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Fast and Furious: Why Eric Holder Will Lose the Legal Fight
Big Government ^ | May 17, 2012 | Ken Klukowski

Posted on 05/21/2012 11:32:31 AM PDT by neverdem

Federal courts could soon decide a fight between Congress and Attorney General Eric Holder on the Operation Fast and Furious gun-running scandal. If Republicans persevere, this is a battle that Holder should lose in what would be a humiliating defeat for President Barack Obama. 

Most Americans have now heard that our government allowed drug cartels to illegally smuggle thousands of guns from the U.S. into Mexico. The National Rifle Association has relentlessly pursued the White House and Department of Justice (DOJ) about Fast and Furious for over a year, and the massive gun-rights organization has only increased its focus in recent months. 

But in addition to decrying the gun-smuggling activity, the NRA has been pushing for information regarding who knew what in the administration, and any related political objectives being pursued by Team Obama. 

Chris Cox, the NRA’s chief lobbyist, declared at the organization’s annual meeting in April: “The Obama administration poured gasoline on the raging fire of murder and mayhem on our southwest border. But to cover their tracks they tried to blame NRA members and the Second Amendment.” 

Cox then added, “According to their internal emails, it was all to advance their gun-control agenda.”

Although the silence of the Democrat-controlled Senate could give the impression that Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer, and Pat Leahy want to pretend that Fast and Furious never happened, the Republican-led House picked up on the NRA’s charges and launched an aggressive investigation. 

Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, is leading the charge against Holder in Congress. Yet Holder is refusing to release literally tens of thousands of pages of documents, or provide testimony regarding high-ranking officials potentially involved in this scandal that resulted in the death of multiple federal agents. So now Issa is pursuing a contempt citation against Holder...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; corruption; dea; democrats; dhs; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdertruthfile; ice; issa; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; obamatruthfile; terry; zapata
Legal niceties aside, besides all the crimes involved, this was supposed to be an "under the radar" political assault on the Second Amendment. About three quarters of Americans believe in the right to keep and bear arms the last time I saw numbers, IIRC, about the time of the Heller decision. As a minimum, Holder must be impeached! Let the Senate deal with removal after Labor Day.
1 posted on 05/21/2012 11:32:46 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
the NRA has been pushing for information regarding who knew what in the administration,

Something like this could only have been approved at the highest, "feet on the desk in the oval office" level. Try to imagine who else could have had the cajones to make this sort of decision.

2 posted on 05/21/2012 11:47:07 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: neverdem

Cox then added, “According to their internal emails, it was all to advance their gun-control agenda.”
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I would be willing to bet that this FACT is known to 95% of Freepers and 5% of the general public.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 11:51:27 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for keeping this going. See Tag. EVERYTHING else is a diversion!! And it leads to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


4 posted on 05/21/2012 12:01:37 PM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: neverdem

I’m sorry, ‘Most Americans have heard’?

Only Americans (and Brits) who follow internet blogs know about this scandal. The average basement dwelling lib knows nothing, hears nothing, sees nothing - I bet if I asked my few Dem friends what they know about it, they would have no response.


5 posted on 05/21/2012 12:03:03 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: neverdem

If there’s a subpoena, then the question is: who’s going to enforce it? Can you get the Justice Department to arrest Eric Holder? I think not. That’s the problem with trying to enforce a subpoena against the arm of government which is supposed to enforce the law.


6 posted on 05/21/2012 12:16:08 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: InterceptPoint
I would be willing to bet that this FACT is known to 95% of Freepers and 5% of the general public.

I'm afraid you're right.

7 posted on 05/21/2012 12:17:48 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: neverdem
“According to their internal emails, it was all to advance their gun-control agenda.

Does anyone know how this was suppose to work? So, was the fact that thousands of guns were in Mexico that came from the U.S. suppose to lead to gun-control measures? And "the plan" depended on no investigation of how the guns got to Mexico?

On its surface, this has got to be the most asshat plan ever disclosed. One needs to wonder what else hasn't come to the surface in the last 3+ years.

I Obama is re-elected, America is screwed with no recovery for decades, if ever.

8 posted on 05/21/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by unique1
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To: neverdem

With the murder of hundreds, perhaps thousands of Mexican nationals the dims still believe they are going to get the hispanic vote. Look for a GOP October surprise to stir the anger of hispanics against the DNC.


9 posted on 05/21/2012 12:49:52 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: unique1; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; ..
That is the Marxists Plan....

Their other plan is Green Jobs...and the Global Warming Hoax.

10 posted on 05/21/2012 12:51:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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Both are about seizing control of the population.


11 posted on 05/21/2012 12:53:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: unique1
So, was the fact that thousands of guns were in Mexico that came from the U.S. suppose to lead to gun-control measures?

Yup, the UN Small Arms Treaty.

12 posted on 05/21/2012 1:00:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"That is the Marxists Plan....Their other plan is Green Jobs...and the Global Warming Hoax."
Dittos.
13 posted on 05/21/2012 1:15:21 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: neverdem

BTTT


14 posted on 05/21/2012 1:18:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: unique1
This article should provide you the context you seek.
15 posted on 05/21/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: neverdem
When Holder loses, send him to the super-max prison for a long stay!
16 posted on 05/21/2012 2:38:20 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: neverdem
Federal courts could soon...

Key words: Could and soon

I'll believe it when it happens.

17 posted on 05/21/2012 3:16:39 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

>Key words: Could and soon
>I’ll believe it when it happens.

Indeed.


18 posted on 05/21/2012 4:35:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SandRat

“When Holder loses, send him to the super-max prison for a long stay!”

Amen!!!

We are all waiting for this to happen..... Then Obama will be next!!


19 posted on 05/21/2012 9:44:43 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Fractal Trader

If there’s a subpoena, then the question is: who’s going to enforce it? Can you get the Justice Department to arrest Eric Holder?


You are looking at this from the wrong point of view.

If Holder refuses the Subpoena, the next step is for the House to Cite him for Contempt of Congress.

The next step after that is for the House to vote to Impeach him for being in Contempt, with a trial by the Senate.

At some point in this process, the MSM has to start reporting it to the public. And then the Senate Democrats have to record a public vote. And Obama has to decide whether it would be better to fire Holder rather than put the Senate Democrats on the spot just before an election.

The Democrats know this ... and do not want it to happen.


20 posted on 05/23/2012 9:14:43 AM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

I agree that impeachment is a means by which to punish Holder. All I was trying to indicate was that, prior to impeachment, the Contempt of Congress citation is toothless.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 11:10:49 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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