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The Free Ride Is Over For Streaming Video (No longer will users be able to endlessly stream)
TechCrunch.com ^ | May 19th 2012 | Ryan Lawler

Posted on 05/19/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT by AmonAmarth

Comcast’s plans to do away with its 250 GB data cap and charge users based upon usage marks the end of an era for cable TV providers, and for the online video industry. No longer will users be able to endlessly stream all the content their hearts desire. Not just that, but the fact that usage-based pricing is arriving at the same time that more, higher-quality content is appearing online could have a dampening effect on demand for services like Netflix or Hulu Plus.

Comcast, of course, says that its new, usage-based pricing policy is pro-consumer, and to a certain extent it is. The average broadband subscriber — those who only use up about 8 GB or 10 GB of data a month — shouldn’t necessarily pay the same as those whose usage goes above 300 GB in the same period of time.

But for those of us who are avid streaming video users, usage-based pricing models could change the overall value proposition of watching video on the Internet.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: comcast; streamingvideo
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Crap. I canceled Cable 2 years ago and I have 20 over the air channels, Netflix, and Hulu. $16.00 a month, everything the family likes to watch. Now the price will be going up, big time.
1 posted on 05/19/2012 6:14:29 PM PDT by AmonAmarth
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To: AmonAmarth

Hey, all of you “Internet-over-Cable” snobs - my poky old DSL streams everything just fine - and the price hasn’t changed in years.....

Watching HULU (Free) as I type this... ;)


2 posted on 05/19/2012 6:17:42 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: AmonAmarth

kill the tv. you’ll all be better off.


3 posted on 05/19/2012 6:19:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: AmonAmarth

dont even know who comcast is and don’t care, it wont affect me or my ability to stream over my AT&T dsl.


4 posted on 05/19/2012 6:20:23 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. and the economy died.)
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To: AmonAmarth

Ha ha. I have heard this all before. There are enough outlets now, that unlimited plans will expand, NOT contract. I remember AOL resisting unlimited dial-up hours. I also remember paying by the minute for Compuserve and Delphi.

Comcast can do what it wants. The DSL providers and others will provide the bandwidth over time to win customers. The cable companies always treat broadband like the unwanted step-child anyway. Until they learn, they will pay, by losing customers.


5 posted on 05/19/2012 6:20:32 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: AmonAmarth
Comcast’s plans to do away with its 250 GB data cap and charge users based upon usage marks the end of an era for cable TV providers COMCAST
6 posted on 05/19/2012 6:20:54 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: AmonAmarth
I've always had some kind of data cap. As a consequence, I never initiated an interest in streaming movies or other video content as a source of continuous entertainment. The occasional brief YouTube video gets some attention. I won't notice a bit.
7 posted on 05/19/2012 6:22:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dr. Sivana

” I remember AOL resisting unlimited dial-up hours. “

I remember AOL using up all of my “free” minutes with every-other-day update downloads (2-3 hours each @ 1200 bpm)... I dropped them as soon as MSN came on with their unlimited plan...


8 posted on 05/19/2012 6:26:15 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: AmonAmarth

Just took a look at my comcast account. I ditched cable tv and now watch everything thru the internet. I was over 370GB in February, 260 in March, and 202 in April. Moving the max to 300GB will help me avoid more nastygrams.


9 posted on 05/19/2012 6:32:06 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

I would say the LEAD horse in this effort is Carlos Slim Helu, he owns so many Telecomunications in Latin America, and just recently Tel Mex told it’s customers in Mexico that they would start paying for content downloaded...


10 posted on 05/19/2012 6:37:14 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: AmonAmarth
Now the price will be going up, big time.

Maybe. 250 GB is a lot of Netflix and Hulu viewing. Charging by usage is a lot more fair, anyway - in theory. Internet users who use 10 or 20 GB a month should get much lower Comcast bills under the new pricing structure but probably won't - Comcast will probably make the old base rate the new minimum rate and charge upward from there based on usage.

Note that Comcast will not charge beyond the service minimum if customers stick exclusively with Comcast's own Xfinity streaming service - those customers will never be charged extra, no matter how much bandwidth they use as long as the bandwidth is spent on Comcast's own service. Pretty much like the power company not charging us beyond the service minimum as long as we buy all of our appliances from the power company. That was what the Net Neutrality issue was about, though it was pretty much lost in a lot of misconceptions.
11 posted on 05/19/2012 6:37:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Dr. Sivana

Cable is the reason we have the Matthews and Oprahs , every Patriot should cancel it. I wish my Wife would agree..


12 posted on 05/19/2012 6:38:23 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comiĆ³ un perro)
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To: omega4179

and the MSNBC and CNN and NBC...


13 posted on 05/19/2012 6:38:59 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comiĆ³ un perro)
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To: omega4179
Cable B gone for ~ 15 years.

I'd pay 10% for my pick of 10% of the 300 channels.

14 posted on 05/19/2012 6:43:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AmonAmarth

The real issue is for local communities to quit giving Comcast monopolies on running cable and internet to every house. These communities need to allow other companies to compete with Comcast. Other companies who want to compete should be allowed to run their own lines, not buy wholesale off Comcasts lines.


