
I don't know about you, but I'm getting really ticked off at the large number of dogs police officers and firemen around the country kill every day... Oh... Wait... It's only the cops who encounter all these vicious dogs while on the job and who have no recourse but to kill the animals. Riiiiiiiight.
1 posted on 05/17/2012 10:50:24 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

How do post-people do their jobs every day without guns?

Reduce the life threatening dog on post-people attacks!
Issue guns to all post-people immediately!!

Also plumbers, electricians, and handy-opeople!!

And milk-people!!

And Fuller Brush salespeople!!!!


2 posted on 05/17/2012 10:56:21 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: LibWhacker; Joe 6-pack

Ya mean VISCOUS dogs? (Thick as syrup)

WOOF the doggie ping.

Family calls cops, cops said they won’t come, but they show up anyhow. And they kill the dog.

A cat might be harder to train, but it could do damage in a way a dog never could. Dogs don’t climb up people’s bodies and sink teeth and claws into faces even through Kevlar.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 11:14:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: LibWhacker
“He said he was scared,” Mollner said, and shot the dog because he felt threatened.

With all the mailmen, meter readers, cable guys, Fedex deliveries, flower deliveries, and landscapers, why is it only the cops who feel threatened when a dog growls?

Shooting a dog should be a career-ending act.

-PJ

4 posted on 05/17/2012 11:20:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: SteveH
You're Obviously not getting this.

Cops are precious, special people. Their lives are far more valuable than the rest of us. They work for the government and keep us safe.

They have every right to kill any living creature (human or otherwise) that presents the slightest threat... real or perceived.

5 posted on 05/17/2012 11:21:58 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: LibWhacker

ticks me off too - ‘specially when, upon encountering dogs in the yard, where they were legally allowed to be untethered, Mr. Intelligent didn’t use his govt-provided cell phone to call the house phone to announce his unexpected presence and to give the owner time to secure the pets. My dogs are my furkids. I’d be in a major bad mood if one of my kids was murdered by some pansywaist quickdrawmcgraw.


6 posted on 05/17/2012 11:32:46 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: LibWhacker

I don’t know if all these JBTs are simply chicksh*t and about pee in their pants every time they see a running dog, or get off on killing them, but is is just a question of time until one gets killed himself doing it, and I know which death I am going to feel more sorry about.


7 posted on 05/17/2012 11:52:06 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Political Junkie Too
With all the mailmen, meter readers, cable guys, Fedex deliveries, flower deliveries, and landscapers, why is it only the cops who feel threatened when a dog growls?

There was a short story (science fiction) written a few decades ago. A space veteran was observed to not wear his gun. When asked why he explained. One day he was investigating an abandoned alien starship and had to go past a strange form of life. On his way in he managed to negotiate a passage. On his way out he was short on time, tired, and he had a gun... he killed the creature instead of trying to remain on good terms. Since then he doesn't carry a gun.

This story, of course, is just a story. In some cases a gun is needed to deal with creatures (human or otherwise) that are not rational. However even then often it is preferrable to step back and think. Having a hand on the gun does not facilitate critical thinking; everything around the officer suddenly looks like a target.

8 posted on 05/18/2012 1:31:57 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: blueplum

...and it didn’t occur to him to just close the damn gate? Fing Barney Fife!


9 posted on 05/18/2012 1:54:39 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SteveH

“How do post-people do their jobs every day without guns?”

The rhetorical answer is “with common sense”.

I get a sense over the last couple of decades that there is an ever increasing number of people entering law enforcement that really don’t have the courage for it.

I dunno, I’ll try to prepare for a life that will exclude, as much as possible, any need for law enforcement....interior of Alaska????


