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Gay activists to Obama: What’s next? (Man marrying a donkey?)
Politico ^ | 5/20/2012 | By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE

Posted on 05/20/2012 5:17:57 AM PDT by tobyhill

President Barack Obama’s embrace of same-sex marriage was a major moment for gay-rights advocates — historic, emotional, a cause for celebration and more praise for an administration with a strong record on these issues.

But they’re already starting to ask what’s next.

There’s no shortage of items on the wish list: Repealing the Defense of Marriage Act. Extending Social Security benefits for gay partners. Changing regulations on deporting immigrants in same-sex marriages.

There’s the one that’s sparked the most anger and confusion because it’s seen as an easy fix — an executive order banning LGBT workplace discrimination.

There’s a new one after a House vote Wednesday, when Republicans blocked LGBT protections in the Violence Against Women Act. There are upcoming votes to legalize gay marriage in Maine, Maryland and Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; swrdswllwngsdshw

1 posted on 05/20/2012 5:18:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
A government paid clinic so they can have a baby factory so they can have children just like heterosexuals.

What is it about "parts" and "propogation" that they don't understand???

2 posted on 05/20/2012 5:37:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill

At the core of this issue is the definition of what causes homosexuality. Is it genetic or something else? If it is genetic, then why hasn’t it evolved out of existence since gays don’t produce children via their relationships. If it is not genetic, then are the rights being demanded by gays different from rights others receive and therefore a special case?


3 posted on 05/20/2012 5:40:52 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (If you mute Obama, you'll have a more accurate view of life in America.)
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To: MulberryDraw

They don’t reproduce, they recruit.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 5:43:42 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: tobyhill

5 posted on 05/20/2012 5:44:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: tobyhill

Polygamy. It’s actually happening in the lesbian community. We ran into it in 1998 at the kids’ daycare. Two women pulled their nephew (raising him) because they were inviting a third woman into the relationship and she was going to stay home with the kids as a condition of adoption of the nephew.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 5:45:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: tobyhill
Having sex with your animal mate can be touchy, but bestiality proponents need not fear: marrying and loving your livestock will be legal soon and make as much sense as a man marrying a man or a fireplug.

Enumclaw horse sex case

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Enumclaw horse sex case was a 2005 incident in which Kenneth Pinyan[1] (June 22, 1960 – July 2, 2005), an American Boeing engineer residing in Gig Harbor,[2] died from receiving anal sex with a stallion at a farm in an unincorporated area in King County, Washington, near the city of Enumclaw. He had videotaped previous sex acts with the horses and distributed them informally under the name Mr. Hands.

During a July 2005 sex act, videotaped by a friend, he suffered a perforated colon and later died of his injuries. The story was reported in The Seattle Times and was one of that paper's most read stories of 2005.[3] It was informally referred to as the "Enumclaw horse sex case".

Pinyan's death rapidly prompted the passing of a bill in Washington prohibiting both sex with animals and the videotaping of the same. Under current Washington law, bestiality is now a Class C felony punishable by up to five years in prison.>p> A documentary of the life and death of Pinyan, and the life led by those who came to the farm near Enumclaw, debuted at the Sundance Film Festival 2007 under the title Zoo. It was one of 16 winners out of 856 candidates for the festival,[6] and played at numerous regional festivals in the United States thereafter.[7] Following Sundance, it was also selected as one of the top five American films to be presented at the prestigious Directors Fortnight sidebar at the 2007 Cannes Film Festival.

Death

The incident occurred at a 40-acre (16 ha) farm,[10] located in an unincorporated area in King County, Washington,[11] northwest of the city of Enumclaw.[10] Pinyan, and a man named James Michael Tait (who lived in a trailer next to the farm), plus another unidentified man, often visited the farm to engage in sexual intercourse with the horses inside.

Prosecutors later determined that the horse, an Arabian stallion nicknamed "Big Dick" by the participants,[11][12] had not been injured by being allowed to engage in sex in this manner.[11] According to the Medical Examiner's Office, Pinyan "died of acute peritonitis due to perforation of the colon", and the death was ruled accidental.