15 posted on 05/19/2012 6:44:18 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: AmonAmarth

Comcast employees are the #1 donors to the Obama campaign. Comcast’s CEO is the weekly golfing partner of Obama. Comcast can shove anything they want down the consumer’s throat and don’t have a worry with the current DOJ. I canceled Comcast back six months ago and haven’t looked back.


16 posted on 05/19/2012 6:45:46 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: omega4179

I was the one who pushed it in my house.

We have a Roku and it’s the best.


17 posted on 05/19/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

HD TV Ping


18 posted on 05/19/2012 6:49:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: AmonAmarth

I have no problem with the notion of paying for that which I consume - as long as market competition is protected.


19 posted on 05/19/2012 6:57:30 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: netmilsmom

Roku will play any video you can find streaming on the web? Nice unit if so.


20 posted on 05/19/2012 6:57:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: The Duke

Wireless (4G WiMax etc.) will end up killing Comcast soon enough. Comcast is just overhanging the market, giving the consumer the desire ahead of availablity.


21 posted on 05/19/2012 7:01:38 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Look up Plex.
Between Plex and Justintv, I get everything I want to see.

You can “Plex” most YouTube videos. I’m not sure what site you are looking to watch.

There are tons of Roku channels too.


22 posted on 05/19/2012 7:03:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: AmonAmarth

Free market to the rescue!


23 posted on 05/19/2012 7:08:42 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: omega4179

Problem is that all the shows worth watching are on cable networks now. Every show that my wife and I regularly watch, Game of Thrones, Borgias, Spartacus, True Blood, Dexter, etc etc, are all cable. Broadcast television is utter crap with insulting commercials every seven minutes.


24 posted on 05/19/2012 7:12:58 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: netmilsmom

I’m a dabbler. Most of the time what I dabble will be on You Tube. I suppose I could get a video card for a PC that supports a television, either the modern HD video or the old fashioned NTSC.


25 posted on 05/19/2012 7:14:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: AmonAmarth

Going over 200 GB requires a lot of watching. I have a Roku box and a PS3 connected online, watch a lot of Netflix movies and MLB.TV games, and the most I’ve ever gone to in a month was 55 GB.


26 posted on 05/19/2012 7:14:45 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: DaveyB

Ha, good luck on that. Between the two of us, my wife and I have 5 4G (what they’re calling 4G) devices on 4 separate accounts. We regularly exceed the data cap and are throttled back for the remainder of the billing period.


27 posted on 05/19/2012 7:16:04 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Uncle Ike

I think you completely misunderstood the story, Ike. The days of you being able to endlessly stream Netflix, Hulu and Vudu over the internet are coming to a close. This story focused on Comcast, but it’s a move that all providers are going to, whether you have cable, fiber-optic, or as you put it lowly DSL. Right now about 30% of internet users stream video from sources like Netflix. It’s already been recognized in the industry that the infrastructure is not there to handle it when it climbs to 50%.


28 posted on 05/19/2012 7:17:00 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My hubby hooked a tower up to our LCD tv.
The picture died this week but it’s been good up until now.

We watch a lot of Judge Judy, Iron Chef and Mystery Science Theater on YouTube.


29 posted on 05/19/2012 7:18:15 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Melas

There will have to be work arounds such as cacheing during non peak periods.


30 posted on 05/19/2012 7:23:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: richmwill

It’s not nearly as much as you think. HD streaming hits on average about 1.3gb an hour. Have a household like mine with 4 computers and two internet enabled blu-ray players that can simultaneously stream, and you can chew up 8gb an hour just with family members watching television.


31 posted on 05/19/2012 7:26:44 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: tennmountainman
The real issue is for local communities to quit giving Comcast monopolies on running cable and internet to every house. These communities need to allow other companies to compete with Comcast. Other companies who want to compete should be allowed to run their own lines, not buy wholesale off Comcasts lines.

Without a payback guarantee, no company will spend the capital to run lines.

Comcast took over our ATT cable company and expanded the service to include internet (ATT didn't offer it). Verizon is not going to wire the county for FIOS.

My options were to continue to use a bad phone line from Verizon (and max 1.3 dsl) and use dish or direct tv or go with comcast for a good product. The price is pretty much equal. Since verizon would not even admit my phone line (outside line) was bad, it was a no-brainer. Thanks to going all digital tv, we all need either cable or satellite.

32 posted on 05/19/2012 7:27:28 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: omega4179

Every patriot should cancel cable because of Oprah and Matthews? Well genius, if it wasn’t for cable we wouldn’t have Fox News and ESPN either.

Anything else you think we should get rid of just because liberals take advantage of it? Cars maybe? Electricity?


33 posted on 05/19/2012 7:32:09 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s without a doubt being considered. I don’t think anyone that’s truly tech savvy expected this to last though. When I first read that streaming had broken the threshold and accounted for more than half of internet traffic, I saw the writing on the wall. When I learned just how small a percentage (at the time less than 25%) of users it took to consume that much bandwidth, it removed all debate from my mind.