10 posted on 05/18/2012 2:11:07 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: SteveH

I’ve been driving a truck and working on people’s houses for 22 years. I’ve met thousands of dogs. I’ve even been bitten a few times (my fault, because I’m a “pet the doggie” kind of guy). I’ve never felt that my life was threatened, or that I was even in danger of being maimed. They shoot Jack Russells, for Pete’s sake. Anything that barks is just an excuse for target practice. I just live my life such that I have little or no contact with them. Your day will hardly ever be better if it involves law enforcement in any capacity.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 3:09:06 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn

It’s time police officers had some training in dog handling. I’ve never been bitten by a dog. I make friends with them. I’ve angered dog owners by being friends with their “big mean guard dogs”, not professionally trained dogs but just big mean dogs.
The first time was when I was picking up a carburetor for a friend. I didn’t know the man but found the address. There was a fence and two Rottweilers, they didn’t look friendly. I went down to one knee and talked softly. I let them sniff my hand through the fence. I avoided looking them in the eye. They were soon comfortable, I slowly entered the yard and rubbed their ears, walked up to the screen door with a dog on either side, petting their heads. The man freaked out.


12 posted on 05/18/2012 3:44:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: LibWhacker
and yet another dog shooter earns his merit badge...

13 posted on 05/18/2012 4:32:04 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: LibWhacker

I’ll give them an answer, Rottweiler wants to bite me, shoot Rottweiler, control your damn dog.


14 posted on 05/18/2012 4:45:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: LibWhacker

Officer Chase Calhoun has a small peepee.

What a moron. Doesn’t he know that a dog’s first duty is to protect its family from intruders?

I always thought that people who say they would shoot back at cops who shot at their dog were nuts but now I’m having second thoughts.


15 posted on 05/18/2012 5:12:44 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: AAABEST

Despite the sarcasm, you’re right. Cops must be protected because the ruling class will depend on them to keep the rest of us under control.


16 posted on 05/18/2012 5:14:54 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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WOOOF!

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17 posted on 05/18/2012 5:44:31 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LibWhacker

I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again.

Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who harms one of my family dogs in this manner is a dead person walking. The only open questions are where, when, and how.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 5:46:48 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I'm sorry, perhaps you missed this in the article:

Officer Chase Calhoun went to the family’s home near the corner of Kentucky and Trinity streets around noon Wednesday to take a statement. According to Vallejo Police, he heard two dogs growl, then saw them charge, as he opened the front gate of the home.

The Rottweiler mix was being controlled, by being in a fenced, gated yard.

If you came into my fenced in yard unannounced, going through a closed gate to get in, and then shot my rottweiler who was in that yard, I would shoot you.

And, you'll piss off Granny! She LOVES her yard full of dawgs!


19 posted on 05/18/2012 5:47:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: LibWhacker
I am curious to know how police deal with high fences, locked gates, security systems, & guard dogs of the rich & famous, when conducting an investigation.

When the rich man's dobermans charge the gate at the sight of a stranger - a policeman, do the cops immediately shoot the dogs? I DOUBT IT!

Now, we have all seen cops driving down the road talking on their cell phones, so we know they have them. When this dog situation arises in a warrant-less investigation, why can't the cops call the owner from outside the fenced yard & ask them to control the dogs, or the dogs will be shot? Before long, cops will be shooting threatening cats.

Why can't the average Joe get the same consideration as Jon Corzine or John Edwards?

This country becomes more tyrannical every day.

20 posted on 05/18/2012 5:54:24 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Indeed. How likely is it for a 14-year-old family pet to kill a LEO? Not likely.

So why are they allowed to use deadly force against people’s pets?

For God’s Sake, you LEOs should wear that dog-training sleeve on house calls.

That would be enough to save your precious skin from getting a nip, and the campaign that you appear to be waging to make everyone HATE YOUR BLEEDING GUTS would end immediately.

If you ever kill a pet of mine, you will never hear the end of it. I am a stubborn old bat.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 6:05:05 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Alas Babylon!

So you believe the cop shot the dog on the other side of a fence?


22 posted on 05/18/2012 6:16:25 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Actually the cop was trespassing. He should be brought up on charges of trespassing, unlawful discharge of a weapon within the city limits, destruction of property and endangering the lives of citizens including children. As would happen if anyone else did what the officer did.


23 posted on 05/18/2012 6:32:40 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: SteveH
How do post-people do their jobs every day without guns?

Milk Bones?

