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Report: 'Fat Tax' Could Curb Nation's Obesity Problem
theindychannel.com ^ | May 17, 2012 | Stacia Matthews

Posted on 05/18/2012 5:33:32 AM PDT by Abathar

INDIANAPOLIS -- Health experts have been trying to combat obesity in America for years and have recently suggested a new way to solve the growing problem.

A new study suggests that imposing a fat tax on unhealthy food and drinks could help slim down expanding waistlines.

According to reports, more than 60 percent of Americans are overweight. Under the tax, a $4 cheeseburger would cost an extra 80 cents, RTV6's Stacia Matthews reported.

Some Hoosiers found the proposed fat tax hard to swallow.

"I don't think we should tax people and the way they run their lives,” one man said.

Others said a fat tax is palatable.

"I'd pay 20 percent. It's worth it,” one woman said. "I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.”

Researchers said a fat tax could drop obesity rates by 3.5 percent and prevent 2,700 heart-related deaths a year. The study also urged subsidies for healthier foods and veggies to make them more affordable.

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You can have my cheeseburger when you pry it from my warm, greasy fingers.

And have fun doing it when I'm sitting on your skinny $ss...

1 posted on 05/18/2012 5:33:38 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

There’s a story in a sci fi anthology I read about food police in the future. And I believe one of the contraband addressed was a hamburger.


2 posted on 05/18/2012 5:37:00 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Abathar

That’s easy. Just weigh the Obama-voters and onetime tax tem per pound, Or ton.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 5:37:26 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Abathar

Wow I swear to God ideas like these make me feel like I’m in Stephen Kings short story: Quitters Inc.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 5:38:10 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Abathar
We're so far away from what our forefathers intended.

I have a NATURAL right to eat what I want...without government interference or penalty.

5 posted on 05/18/2012 5:38:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Abathar

Cutting the size of government would eliminate the need for additional taxes/ money. Thus, you wouldn’t have to use this as an excuse as justification to raise taxes. You think they’d eliminate the tax once everyone is “thin”?? LOL! This is what this is all about—an excuse to lay on extra layers of tax revenues using “weight” as an excuse. Everything they do is based on some “excuse”. These gov’t people are con-artists.


6 posted on 05/18/2012 5:39:25 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Abathar

LOL! No effect on honest American businesses there right?

Lets just tax fast food until there is no fast food...


7 posted on 05/18/2012 5:40:43 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: erod

I love that story, when his wife loses a finger...


8 posted on 05/18/2012 5:41:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
It will prevent 2700 deaths a year??

Well, if they will list the names of the folks saved each year, I'm in.

9 posted on 05/18/2012 5:41:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Abathar
This has nothing to do about public health and everything to do with another revenue stream to the government. Do you really think an 80 cent increase will stop ANYBODY from ordering a cheeseburger, let alone an obese person who has self control problems to begin with. Heck, I remember when a quarterpounder at Mcdonalds was $1 now it's $3+ yet they seem to be selling plenty of them.
10 posted on 05/18/2012 5:42:20 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

My exact thought also, plus the only people it will really hurt are the ones who probably can’t afford to pay more for food in the first place.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 5:43:57 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

A ‘Fat Tax’ could curb the nation’s obesity problem about as well as “The War on Poverty” defeated poverty.


12 posted on 05/18/2012 5:44:40 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Abathar

More tax under the guise of good intentions paid for by those who are least likely able to afford it. Tax the rich my a$$.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 5:45:19 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (If you mute Obama, you'll have a more accurate view of life in America.)
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To: Abathar

WOW the Holiday Inn must be making a load of money from these junk scientists


14 posted on 05/18/2012 5:45:40 AM PDT by free thinker 03 (Wouldn't it be refreshing if politicians actually listened to the people who elected them)
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To: Abathar

WOW the Holiday Inn must be making a load of money from these junk scientists


15 posted on 05/18/2012 5:45:48 AM PDT by free thinker 03 (Wouldn't it be refreshing if politicians actually listened to the people who elected them)
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To: Abathar

WOW the Holiday Inn must be making a load of money from these junk scientists


16 posted on 05/18/2012 5:45:53 AM PDT by free thinker 03 (Wouldn't it be refreshing if politicians actually listened to the people who elected them)
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To: jimfree

“There’s a story in a sci fi anthology I read about food police in the future.”

