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Breitbart: A 'Fact Checking Error'? Dystel & Goderich Ask Writers to Submit Their Own Bios
Breitbart.com ^ | 18 May 2012 | Steve Boman

Posted on 05/18/2012 12:00:53 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

Back in the mid-1990s, I lived in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. My wife was a medical student at the University of Chicago and I worked as a newspaper reporter.

I didn't know it, but also living in Hyde Park a few blocks away was a fellow just a couple years older than me named Barack Obama. At the time, he was a part-time lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, and I'm sure that at one time or another we crossed paths. I had no idea who he was, and unless he was a regular reader of the Chicago Daily Southtown, I'm pretty certain he had no idea who I was.

[SNIP]

I can speak of what she was like to work with and how she generated material. In my dealings with Dystel, I found her exceptionally thorough and very professional. She had a template she wanted non-fiction writers to follow, and my writing partner and I followed her template closely. She was rather fastidious, going so far as to mail a personal "Season's Greetings" card in December.

All material she used in our proposals came directly from me and my writing partner. She edited our rough-draft proposals and gave us feedback, but the final versions were all ours. Our final versions, bio included, were then simply photo-copied, by us, and distributed to potential publishers. This was back in the pre-Google days, recall.

I was asked to write the bio in the third person.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bc; bcgate; birthcertificate; birthers; british; certifigate; constitutionalists; eligibility; freethebc; imom; kenya; kenyan; manofmystery; mystery; naturalborncitizen; obama; whoishe
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Submission guidelines at the Dystel & Goderich website (original emphasis): "[Y]ou should describe in two or three sentences—no more—what the book will be about. This is followed by another brief paragraph on why it is being written and then another on why you are qualified to write it....Finally, there should be a more formal narrative Bio of the author."
1 posted on 05/18/2012 12:00:58 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: LucyT; Brown Deer; Seizethecarp

A steady stream of follow up articles on the original story. How many more artciles do they have in waiting?


2 posted on 05/18/2012 12:02:29 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Obama wrote and approved this Bio , is any of the Bio true


3 posted on 05/18/2012 12:09:30 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Fractal Trader

It’s actually a valid point made during the original story thread. Publishing companies obtain their biographical information for liner notes and such entirely from the author. Therefore “born in kenya” came directly from Obama. Ain’t rocket science.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 12:12:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Fractal Trader

Again- I say it is very important that people don’t jump on the “birthed” wagon due to Breitbart’s latest revelations.

It seems obvious to me that the Breitbart staff has a different motive. I believe they will prove that Obama had chosen to use “foreign student status” to his advantage to gain entrance into Harvard Law School. I also believe rotten grades at Columbia were the reason he could not get in on his own merits.

It seems likely to me that Breitbart has probably obtained proof of Obama lying to get into college and will dribble this information out over the next few months. The obvious result being, if Obama lied to get into Harvard, he will lie about anything.

I believe it is incumbent upon us at FR to not make wide, reckless statements about all recent laws being nullified, Hillary coming in to take over as the candidate, etc. Statements like this make us look foolish and ineffectual.

Let’s stick to the facts as they are released. Breitbart was adamant about not claiming Obama was actually born in Kenya. Let’s see what he has.

All of this, just the opinion of a Jew who doesn’t know anything.

:-)


6 posted on 05/18/2012 12:14:52 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (Am I'm the ONLY Conservative Jew in America? What's wrong with you other schmucks?)
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To: Fractal Trader

0/32 American.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 12:17:21 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Kind of like half-breed, and high cheek bone Warren


8 posted on 05/18/2012 12:21:48 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: Fractal Trader
Born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia... King Putt


9 posted on 05/18/2012 12:22:58 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

I think Breitbard made his statements to give hmiself cover that he wasn’t truly a “birther.” However, he was in constant contact with Sheriff Arpaio in the time leading up to the disclosure of the results from the Posse.