24 posted on 05/18/2012 7:00:04 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: LibWhacker

Yet another result of reduced requirements for LEO’s. You get what you ask for when you accept everybody.


25 posted on 05/18/2012 7:11:59 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Old enough to remember when this was a Free Country)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

IJAO,

Here are the facts we know of (my beliefs are not material):

1. The dogs were in a fenced, gated yard.

2. He opened the gate.

3. He shot one of the dogs, two times, killing it.

Where was he when he shot? In the yard? Outside on the street? It doesn’t say. However, it does say he opened the gate. When he heard/saw the dogs, why didn’t he close the gate? Would that have been easier and smarter (even ethical and legal) to do so, rather than draw his service weapon and shoot it 2 times (or more)? Now those are questions I don’t know the answer to, but I BELIEVE well worth asking.

Once again, if I person doesn’t want to get shot by me, don’t come into my gated yard and shoot my dog(s)—or any of my other critters or humans, unless they are committing a crime.

I also BELIEVE this: A dog defending herself in her fenced yard is not committing a crime.


26 posted on 05/18/2012 7:41:19 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: R. Scott

Census in 1990. I came to a large yard, maybe 10 acres out from town. It was fenced with a dog inside. The house was a couple of hundred feet back of the gate. The dog was standing up on the fence so I patted her head. She licked my hand. I unlatched the gate. The dog got stiff and snarled. I closed the latch and talked to her some more and went back to the gate. She let me come in then accompanied me to the house. I got the census form done. The old man then said, “Rosie will show you to the gate” which she did. When I relatched the gate, Rosie arfed once and I headed for the next address.


27 posted on 05/18/2012 7:46:07 AM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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To: x1stcav

Cops will gradually be displaced in many of their duties or will be absorbed by or will come under the jurisdiction of TSA. The process will become generally apparent sometime in the kenyan’s second term.


28 posted on 05/18/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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To: Mister Da
Before long, cops will be shooting threatening cats.

They stomp cats.

The worse danger here is in that condition of "feeling threatened." It has already been used more than once to justify shooting unarmed and unmoving people and can refer more to the surrounding situation as much as to the individual target. I believe that shooting of individual people in these situations will become as common as shooing of pets is now and there will be no punishments. The cop only has to say he "felt threatened."

I believe that the shooting of dogs as SOP is practice for and desensitization to the shooting of citizens though, with the police use of drones, technology is probably overtaking that progression even now. Shooting of citizens will become much less "personal."

29 posted on 05/18/2012 7:57:58 AM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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To: LibWhacker

So instead of stepping back and closing the gate he F’n shoots and kills the dog..

What a hero!

This needs to legislation or something to stop these cowards!


30 posted on 05/18/2012 8:11:12 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: R. Scott
“I’ve angered dog owners by being friends with their “big mean guard dogs””

My brother had an in heat Bull Mastiff. A lose neighbors pig prompted my brother to go over to the neighbors place - where they had a “big mean guard dog” a pit bull. One smell of my brother and that dog couldn't have been friendlier - as in “hey guy! introduce me to your dog! She smells WONDERFUL!”. All wiggles and smiles - the neighbors were mad!

I was reminded of a old Blues song...

How come my dog don't bark whenever you are on the scene?
You know I just can't understand it, ‘cause I know that hound is mean

Now you been comin’ around to my house
When my wife was all alone
Talkin’ all kinds of trash
Throwin’ my dog a bone

How come my dog don't bark whenever you are on the scene?
You know I just can't understand it, ‘cause I know that hound is mean

He bit my next door neighbor
He bit my father too
Growled at my dear mother
Ate up my old shoe

Now how come that dog ain't barkin’ whenever you are on the scene?
You know I just can't understand it, ‘cause I know that hound is mean

Now he can see like an owl
He can hear you drop a pin
But what I'd like to know
Is how the hell did you get in?