Was it “Lipidleggers?” Although that one focused on butter dealers.


17 posted on 05/18/2012 5:46:25 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Abathar

How about a “dumbass” tax on congress?


18 posted on 05/18/2012 5:46:32 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Abathar

I’m 5’7” and weigh 118 lbs. One of the reasons I’m able to weigh this MUCH, is my affinity for high calorie, high fat foods. Did you ever notice that the obese among us only drink DIET drinks and other such Lo-Cal foods?
For me, gotta have MEAT. And more MEAT. Also, stay MOVING.

Greasy Hamburgers?

Now, you’re makin’ me HONGRY...


19 posted on 05/18/2012 5:46:32 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: apillar

Just look at cigarettes. The same people are still smoking them and paying 4-5 bucks a pack...sometimes more.

So, you are right - it has nothing to do with public health. It’s all about money and control.


20 posted on 05/18/2012 5:46:58 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Abathar
Yea, it worked so good with cigarettes, right!

Mike

21 posted on 05/18/2012 5:47:04 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: Abathar
"I'd pay 20 percent. It's worth it,” one woman said. "I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.”

Of course... increasing numbers of people are more than happy to have Daddy Government guiding every aspect of their lives.

22 posted on 05/18/2012 5:47:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: free thinker 03

sorry about the multiple posts had problems with preview, mod can you delete these?


23 posted on 05/18/2012 5:49:01 AM PDT by free thinker 03 (Wouldn't it be refreshing if politicians actually listened to the people who elected them)
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To: bill1952
Amazing the pushers of big government think they can operate in a vacuum without any economic affects.

Yes, let's destroy the “fat industry” the way the libs nearly destroyed Yacht building (remember that one folks?). I can think of no better way to guarantee a double dip recession.

Here in Idaho one of our major crops is sugar beets and we have a plant to process them into sugar in Nampa, and one just over the border in Nyssa. If you want to hurt the local economy put a tax on sugar. It's going to be felt all the way back to the farmers.

The same is true for fast food. Put a tax on hamburgers and the demand for beef will fall and the ranchers will suffer. Bear in mind one of the age groups that currently has the hardest time finding work are whippersnappers just out of high-school many of whom fulfill the tired cliche and work fast food.

All the fat tax will do is make a lot of hard working folks unemployed and hungry.

24 posted on 05/18/2012 5:49:34 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: apillar
Others said a fat tax is palatable.

"I'd pay 20 percent. It's worth it,” one woman said. "I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.”

Fine then make the tax only apply to this dumb arse women and all the other that think it's "palatable". But leave the rest of us the h--l alone. By the way, think of what she is saying, "I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.” which translates too "I'm a fat slob with no self control who needs the government to come in and give me a financial incentive to eat healthy"

25 posted on 05/18/2012 5:49:37 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Abathar

“I’d pay 20 percent. It’s worth it,” one woman said. “I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.”

...this same idiot is saying, “hey, if paying 20% more doesn’t stop me, you can beat me”.


26 posted on 05/18/2012 5:49:51 AM PDT by albie
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To: Abathar
There is no link or reference to the supposed study. In the article, it said that "We've applied tax to alcohol and tobacco and that has definitely shown through very many studies that it actually decreased use. So, the logic has been applied to fatty foods and preliminary evidence in Europe is that it’s very effective,” Wright said.

Well, that's the kind of study I detest: studies like that go into great care to show correlations without ever establishing causation, and they run with it. Sorry, but showing a correlation between higher cigarette taxes and decreased smoking shows nothing: there has been a lot of effort to get people to quit smoking, from commercials telling how bad it is, to limits on places where people can light up. To say that the decrease is because of "smoking taxes" and then to apply the same thinking to obesity is just plain irresponsible.