Other factors surrounding the death were apparently that the deceased, concerned about appearing in a hospital with an unusual internal injury and the effect on his security clearance as an engineer for aerospace company Boeing, had apparently refused his friends' urging to go to the hospital for several hours after being aware he was internally injured.[citation needed] He was anonymously dropped off at the Enumclaw Community Hospital.[10][14] On July 2, 2005, a man asked hospital staff for medical assistance for his companion. Pinyan was found dead in the emergency room. The man who brought Pinyan into the hospital had disappeared by the time hospital staff came to contact him.

Media reports at the time of the trial suggested that despite seizing and examining carefully a large number of such videos from the property, no evidence of injury to the horses was found, precluding animal cruelty charges, and that the trespass charge against Tait were brought due to lack of grounds for any other matter.

It was only after Pinyan died, when law enforcement looked for one way to punish his associates, that the legality of bestiality in Washington State became an issue [...] The prosecutor's office wanted to charge Tait with animal abuse, but the police found no evidence of abused animals on the many videotapes they collected from his home. As there was no law against humanely fucking one horse, the prosecutors could only charge Tait with trespassing.

The prosecutor's office says no animal cruelty charges were filed because there was no evidence of injury to the horses.

Investigation

After Pinyan died, the authorities used his driver's license to find acquaintances and relatives. Earlier news reports stated that the authorities had used surveillance camera footage to track down Pinyan's companion. Using the contacts, the authorities found the farm where the incident occurred.

Media reporting

Jennifer Sullivan, a Seattle Times staff reporter, said that originally the King County Sheriff's Department did not expect the newspaper to report on the event, because "it was too gruesome." After an Associated Press report stated that the farm where the event occurred attracted "a significant number of people" who wanted to partake in bestiality, the Seattle Times decided that it needed to write articles about the case, since multiple people were involved.

The media outlets that reported the story withheld Pinyan's name. His name was revealed on national radio by talk show host Tom Leykis in the summer of 2005.[citation needed] A video of Pinyan engaging in sexual acts with a horse circulated around the internet after Pinyan's death.

Criminal charges, guilty plea, and sentencing

The photographer, 54-year-old James Michael Tait,[11] was charged with criminal trespassing in the first degree, because the owners of the farm, a third party, were not aware that the men entered the property to engage in bestiality. The third man was not charged since he was not visible in the videos seized by investigators. Tait pleaded guilty, and Judge David Christie gave him a suspended one year sentence, a $300 fine, and one day of community service. The judge ordered Tait to never visit the farm again.

Aftermath

After Pinyan died,[1] Pam Roach, a member of the Washington State Senate and a Republican from Auburn, crafted a bill that would ban bestiality in Washington State.[16] Senate Bill 6417, which made bestiality a Class C felony, passed on February 11, 2006 with all 36 state senators voting for it. Bestiality had been legal in Washington state for 117 years, until the passing of the bill. Charles Mudede of The Stranger said "It was an almost comically easy law to pass." Bestiality had no political support in Washington state, and no group in Washington state advocated for bestiality.[1] The law is RCW 16.52.205(3). Mudede said that reading RCW 16.52.205 "is very much like reading hardcore porn." In addition, the law prohibits "videotap[ing] a person engaged in a sexual act or sexual contact with an animal" "either alive or dead." Because of the provision against videotaping, Mudede said that the law "points an angry finger directly at James Tait."

In 2009 Tait and two other people were jailed in Maury County, Tennessee, accused of engaging in bestiality.[18] In January 2010 Tait pleaded guilty in a Tennessee court to engaging in sexual acts with animals, and he was placed on probation.

7 posted on 05/20/2012 5:48:39 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: tobyhill

Many westerners pick on the muslims claiming they have contributed nothing to civilization excepting strapping homemade bombs on women and children and blowing up as many non-believers as possible.

This is not true!

The greatest contribution to humanity was made back in 1504 when a clever muslim found that the lower intestine of a sheep made a marvelous contraceptive.

In 1854 a British scientist improved the muslim idea by removing the small intestine from the animal.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 6:01:55 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Sacajaweau
Queers rioting and blacks looting in the confusion will do wonders for Obumbles election hopes.
9 posted on 05/20/2012 6:04:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: tobyhill

That is the key question: what’s next? And after that, what’s next? And then, what’s next?

