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Why Kenyan Birth Claim Was No 'Fact Checking Error'
American Thinker ^ | MAY 18, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 05/18/2012 11:33:25 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: usconservative
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention.
Good try at a wrong assumption.

When's the last time anyone in the media mentioned the birther issue?
Perhaps the better question is...When's the last time anyone in the media didn't mention the birther issue?

Or perhaps you've missed how well watched/observed the latest story about the unearthed literary biography has been. It seems that everybody in "the media" had a comment, even if it was to paint it as "nothing to see here".

Despite the issue always being "on the sideline" it's also always been continually mentioned.

Perhaps it's you who hasn't been paying attention.

101 posted on 05/19/2012 6:43:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AlexW
Hitlary is an opportunistic skank, but I doubt that she is a Marxist.

You have a higher opinion of her than I do. She's been hiding out as Sec of State but I remember who she really was and she's not changed, IMH. This "newer, kinder Hillary" PR is bogus.

I've never thought Mooshell had anything over HRC. And I'm in a good mood.
102 posted on 05/19/2012 6:43:55 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

...IMO.


103 posted on 05/19/2012 6:45:20 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Raycpa

IF this was an isolatd incident she may have made a “mistake”,but there were MANY articles with the “born in Kenya” meme published before 2007, Many just disappeared as freepers found them. Some have been stashed in research files on these threads. Nowhere was there found a correction published to change the phrase to born in HI.


104 posted on 05/19/2012 6:45:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: RegulatorCountry
Wrong. I didn't 'trot out' anyone and I challenge you to prove I voted for Romney in the primaries. I didn't so stop trotting out wild-assed accusations.

If you're hell bent on ignoring reality and the facts that I've laid out, then that's your problem. I'll be pointing directly at you if Obama gets re-elected. We'll have folks like you to thank. Fact.

105 posted on 05/19/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: philman_36
Despite the issue always being "on the sideline" it's also always been continually mentioned.

By who? A bunch of bloggers that no one reads? Get real .....

106 posted on 05/19/2012 6:47:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Brown Deer
I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.

Hey, Rockie...


107 posted on 05/19/2012 6:50:21 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: usconservative
Despite the issue always being "on the sideline" it's also always been continually mentioned.
A bunch of bloggers that no one reads?

Nahhhhhh...by the MSM! You know, the ones who paint it as "nothing to see here".
It happens every time something...troubling...comes out.

108 posted on 05/19/2012 6:53:10 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yosemitest

This is the freaky one...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HJ00002:@@@L&summ2=m&;

H.J.RES.2
Latest Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to permit persons who are not natural-born citizens of the United States, but who have been citizens of the United States for at least 20 years, to be eligible to hold the Office of President.
Sponsor: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] (introduced 1/4/2005) Cosponsors (1)
Related Bills: H.J.RES.42
Latest Major Action: 3/2/2005 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution.


109 posted on 05/19/2012 6:53:26 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Here is the narrative.

First, I am Not a birther. (There, now the MSM will like me, or at least tolerate me and not try to marginalize me. So, I repeat, I AM NOT A BIRTHER!

Now, with that innoculation I will approach the subject of Obamas past, without delving into No-Mans-Land of Obamas past. I will speculate on his college records, his law school records....and I will speculate without having any record in hand. I will even speculate that Obama obtained federal money by lying on his application for those schools (in other words, I am not so far around the bend that I cannot put it out there that Obama committed felonies), but I will not take the words of:

His paternal grandmother who says she was there, on the ground, when Obama was born in Kenya,

His wife, Michelle, who we have seen in video say he was from Kenya, (prior to the apparent need to obfuscate that fact).

The words of Obama himself in the autobiography publicist promotional piece in 1991, which he either told the promotional people, or wrote himself.

These real-time, on the ground, contemporaries of Obama who made these statements now retrace their steps, some as many as 17 years, to tell us that they lied about where Obama was born. They are willing to take on the mantle of LIAR EXTRAORDINARE, to tow the line. Either they are lying now, or they lied then...either way, they are liars.

Now what makes these people call themselves liars. Fear of reprisals? Threats? Money? Ideology? It is inexplicable to me.

But, did I say, "Now, I am not a birther, but.......". There, I innoculated myself from criticism. I feel much better about myself. I am with all of the crowd in Washington and New York who willfully delude themselves in order to bring forth more lies. I am not a moonbat...I am just like the journalist, pundits, and politicians who avert their eyes from the evidendce which mounts daily. I am a good person.

