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Will Gay Marriage Force Black Churches to Reconsider Democratic Party?
Townhall.com ^ | May 18, 2012 | Larry Elder

Posted on 05/18/2012 4:11:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

President Obama's affirmation of gay marriage threatens to undermine the near-monolithic black support Obama enjoyed in 2008. Several members of the black clergy now say they intend to sit out the presidential election. One poll from last November found black opposition to gay marriage at 58 percent, higher than the rest of the country, which is about evenly split.

The real question is this: What took black church leaders so long to reconsider their near blind support for the Democratic Party?

The historical strength of black churches has been that of a moral and spiritual refuge in a once-hostile country of legalized slavery and Jim Crow. This explains why so many civil rights leaders came out of the church. The moral cause was just and clear: Equal rights mean equal rights -- for everyone.

But equal rights and equal results are two very different things. The modern civil rights movement lost its way by failing to appreciate the difference. To achieve "equal results," the Democratic Party, among other things, demands redistribution of wealth, a government response to the "gap" between the rich and poor, higher minimum wages and higher taxes on the so-called rich.

The Democratic Party opposes education vouchers, despite polls showing that black and Hispanic inner-city parents want them. The Democratic Party is the party of race-based preferences and also opposes privatization of Social Security.

The Democratic Party is the party of the welfare state -- a neutron bomb dropped on the intact nuclear family. Author/editor/professor Marvin Olasky, in his book "The Tragedy of American Compassion," traces the growth of welfare. During a mere three-year period in the 1960s, welfare rolls increased nearly 110 percent. President Johnson established "neighborhood centers" whose workers went door-to-door, apprising people of their welfare "rights and benefits."

Until the so-called "War on Poverty," the poverty rate declined steadily. At the turn of the century, nearly 70 percent of Americans were poor. But by the time of the "War on Poverty," the rate stood at approximately 13 or 14 percent. What happened? Welfare created dependency and decreased the incentive of the welfare recipient.

The Heritage Foundation compared families on welfare versus families eligible for welfare but that, for one reason or another, refused to take it. The results were startling. Heritage reported: "Young women raised in families dependent on welfare are two to three times more likely to drop out and fail to graduate from high school than are young women of similar race and socioeconomic background not raised on welfare. Similarly, single mothers raised as children in families receiving welfare remain on AFDC longer as adult parents than do single mothers not raised in welfare families, even when all other social and economic variables are held constant."

The Democratic Party is the party of Roe v. Wade, even though blacks are more pro-life than whites. Former President Jimmy Carter, a religious man who called himself "twice born," thought the Democratic Party made a tactical and moral error by embracing abortion-on-demand as a federal right guaranteed by the Constitution: "I never have believed that Jesus Christ would approve of abortions, and that was one of the problems I had when I was president, having to uphold Roe v. Wade. ... But except for the times when a mother's life is in danger or when a pregnancy is caused by rape or incest, I would certainly not and never have approved any abortions. ... My position on abortion ... is to minimize the need or requirement for abortion and limit it only to women whose (lives) are in danger or who are pregnant as a result of rape or incest. I think if the Democratic Party would adopt that policy, that would be acceptable to a lot of people who are now estranged from our party because of the abortion issue."

The Democratic Party is the party of tax-the-rich. Never mind that Democratic Party icon President John Kennedy sounded downright trickle-downish when he said: "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low -- and the soundest way to raise revenues in the long run is to cut rates now. The experience of a number of European countries has borne this out. This country's own experience with tax reductions in 1954 has borne this out, and the reason is that only full employment can balance the budget -- and tax reduction can pave the way to full employment. The purpose of cutting taxes now is not to incur a budgetary deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous expanding economy which will bring a budgetary surplus."

The Democratic Party is the party of minimum wage. Nobel Laureate economist Milton Friedman said, "We regard the minimum wage as one of the most, if not the most, anti-black laws on the statute books."

For all these reasons, having nothing to do with gay marriage, black churches should have broken with the Democratic Party long ago.

Better late than never.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; barackobama; blackcommunity; church; democrats; gay; gaymarriage; marriage; sodomhusseinobama; welfare
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1 posted on 05/18/2012 4:11:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Blacks will vote for Obama no matter what...I call it Michael Jackson syndrome.