The FReepers on this thread that think that this can go on and that the free market is going to provide this bandwidth at current rates is dreaming. As it gets worse, someone will offer unlimited data, but it won’t be for $50 a month.

That’s really the bottom line. Bandwidth is going to become more precious, and it’s going to cost more. There won’t be any getting around that.


34 posted on 05/19/2012 7:35:57 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Abby4116
Thanks to going all digital tv, we all need either cable or satellite.

If there are over-the-air broadcasts in your area, buy yourself a modern OTA antenna and enjoy HDTV broadcasts from local TV. Bonus - OTA HDTV signals aren't compressed as cable and satellite are.
35 posted on 05/19/2012 7:37:05 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Melas
I think you completely misunderstood the story, Ike. The days of you being able to endlessly stream Netflix, Hulu and Vudu over the internet are coming to a close.

Only an idiot would believe this.
36 posted on 05/19/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Melas

“Game of Thrones, Borgias, Spartacus, True Blood, Dexter”

Ha, I’ve never seen a one!
I’ve followed maybe two shows that have come out in the last ten years

There’s no accounting for taste, I love the old shows- Perry Mason, whatever.

They’re broadcast over the air on the secondary digital channels.


37 posted on 05/19/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: AmonAmarth

So? I download thru the torrents every week.


38 posted on 05/19/2012 7:42:23 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

download thru torrents? it sounds so.....shady


39 posted on 05/19/2012 7:45:19 PM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: WackySam

Then by all means, expand upon your idea and show why only an idiot would believe this. It’s enough to say, but can you support the idea?


40 posted on 05/19/2012 7:50:17 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: mrsmith
There’s no accounting for taste, I love the old shows- Perry Mason, whatever.

Without a doubt. We're all different. Perry Mason is way before my time. Literally long before my time. I wasn't even a twinkle then. I look at television from that period, Leave it to Beaver, Dick Van Dyke, I Love Lucy with sort of a morbid fascination as to why anyone would willingly sit down and actually watch it. My children however love it, but more in a MST3K kind of way than a true appreciation.

41 posted on 05/19/2012 7:56:21 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: AmonAmarth

That’s because it’s theft.


42 posted on 05/19/2012 8:03:39 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

I find the old children-oriented shows- and most shows tried to appeal to the whole family back in the three-channels days- aren’t very interesting.

But the ‘adult shows’ that came on after 9 o’clock hold up very well.

I have a question about this streaming issue: is it the bytes or the bytes/sec that is the problem? Or both?


43 posted on 05/19/2012 8:06:50 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

More bytes per second, but to some degree total data as well. Just not as important. I know that internet providers have looked at returning to peak hour models, similar to what phone providers now use. As to if they seriously considered it and rejected it, are still considering, or just laughed their asses off at the prospect, I couldn’t tell you.


44 posted on 05/19/2012 8:13:21 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: netmilsmom
What is a "six"? [Transation of "roku"...]
45 posted on 05/19/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Melas

Supply lags an increasing demand; that’s typically what’s seen in capitalism. But I’d been hearing about all this unlit transnational fiber for years. I think it’s great that something is finding a way to light it up. All manner of business will be fed from it, if liberals don’t bollix it up with demands for cheap streaming video to all, now.

And in the meantime, video streaming services will probably find a way of doing localized mirrors coordinated with network traffic data.


46 posted on 05/19/2012 8:22:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Melas
Then by all means, expand upon your idea and show why only an idiot would believe this. It’s enough to say, but can you support the idea?

The free market, baby...

Bandwidth only gets cheaper, and people love their Netflix. Somebody will want those customers, and the rest of the providers will follow.

Maybe you could expand on why you think this *won't* happen..
47 posted on 05/19/2012 8:35:33 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: WackySam

I agree. It will be a tech boom. One which the likes of Lucent Technologies (kinda R.I.P., it’s Alcatel-Lucent now) wishes had happened a decade ago. But it’s not too late to do the economy good soon. If Mitt gets it this fall, it will probably happen during his first term.


48 posted on 05/19/2012 8:40:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: rovenstinez

Some Columbian gangster should take him for a ride.

Or worse, which I will leave to your imagination.


49 posted on 05/19/2012 8:46:20 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: WackySam

Oh it will happen, but it’s going to cost you. There are already a million solutions coming down the pike. Some will be winners, some will be losers, but none of them will be free.

That’s the free market, baby. When demand exceeds supply, the price goes up.

There isn’t a provider out there that is prepared for 50% of it’s base to start using 100+ gigabytes a month, but everyone knows that it’s coming. They’ve built a pricing model that is based on subscribers using half that, and it won’t last. It’s the free market, baby, and consumers love their Netflix enough to pay.

I’ll make you another prediction right now. Those new services that are springing up left and right, like HBO GO, and Showtime Online? Expect to see cable providers exempt those from the monthly data caps that are coming.


50 posted on 05/19/2012 8:53:26 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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