110 posted on 05/19/2012 6:54:35 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Travis McGee
gee, *WHY* is it sooooo dang hard to for people to understand that this 'bio' is written by the *won* who is seeking the publishing/promoting ???

when its that simple, the only remaining question is *why* is it being covered ???

either the kenyan submission was a lie to defraud high dollar universities, or it was the truth, and the US Constitution was defrauded later, when necessary ???

but i dont expect this to get much traction, as these were mentioned, and sh!tcanned quickly in the last race too...

i doubt any info that *proves* either case, can be rooted out today, after 4 yrs of executive cleaning and sealing...

111 posted on 05/19/2012 6:57:43 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: philman_36

Watch me pull a wabbit out of my hat....LOL


112 posted on 05/19/2012 6:58:14 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: philman_36

Ha, should played the clip first, he does say rabbit...


113 posted on 05/19/2012 6:59:52 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Yosemitest
It says he was a "Financial Journalist" for BI.

From Wikipedia:

Business International Corporation (BI) was a publishing and advisory firm dedicated to assisting American companies in operating abroad. In 1986, Business International was acquired by The Economist Group in London, and eventually merged with The Economist Intelligence Unit. BI has been known to be used as a CIA front company.

114 posted on 05/19/2012 7:00:36 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: GregNH

I say, I say, that moose needs a new hat!

115 posted on 05/19/2012 7:04:04 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RobinMasters

IIRC, there is another inconvenient error that was cleared up just as Obamugabe was looking like the Dhimmicrat nominee.

Some biographical website had he being born in the late 50’s but that was changed to match the “newspaper announcements” from Hawaii. I can’t recall how “official” it was.

If true, this would put to give some pause to the offering of “Stanley couldn’t have flown back with such a young child and so soon after birth.” It also begs to ask other questions about his origins and parental units.

In fact, it might make the missing INS incoming records even more suspicious.


116 posted on 05/19/2012 7:12:59 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
There, I inoculated myself from criticism. I feel much better about myself. I am with all of the crowd in Washington and New York who willfully delude themselves in order to bring forth more lies. I am not a moonbat...I am just like the journalist, pundits, and politicians who avert their eyes from the evidence which mounts daily. I am a good person.

Whoa - you can 'do' creepy - been staying at the bates motel recently?

117 posted on 05/19/2012 7:13:50 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: edge919

Either Obama lied or the “editor” who didn’t fact check, which means she didn’t do her job lied.

Either way, someone should get fired.


118 posted on 05/19/2012 7:14:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: usconservative
You’re more full o’ sh*t than a Christmas turkey.
I didn't know Christmas turkey was supposed to be full of shit. Guess that's how you eat it eh?


Before the turkey is cleaned out and prepared for cooking, it's full of all KINDS of shit, kinda like the shit you're peddling in this thread about only focusing on 0bama's economic record, while ignoring all of the more critical issues such as our Constitution being trampled.

But you're more concerned with the moolah in your pocket.
119 posted on 05/19/2012 7:23:50 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: sueQ; usconservative; All
Just wondering...
If this topic is as irrelevant as you say, why do you hang out at forums such as these? There are plenty of other discussions going on at FR. Surely you could find one you find worthy.


I'll tell you why. I think usconservative could very likely be a troll for Axelrod, or any one of 0bama's sockpuppets, outrageous you say? Consider this:

The issue of 0bama's birth and his questionable credentials to hold the Office he is currently occupying is NOT something that 0bama has any control over, it has developed a life of it's own, and even his faux 'release' of that fake BC following Donald Trump raising Hell about it was not enough to put the issue to rest.

Now on the other hand, 0bama's economic record, which usconservative insists is the ONLY issue that we should focus on, IS something that 0bama can affect and change between now and the general election. He can do any number of things (between him and Geithner at Treasury) to make things look better, or marginally improve, and the lamestream media will trumpet it from coast to coast.

The bottom line question is: should we all be more concerned about MONEY and how 0bama's policies are affecting our pocketbooks to the EXCLUSION of all else? Or is there something at stake here even GREATER than our own financial resources and security?

Any moron can look at the economy and say it's bad, but it takes a thinking person to understand that if our Constitution, the highest of our Laws is being violated and trampled, it matters not how many dollars we have in our piggy banks (and I have much more faith in the American people than usconservative does, who looks down his nose at the majority of our fellow citizens).

That is what this all boils down to, i.e. choose Honor and Integrity to defend, or choose MONEY.
120 posted on 05/19/2012 7:35:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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