2 posted on 05/18/2012 4:14:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

For many blacks... skin color trumps everything else.

LLS


3 posted on 05/18/2012 4:15:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kaslin

Like so many Born Again Evangelicals, it took us about 3 years to see what we got in Jimma Carter. Soon, they’ll see the light, as we saw the light.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 4:16:02 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Kaslin

In a word? No.


5 posted on 05/18/2012 4:16:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rovenstinez

The difference with Jimmy was that while he was a Democrat, he was still a cracker. That is not the case now.


6 posted on 05/18/2012 4:17:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

Gay marriage will be quickly accepted once they consider giving up some social perks.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 4:17:52 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Kaslin

No.


8 posted on 05/18/2012 4:34:42 AM PDT by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: Kaslin
No. And here's why. Most members of the Democrat Party have the ability to simultaneously accept two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct. Orwell called it Doublethink in 1984. It is a foundation of Democrat Party indoctrination and ideology.
9 posted on 05/18/2012 4:35:46 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Kaslin

There’s nothing the kenyan can’t get away with when it comes to blacks. It’s because they are brought up in a culture of deceipt and dishonesty. It’s their “gangsta” upbringing. It’s cool to have to (or think you have to) fight and scrape and manipulate to get ahead because you’re black. All blacks have the “same uphill battle”, so they have to stick together. Along with their sense of entitlement.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 4:40:16 AM PDT by albie
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To: Kaslin

Blacks won’t desert the dems so long as Obama sits in the White House. A few might peel off, but I’d be stunned if black support for Obama dropped below 92%.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 4:40:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: LibLieSlayer

People just don’t want to pay public welfare benefits for two lunatics sodding off all day.

Muslims would just kill homosexuals.

Taking into consideration broken clocks tell the correct time twice each day, maybe “spread the other cheek” is not a good public policy.

In your unabridged Oxford Dictionaries, the word “faggotry” denotes the bundling of steel to be hammered or rolled together.

Mammalian evolution is entirely heterosexual.

 Monogamy is not required for evolution, monogamy is a tenet of religion.

To prohibit polyandry and polygyny is an ecclesiastic rule of law.

To establish an ecclesiastic standard of monogamy for homosexuals is nothing but RELIGIOUS FAGGOTRY.

Democrats live in a fantasy world where fairies wave magic wands over their anus and babies materialize out of thin air.

All men are born of a woman.

If you have to tell grown men that babies will not come out of their rectums, there is no hope for any rational discourse...


12 posted on 05/18/2012 4:41:09 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Kaslin

Simple answer—NO


13 posted on 05/18/2012 4:42:38 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Kaslin

If Obama was found to be gay, the black church would drop him like a hot potato - this is from black friends.


14 posted on 05/18/2012 4:52:59 AM PDT by w4women (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: Kaslin

Hell no! Marx is their god.


15 posted on 05/18/2012 4:54:56 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: rovenstinez

I wish you were right. But when, may I ask, have moral issues ever been a conflict for this group when the choice was between morals and more free stuff from Uncle Sugar?


16 posted on 05/18/2012 5:06:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Most members of the Democrat Party have the ability to simultaneously accept two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct. Orwell called it Doublethink in 1984. It is a foundation of Democrat Party indoctrination and ideology.

That's a disability.

17 posted on 05/18/2012 5:15:14 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Kaslin

Never. Race trumps everything else among black voters. I’ve asked many black Christians why they support a pro homosexual, pro abortion President. They can never give me a direct answer, because they don’t want to admit that they have thrown God’s Word under the bus in favor of race. Skin color trumps righteousness, though I do know a few black people who definitely do not support him.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 5:25:31 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Kaslin

No chance.


19 posted on 05/18/2012 5:29:12 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

I’ve read a description of the leftist worldview that included the phrase “comfortable with contradiction”.

I’ve personally encountered this with discussions of epistemology with a leftist.

The most basic logical law is that of non-contradiction.
Two opposite things cannot be true in the same way at the same time. Without this law of non-contradiction, it’s impossible to know anything.

When I asked the exact question of the lib I was talking to (”can two opposites both be true in the same way at the same time”) she answered “absolutely”.


20 posted on 05/18/2012 5:37:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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