He certainly knew that several biographically-related documents were forged. He also was probably aware of the testimony from the Ayers’ postman about the foreign student which they sponsored. There’s probably more that Sheriff Joe has held in reserve.

I think that the most that Breitbart wasned to say was something like “there’s a lot of documents out there with different stories, some of which say he is a Kenyan, some not.” However, I have to believe that, at heart, Breitbart truly had a very strong suspicion that Obama was born in Kenya, he just wanted to avoid ridicule as much as possible.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 12:24:39 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Either BHO was born in Kenya, in which case he is a massive fraud, or he was born in Hawaii, and was just claiming to have been born in Kenya because he thought it gave him counterculture cred, in which case he is a massive fraud.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 12:25:19 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
The obvious result being, if Obama lied to get into Harvard, he will lie about anything.

It's not like he was a Kennedy and could get into Harvard on his name alone. Stupidity, be damned.
12 posted on 05/18/2012 12:25:41 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: molson209

“I’m Barack Obama and I approved this bio.”


13 posted on 05/18/2012 12:26:04 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Fractal Trader

The “fact-checking error” remained on their website for 16 years — until 2007 when, I’m sure just coincidentally, it disappeared.


14 posted on 05/18/2012 12:26:13 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: SpaceBar

Aw, he was just trying to spice it up a bit - it was rettrick, thats all.


15 posted on 05/18/2012 12:27:04 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Haiku Guy
Either BHO was born in Kenya, in which case he is a massive fraud, or he was born in Hawaii, and was just claiming to have been born in Kenya because he thought it gave him counterculture cred, in which case he is a massive fraud.

On odd days, he is his father's son and born in Kenya.

On even days, he is his mother's son and born in Hawaii.

16 posted on 05/18/2012 12:28:43 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Fractal Trader
From a Houston Based Kenyan newspaper in 2008. KENYAN BORN! www.usafricaonline.com/news.html
17 posted on 05/18/2012 12:29:06 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Fractal Trader

Just fantasizing......what if Breitbart got a copy of Barack’s original book “Lying Through Black & White” or whatever it’s called, to find that Obama had written in the book he was born in Kenya?

Wouldn’t that be rich? Whether he was or not, it would be awesome.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 12:30:41 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (Am I'm the ONLY Conservative Jew in America? What's wrong with you other schmucks?)
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To: JennysCool
It was a typo, haven't you hit the key board where a word like Hawaii morphs accidentally into Kenya.<= Saracasm!
19 posted on 05/18/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by Reily
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To: FreeAtlanta

Shouldn’t that be “King Putz?”


20 posted on 05/18/2012 12:31:44 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Fractal Trader

The lesson boys and girls: if you lie then it is ok. We won’t do anything about it? See, even the President is a big fat lier and nothing bad will come of it.
You want to be an American citizen just cross the border and you are in.
You can even become President.
Rules really are for suckers boys and girls.
The sky, or should I say the lie, is the limit.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 12:31:53 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
Do any of you remember when this former Georgia Tech football coach (George O'Leary) "embellished" on his resume to get his job. He did ok at Tech and was hired to be Notre Dames coach when it came out about the lies. The promptly rescinded the offer. In 10 years, have we fallen so far as a nation that lying on your resume is now acceptable?

Is the presidency less important that the coaching position at Notre Dame?

22 posted on 05/18/2012 12:33:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SpaceBar

Therefore “born in kenya” came directly from Obama.”

That is rock solid.

Now...the next question is this: Did he lie then?

Or is he lying now?

It’s one or the other. Honestly, at this stage, I actually think he was lying then in order to hang on to the “foreign student” mystique and narrative.

But either way, this is going to play out and hurt obama.....


23 posted on 05/18/2012 12:34:55 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: fremont_steve
Al D'Amato called Chuck Schumer a "putz-head" when Schumer challenged D'Amato for his Senate seat, and look what happened.