What about the increasingly sedentary lifestyle? What about the "food pyramid" that recommends so many servings of so many foods that trying to follow it could easily make someone fat? What about the nanny statism that drives people to do just the opposite of what the nanny statists want, just out of rebellion against those who would control lives?

It's pretty much a lie that "unhealthy" foods are cheaper than "healthy" foods. It is actually cheaper to buy the ingredients and make meals from scratch. But it's time-consuming. Food being convenient is probably a big factor in obesity.

27 posted on 05/18/2012 5:50:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Abathar

I doubt this Gov’t “think tank” has bothered to see what percentage of the morbidly obese population is currently on Food Stamps. People on Welfare are typically the heaviest group out there. They have no need to work - for everything is provided to them for ‘free’; and they have better medical coverage than those “fools” like us who work for a living.


28 posted on 05/18/2012 5:50:35 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Abathar
There is no link or reference to the supposed study. In the article, it said that "We've applied tax to alcohol and tobacco and that has definitely shown through very many studies that it actually decreased use. So, the logic has been applied to fatty foods and preliminary evidence in Europe is that it’s very effective,” Wright said.

Well, that's the kind of study I detest: studies like that go into great care to show correlations without ever establishing causation, and they run with it. Sorry, but showing a correlation between higher cigarette taxes and decreased smoking shows nothing: there has been a lot of effort to get people to quit smoking, from commercials telling how bad it is, to limits on places where people can light up. To say that the decrease is because of "smoking taxes" and then to apply the same thinking to obesity is just plain irresponsible.

What about the increasingly sedentary lifestyle? What about the "food pyramid" that recommends so many servings of so many foods that trying to follow it could easily make someone fat? What about the nanny statism that drives people to do just the opposite of what the nanny statists want, just out of rebellion against those who would control lives?

It's pretty much a lie that "unhealthy" foods are cheaper than "healthy" foods. It is actually cheaper to buy the ingredients and make meals from scratch. But it's time-consuming. Food being convenient is probably a big factor in obesity.

29 posted on 05/18/2012 5:51:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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30 posted on 05/18/2012 5:52:21 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Abathar

When cheeseburgers are outlawed, only outlaws will have cheeseburgers....sitting here humming “Cheeseburger in Paradise”


31 posted on 05/18/2012 5:52:49 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: jimfree

“You are hereby charged with gross public obesity.”

“You are hereby charged with violating the public harmony”

“you have exceeded you daily calorie allowance, excess consumption is criminally punishable.”

/s

Does this mean we will have “ice cream easies” als smoke easies.


32 posted on 05/18/2012 5:54:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Abathar

There is no problem so intractable that it cannot be solved by the feral government sticking its hand into your pocket.


33 posted on 05/18/2012 5:56:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: Abathar

Fat people live longer during a famine. Being skinny is dangerous after a natural disaster. And for all you animal lovers out there, fat people provide more nouishment to mountain lions and grizzly bears and are easier to digest.


34 posted on 05/18/2012 5:56:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Abathar

Fat people live longer during a famine. Being skinny is dangerous after a natural disaster. And for all you animal lovers out there, fat people provide more nouishment to mountain lions and grizzly bears and are easier to digest.


35 posted on 05/18/2012 5:56:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Paisan
Been trying to point out this apparent paradox for years and it seems nobody wants to believe it!

Some may think you're kidding but some serious scientists have started to corroborate the idea lately. Check out the Fathead lecture in Ted Talks.

36 posted on 05/18/2012 5:56:24 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: NRA1995

I can picture myself making bootleg cookies at home and selling them, just like my grandma sold homemade beer during Prohibition.


37 posted on 05/18/2012 5:58:05 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Abathar
I'd pay 20 percent. It's worth it,” one woman said. “I would eat a lot more healthy just to save more money.”

Oh puleeze!
If you can't eat “healthy” with no fat tax, what makes you think you will eat “healthy” with a fat tax? After all, it's much cheaper buy your own ingredients and cook healthy food at home, and yet this woman just won't do it, even tho it's going to save her money. Most stupid idea I ever heard of.

38 posted on 05/18/2012 6:01:18 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Abathar

IF it was possible to tax the Left out of our business Obesity rates would drop over a period of time to that which it was in less stressed times.