Now how come that dog don't bark whenever you are on the scene?
You know I just can't understand it, ‘cause I know that hound is mean

Now you been comin’ around to my house
My wife was all alone
Talkin’ all kinds of trash
And throwin’ my dog a bone

Now how come my dog ain't barkin’ whenever you are on the scene?
You know I just can't understand it, ‘cause I know that hound is mean

AND.....

I got the baddest dog.
He'll bite anybody.
He bit my little brother,
Took a chunk out of my old sweet little mother
He bit the mailman
he sees him EVERY day.
He takes one look at you
he wanna jump up and play.

Now I ain't got a clue as to what you puttin’ down,
but How come my dog don't bark when YOU come round?

My dog is dangerous.
To try to set people straight
I even bought a “bad dog” sign
and hung it on the gate.
Now here you come trippin’
about a quarter to nine,
Full of that Night Train wine,
Trying to slide past the sign.
My dog's layin’, noddin’ off,
ain't payin’ you NO mind.

That's MY DOG & when I come home he don't sleep that sound.
How come my dog don't bark when YOU come round?

31 posted on 05/18/2012 8:11:21 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: R. Scott

Well done. I once stopped an unleashed dog that was charging my leashed terrier while I was raking my yard. I used the rake — not as a weapon, but simply held it between the dog’s head and myself, placing myself between the dogs (my dogs are fully obedience-trained).

I never touched the other dog, but stopped his charge and held the rake between me and him. Slowly, I backed up the dog until he was off my property, at which point he turned and left.


32 posted on 05/18/2012 8:25:47 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: LibWhacker

All he had to do was call the people and tell them he was there to investigate the indenity theft and to get the dogs under control so he would not have to shoot them.

These people are doing immeasurable damage to the respect for the rule of law in this country. How are those kids going to grow up with any sense of respect for and trust in our justice system when cops act like this?


33 posted on 05/18/2012 8:26:36 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: blueplum
*** My dogs are my furkids. I’d be in a major bad mood if one of my kids was murdered by some pansywaist quickdrawmcgraw. ***

Ditto.
Our Yellow Lab, Honey, will be 5yo in a few days -- she is family. And she 'protects her property' (our yard and house) by barking at strangers. But she wouldn't bite anyone if she had to -- the UPS Truck and Delivery Guy really gets her off for some reason. Yet he knows how to make a delivery to us with out a problem (In and out pdq and he closes the gate behind him).

So I'd be in a REAL, major league, bad mood too if a Barney Fife 'did something' to her. And when I get in a bad mood like that, bad things usually happen.

(I'm a peaceable person but I don't suffer fools or idiots when they start sh.. 'stuff' with me and/or mine. No matter who or 'what' they are.)

34 posted on 05/18/2012 8:35:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: CalvaryJohn
Your day will hardly ever be better if it involves law enforcement in any capacity.

Ain't that the truth? I have long ago decided that I will never call the police unless there's a body on the front lawn, and then I will secure my dogs in a locked room before I telephone.

And lucky for me that I have no nearby neighbors.

35 posted on 05/18/2012 9:45:05 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: arthurus

What’s next “The conservative woman made me realize that if she were a man, she’d have brass ones ten times larger than the ones I actually have, so I felt threatened and shot her?”

“I felt threatened” increasingly appears to be code for “mine are the size of pin-heads”.


36 posted on 05/18/2012 10:09:54 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Shoot my dog in my yard and I’ll do your wife and kids a favor by killing your cowardly ass.


37 posted on 05/18/2012 10:45:10 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: LibWhacker

Caveat: I’ve not really read this yet. I’m not that interested today.

But, I have to laugh: “Labrador mix”.

That dog is clearly at least a Rottweiler mix. They’re emphasizing the “nice” side of the dog to garner sympathy.


38 posted on 05/18/2012 10:51:46 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Shoot all cops


39 posted on 05/18/2012 11:46:01 AM PDT by caldera599
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To: allmendream

Good one!


40 posted on 05/18/2012 12:39:31 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The situation—a cop opens the dog owner’s gate and shoots at the dogs within, killing one—garners sympathy.

It could happen to anyone here who has their dogs in a fenced-in yard.


41 posted on 05/18/2012 10:06:33 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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