-PJ

24 posted on 05/18/2012 12:37:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Maybe, he thought saying he was from Kenya was a good way to pick up guys.


25 posted on 05/18/2012 12:38:29 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Fractal Trader

it is possible they had the original bio submitted by obama until at least 2007. if they still have it now by some miracle they should be in fear for their lives.


26 posted on 05/18/2012 12:43:09 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: FreeAtlanta

We're from Kenya!

27 posted on 05/18/2012 12:47:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SpaceBar
Plus, a true “fact-checking error” begins with a fact, so where did the (supposedly unchecked) fact come from? it had to be from Obama. I mean, it's not as if the bio read, “Obama was born in Wales”.
28 posted on 05/18/2012 12:48:46 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Fractal Trader

             YOU LIE!!!

29 posted on 05/18/2012 12:49:24 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Tea Party movement: more obstinate, unyielding and hostile to Democrats …)
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To: Fractal Trader

30 posted on 05/18/2012 12:50:21 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: utahagen

“I was born a poor white child.”


31 posted on 05/18/2012 12:51:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FreeAtlanta

The man in the second picture is Paul Johnson (Tech’s current coach), not O’Leary.


32 posted on 05/18/2012 12:52:13 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Don't mistake my vote for Romney as a vote FOR Romney, it's a vote against Obama.)
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To: utahagen

to anyone who remembers the pre-internet era, it is blatantly obvious this could only have come from obama himself. publisher doesn’t care who the guy is or wahtever, just write a bio and send it in.


33 posted on 05/18/2012 12:55:00 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Fractal Trader

“However, he was in constant contact with Sheriff Arpaio in the time leading up to the disclosure of the results from the Posse.”

Where did you get that from? Sheriff Joe said they talked on the phone one time just before Andrew died, and Joe didn’t even realize exactly who Breitbart was at the time, even though he said he later remembered they had met previously. That doesn’t sound like “constant contact” to me.


34 posted on 05/18/2012 12:56:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SpaceBar

I AM a published author (St. Martin’s). The bio on my book was submitted to my agent. It then went on the book jacket word for word the way I had written it.


35 posted on 05/18/2012 1:00:57 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Fractal Trader

Look let keep in simple..he may or may not been born in Kenya...but he has been presented as being born in Kenya when it was seen as and advantage..so either way he or people representing him lie as needed ....and it also make the birth certificate legitimate to question and his school records (did he claim he was foreign born for advantage) because of this history of lies


36 posted on 05/18/2012 1:01:32 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
+1.

And who assumes for a second that the Narcissist in Chief didn't EVER google his own name and see his “Bio”? He no doubt wanted to be “Kenyan” when he thought there might be benefit in it for him.

That being said - the literary bio from his publisher says he was born in Kenya - but the books they published for him said different.

37 posted on 05/18/2012 1:07:12 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Reily
It was a typo, haven't you hit the key board where a word like Hawaii morphs accidentally into Kenya.<= Saracasm!

Right. It was probably just his iPhone autocorrect messing up. Who hasn't had that happen? In 1991...

38 posted on 05/18/2012 1:07:18 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Revolting cat!
Along similar lines:...

"Despite Wild Accusations By So-Called “Earthers,” New Evidence Corroborates Obama’s Claim That He Was Born On This Planet Somewhere | The Rumford Meteor"

http://rumfordmeteor.com/?p=6513
39 posted on 05/18/2012 1:11:15 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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If this were, say, Bobby Jindal, can you IMAGINE what the news cycles would be like? 24/7 breathless coverage, people camped out on the agent’s lawn.

Of course, it would have all happened in 2008 before the election.


