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Police chief: Man who killed Gil acted in self-defense(CA)
register-pajaronian.com ^ | 17 May , 2012 | Tom Dunlap

Posted on 05/19/2012 6:15:45 AM PDT by marktwain

WATSONVILLE — Charges won’t be filed in the stabbing death of Brandon Gil in March, because investigators have determined that the suspect acted in self-defense.

Watsonville Police Chief Manny Solano said Thursday that investigators determined that on March 31, after words were exchanged, Gil and another man, Ricardo Flores, attacked Frank Garcia first, outside El Miramar Restaurant and Bar on Main Street. Gil allegedly stabbed Frank Garcia in the upper body, and Garcia defended himself.

“(Garcia) responded in fear of his life,” Solano said, adding that “this was a beef within the gang.”

The three men are all associated with the same Norteno street gang, Solano said. They were all armed with knives during the fight, he said.

Solano said he told Gil’s family that charges wouldn’t be filed. Regarding how Gil’s family took the news, Solano said: “Some of it wasn’t a surprise. Some of it was hard to process…. I think they understand that their son was involved in risky behavior.”

"It's a tough process for them," said Watsonville Police Lt. Dave McCartney.

Detectives determined that Gil and Flores confronted Garcia because of a prior assault that Garcia had been involved with. As a result of this assault, Garcia was no longer accepted by the gang and was targeted by the gang for harassment and violence, Solano stated.

"We believe Frank Garcia has been removed from the area," Solano said. "It's pretty apparent he's not safe here, if he stays."

Garcia had ties with a prison-based criminal organization and had an association with the same northern street gang as Gil and Flores, Solano stated.

Gil had been a known gang member and was considered a high-risk youth. A makeshift memorial for Gil still stands on the sidewalk where he died, at East Lake Avenue and Brennan Street.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; defense; knife
Most people who are the victims of homicide have a criminal record.
1 posted on 05/19/2012 6:16:00 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Charges won’t be filed in the stabbing death of Brandon Gil in March

But someone died, there has to be a trial! Let the jury decide!
2 posted on 05/19/2012 6:22:33 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: marktwain
Most people who are the victims of homicide have a criminal record.

Then we must ban "criminal records."

3 posted on 05/19/2012 6:23:18 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.
The three men are all associated with the same Norteno street gang, Solano said. They were all armed with knives during the fight, he said.

4 posted on 05/19/2012 6:41:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marktwain

Sounds like a hate crime to me! ;-)


5 posted on 05/19/2012 6:41:27 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: SunkenCiv

You are welcome.


6 posted on 05/19/2012 7:14:54 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Any mention of which gang?

There is something about California that just results in gangs everywhere, and always has, going back to the 19th Century.

Here are just the major street gangs, and not an inclusive list, by a long chalk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_street_gangs

Here is a smaller scale list, just to indicate the scope of this insanity.

http://iestreetlife.aforumfree.com/f25-northern-california-gangs


7 posted on 05/19/2012 8:33:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Any mention of which gang?

Read the entire post; it's there. Don't even have to go to the link.

8 posted on 05/19/2012 10:05:01 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

Yes and no. It describes them as being Nortenos, but that is a whole collective of northern Mexican and Latino California street gangs, possibly numbering in the thousands, under who knows how many local “brands”.

And the issue is further confused because they said it was a “prison gang”. But there is not a clean overlap between street gangs and prison gangs. Allies on the inside might be enemies on the outside.

California gangs are difficult to police up, because they tend to be decentralized organizations. There are many “chiefs” and “braves”, like in an Indian tribe, but no hierarchy and no overall leadership. A chief is only a chief because a few braves will hang out with him for a while. He has no real authority over them.

The federals, state and local police spend a heck of a lot of time figuring out who is doing what to whom with gangs.


9 posted on 05/19/2012 12:34:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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