It’s the Left that creates the atmosphere of anxiety that drives people to seek comfort. Comfort NOT only in drugs, escapism of every sort, but Comfort Food as well. Most “Comfort Food” IS in the fattening category.

Drive down the stress Leftist idiocy creates in our society, and obesity will follow in it’s path just as Obesity has increased as the Leftist idiocy has increased.

It’s the same in Europe. It’s the same in any country/society the Left has maligned.


39 posted on 05/18/2012 6:01:36 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Abathar

How about simply allowing health insurance companies to price their policies according to risk—including weight?

That should about solve it for everyone. Plenty of incentive for the overweight to slim down and yet the freedom for people to pay their own added healthcare costs without imposing on others—if they so choose.


40 posted on 05/18/2012 6:02:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: apillar
Do you really think an 80 cent increase will stop ANYBODY from ordering a cheeseburger, let alone an obese person who has self control problems to begin with.

Hell no. Look at smokes. The taxes far exceed the actual cost and people just keep on smoking. It's just another commie idea for a revenue stream.

41 posted on 05/18/2012 6:03:06 AM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: Sacajaweau

“It will prevent 2700 deaths a year??”

Obesity allegedly kills 400,000 people a year, so taken at face value, this strategy will solve exactly 0.675% of the problem. It’s obvious that the real motivation is to swell the coffers of government rather than solve the obesity problem. It’s like the proposed carbon tax: it would reduce global warming by less than 1 degree Celsius, but would create a gusher of new government revenue.


42 posted on 05/18/2012 6:03:43 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Paisan
Did you ever notice that the obese among us only drink DIET drinks and other such Lo-Cal foods?

I see this a lot. I've been drinking Diet Coke, probably ever since it's been on the market because I prefer it, I'm not over weight. You may come upon me eating a huge meal sometimes and drinking a good old Diet Coke with it. Regular colas are way to sweet for my tastes.

When dining in the south, I do not order the famous "sweet tea" either, way too sweet.

43 posted on 05/18/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

It’d also take away the subsidies that make fattening food cheaper.

In contrast, this proposal would have the feds continue to subsidize such foods—and then tax it when it’s consumed.

(Kind of like they did with tobacco.)


44 posted on 05/18/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: All

Demolition Man


45 posted on 05/18/2012 6:06:00 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Abathar

Dumb asses...
20 years of increasing taxes on cigarettes have not curbed smoking taxing will not curb weight...


46 posted on 05/18/2012 6:09:46 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Abathar

Next, you don’t have a right to be .... (well, you could only if you pay extra taxes)

short
ugly
stupid (ie incorrect thinking)
unpleasant
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(definition of each is of course controlled by ‘experts’, done after some ‘study’)


47 posted on 05/18/2012 6:11:34 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sacajaweau
It will prevent 2700 deaths a year??

That's just a canard to take away our Liberty. Walter E. Williams explains this wonderfully.

"How many times have we heard that "if it will save just one human life, it's worth it" or that "human life is priceless"? Both are nonsense statements. If either statement were true, we'd see lower speed limits, bans on auto racing and fewer airplanes in the sky. We can always be safer than we are. For example, cars could be produced such that occupants could survive unscathed in a 50-mph head-on collision, but how many of us could buy such a car? Don't get me wrong; I might think my life is priceless, but I don't view yours in the same light. I admire Greta Garbo's objectivity about her life. She said, "I'm a completely worthless woman, and no man should risk his life for me."

Source: http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/williamns041812.php3

Sadly, there are liberals who would be in favor of all those. Like a man who skydives, I'm well aware of the risks when I visit the local fast food dive.

48 posted on 05/18/2012 6:11:45 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Abathar
My exact thought also, plus the only people it will really hurt are the ones who probably can’t afford to pay more for food in the first place.

Yes. Yet another liberal thrust that will in the end harm the poor the most-just like state lotteries and taxing the "rich".

49 posted on 05/18/2012 6:11:45 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Abathar

So, are they saying that taxes reduce the activity being taxed?


50 posted on 05/18/2012 6:12:22 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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