40 posted on 05/18/2012 1:11:45 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Fractal Trader
Is this all another “Elizabeth Warren” fiasco where someone embellished their “history” to make themselves into something they are not - just to get ahead? Or, was Elizabeth Warren “outed” to set the stage for an eventual outing of Obama knowing people would get over/get tired from Warren's faux pas and not hit Obamy as hard?
41 posted on 05/18/2012 1:13:52 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: All

Anyone remember Ulsterman’s insider saying to “go back to Chicago”?


42 posted on 05/18/2012 1:21:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: FreeAtlanta

I swear to God, I SWEAR TO GOD, when I first read your post I thought it said: “Maybe, he thought saying he was from Kenya was a good way to pick up GAYS.”

Swear to God. . . .


43 posted on 05/18/2012 1:23:41 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: CWSNTEXAS

[ It seems obvious to me that the Breitbart staff has a different motive. I believe they will prove that Obama had chosen to use “foreign student status” to his advantage to gain entrance into Harvard Law School. I also believe rotten grades at Columbia were the reason he could not get in on his own merits.

It seems likely to me that Breitbart has probably obtained proof of Obama lying to get into college and will dribble this information out over the next few months. The obvious result being, if Obama lied to get into Harvard, he will lie about anything. ]

I have been SCREAMING about this for the last year two years off and on here at FR, and no one seemed to think it was as important as the BC. It is nice to know I have validation!


44 posted on 05/18/2012 1:24:45 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Fractal Trader

[ I think Breitbard made his statements to give hmiself cover that he wasn’t truly a “birther.” However, he was in constant contact with Sheriff Arpaio in the time leading up to the disclosure of the results from the Posse.

He certainly knew that several biographically-related documents were forged. He also was probably aware of the testimony from the Ayers’ postman about the foreign student which they sponsored. There’s probably more that Sheriff Joe has held in reserve.

I think that the most that Breitbart wasned to say was something like “there’s a lot of documents out there with different stories, some of which say he is a Kenyan, some not.” However, I have to believe that, at heart, Breitbart truly had a very strong suspicion that Obama was born in Kenya, he just wanted to avoid ridicule as much as possible. ]

It is not the fact that he may or not be born in Kenya, but the coverup/distortions over the years of him using this for his advantage and then the reversal when the DNC power elite chose him for POTUS nominee.


45 posted on 05/18/2012 1:26:20 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Political Junkie Too
I always thought D’Amato was blackmailed. He was a sharp voice for a long time and then out of the blue he clammed up.
46 posted on 05/18/2012 1:27:36 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Servant of the Cross

"That's not true!"

47 posted on 05/18/2012 1:28:26 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fractal Trader

bookmark


48 posted on 05/18/2012 1:29:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Nice analysis.

In some ways, it may be even more involved than you present: Obama knows where he was born, but Obama doesn’t know if Breitbart knows where he was born. And Obama knows what he told Harvard Law, but he doesn’t know if Breitbart knows what he told his various educational enablers. And the Breitbart folks have shown that they know how to play their cards, as they demonstrated with the Acorn expose.

So Obama and his minions will have to calibrate their lies more and more carefully as they go along, as they’ll never know (until it’s too late) what the Breitbart folks are sitting on.

Breitbart lives.


49 posted on 05/18/2012 1:33:30 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: CWSNTEXAS; Fractal Trader

Freepers have found over a dozen articles stating Obama was born in Kenya. (Have found two personally). Breitbart is using the “Born in HI” as a brier-patch meme. It’s a comedy technique. It will become a joke after he releases another, another and another and yet another article/paper trail (each with the BO insistance that he was born in HI)

Looks at the Alinsky rules (Breitbart thought like a liberal)...It fits in and will eventually show that BO used the “born in Africa” to his advantage up until 2007. (It continued in Africa and Indonesia well into 2008.)

Eventually “Is He lying now or was he lying then?” will be the topic at the office water coolers.

All media should be asking:

“IS HE LYING NOW OR WAS HE LYING THEN”

They won’t! It won’t, however, stop the AM people from asking.


50 posted on 05/18/2012 1:40:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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