When I was a youth, the question out of that community was “Will you stop actively persecuting me?”

Attempting to be a just person, I recognized that persecuting somebody was not appropriate.

“Will you just leave us alone”?

Realizing that I should mind my own business, I recognized that what a person did in the privacy of his own bedroom was none of my business.

Then the question was, “will you tolerate me?”

Well, I recognized that, in a workplace, if you don’t push your life on me, I really shouldn’t push it on you. After all, if it doesn’t pertain to work, why is it even brought up at work?

Then the question was, “will you accept me?”

Now, the question is, “will you grant me full moral equivalence?”

And so, now I ask the question...what’s next? (repeat for 1,000 iterations)


10 posted on 05/20/2012 6:07:08 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: RoosterRedux

Legalize marrying a donkey? That would qualify as advancing the cause of Islam, BO would be for that I’d expect.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 6:07:36 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: IbJensen

This is something that never occurred to me: “bestial necrophilia.” Being progressive means pushing the limits of tolerance. After the homosexual marriage victory, what next? See you at the bestial necrophilia pride parade.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 6:18:13 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: AppyPappy

Sister Wives is a popular tv show. I always thought this was illegal. Sick world we’re living in.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 6:23:56 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: wrencher

Hey if it’s good enough for Michelle then it should be good enough for Anyone


14 posted on 05/20/2012 6:24:04 AM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: tobyhill
What’s next? (Man marrying a donkey?)

Why not?

We already have an ass in the white House.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 6:33:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: tobyhill
what's next??? the children, that's what...
16 posted on 05/20/2012 6:38:14 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FES0844

Mammals can only evolve heterosexually.

Humans are mammals.

Babies are born regardless of marriage.

The truth of Genesis.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 6:40:10 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Vehmgericht

Sharia law specifies that a husband may have sexual activity with his wife up to six hours after death.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:41 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: MulberryDraw

Marriage is a religious rite, not a civil right.

Monogamy is a tenet of religion.

All men are born of a woman.

Prohibition of polyandry and polygyny is an ecclesiastic rule of law.

In your unabridged Oxford Dictionaries, the word “faggotry” denotes the bundling of steel to be hammered or rolled together.

To establish an ecclesiastic standard of monogamy for homosexuals is nothing but RELIGIOUS FAGGOTRY.


19 posted on 05/20/2012 6:43:46 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sacajaweau

“A government paid clinic so they can have a baby factory so they can have children just like heterosexuals.”
Perverted homosexuals cannot produce children. The main reason homosexuality is a perversion. Nature made it that way for a reason.


20 posted on 05/20/2012 6:47:48 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: DMG2FUN
“A government paid clinic so they can have a baby factory so they can have children just like heterosexuals.” Perverted homosexuals cannot produce children. The main reason homosexuality is a perversion. Nature made it that way for a reason.

First contraception, and now homosexual "marriage," have separated marriage from the marital act. This step is logical, given the unnatural and irrational assumptions.

21 posted on 05/20/2012 6:54:05 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: DMG2FUN

That’s what I’m saying...It’ll be a sperm and egg factory....funded by US!!


22 posted on 05/20/2012 6:55:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MulberryDraw
If it is genetic, then why hasn’t it evolved out of existence since gays don’t produce children via their relationships.

In primitive societies you might have a polygamous system, where the wealthy/powerful take multiple wives. If the losers can satisfy themselves with homosexuality, then you have less strife.

23 posted on 05/20/2012 6:56:05 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: tobyhill

Affirmative action and mandatory quotas for gays in employment and government contracts.

Departments of Gay Studies and Gay History in colleges.

Mandatory loans to gay businesses and individuals as part of Community Development.

Lots of law suits charging discrimination against gays - particularly on the part of religious institutions.

Wholesale revision of government and classroom texts that refer to a husband as male or a wife as female.

Revision of classroom texts to include the historical contributions of gays - in a positive way, of course.

A special postage stamp or special month to commemorate gay history.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 6:56:23 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Sacajaweau

Pedophilia is next... Watch and see.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 7:27:18 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: tobyhill

Sharia law allows necrophilia up to 6 hours after the wife dies.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 7:47:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: tobyhill
"There are upcoming votes to legalize gay marriage in Maine, Maryland and Washington."

THIS IS BULL$HIT!!!

The article uses this line to create "momentum" in the story, (i.e. Look at all the things positive happening towards homosexual marriage), but the truth is that these votes are to END homosexual marriage, not promote it.

Even in liberal Maryland, thousands are flocking to petition locations to get the ANTI-homosexual marriage amendment onto the ballot.

27 posted on 05/20/2012 7:59:01 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: tobyhill
i want to marry my guppy

we're very much in love.

we're also thinking about children. but i have a condition that would require us to seek a surrogate father. but we love each other so much, i'm sure we can make it work.

of course, i would expect to house and feed all our dependents children, as i am a hard working man and dedicated father.

btw, as we expect a very large family... 2 or 3 hundred... how much can i get assistance will we receive if i come on hard times? $1k/mon per child? what about grandkids also living under my roof?

28 posted on 05/20/2012 8:10:04 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: tobyhill
But they’re already starting to ask what’s next.

Of course they are, it was totally predictable. Once you change the very definition of "marriage", then what is stopping it from being changed again? Polygamy will be the next step. Nothing special about one man and one woman being a married couple; what is so special about the number of people involved. It's all about "love", and who are they hurting? After polygamy, I think we naturally move to group marriages. And, I would not dismiss codifying beastiality into the marriage code.

Because of this one change, all other changes will come and rapidly.

29 posted on 05/20/2012 8:33:57 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Pedophilia is next... Watch and see.

The psychiatric community is already renaming "pedophilia" to "intergenerational sex". This is to take away the judgemental nature of the word "pedophilia", and thus the beginning of "normalizing" adults having sex with children.

30 posted on 05/20/2012 8:39:33 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: tobyhill

I wish to marry my mother as she is a widow and will have half her estate confiscated on her demise. I see marriage as a means to avoiding that unpleasantness.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 8:45:08 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: MulberryDraw

I don’t think the liberals want us to ask what causes homosexuality.

Lady Gag has sung to us that they are “born that way”. Case closed, as far as liberals are concerned. We’re not allowed to ask what causes this condition, whether it’s “normal”, because liberals have decided we need to normalize this condition.

We can’t talk about whether it’s harmful, because it’s homophobic to talk about AIDS and other VD spread by homosexual behavior.

The liberals rules of speaking about issues makes it hard to even raise the questions about causes and issues with homosexual behavior.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 8:54:51 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RoosterRedux

In 1432 Arab moslems invented the condom by using the lower intestine of a goat.

In 1837 the British improved on the invention by removing the lower intestine from the goat.

When are the moslems going to learn this new idea?


33 posted on 05/20/2012 9:41:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We’re not allowed to ask what causes this condition, whether it’s “normal”, because liberals have decided we need to normalize this condition.

Exactly, ‘not allowed to ask’ means game over. Perverts win.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 10:31:24 AM PDT by delcopatriot (Defeat Obamatollah and his czars!)
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To: tobyhill

It doesn’t really matter what’s next. Something will be next since the precedent has been set, and human nature is such that it is always pushing the envelope of behavior against limitations.

Somewhere, someone is planning the next redefinition of marriage. It’s not for us who oppose the initial redefinition - same sex - to predict what comes next. Someone is already taking care of it. Eventually, it may even get to the point that the same sex activists will see that any definition of marriage will ultimately be meaning less, and some of them might even oppose redefinition at some point. Too late.

That is their legacy. And it’s not accidental. It’s been a calculated assault from day one. Destroy the traditional foundations of society and you get to redefine society.


35 posted on 05/20/2012 11:53:28 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: tobyhill

Next you will be able to have more than one: a same sex one and an opposite sex one. Won’t that be fun?


36 posted on 05/20/2012 1:04:28 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama's favorite tactic is scapegoating successful Americans.)
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To: tobyhill

I haven’t followed this issue closely.

Has anyone brought up the “Mormon Connection?”

If several women love the same man, what plausible argument can now be made that the law should forbid polygamy?


37 posted on 05/20/2012 7:34:29 PM PDT by zeestephen
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