Skip to comments.Pat Buchanan: What If Zimmerman Walks Free?
Posted on 05/21/2012 9:47:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Three months ago, George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla., shot and killed Trayvon Martin.
Handcuffed, taken in and interrogated, Zimmerman told police Trayvon had been acting suspiciously that dark and rainy night, that he had followed Trayvon, been knocked down and battered on the ground, and, fearing for his life, pulled a concealed handgun and shot him.
Sanford police and prosecutors concluded that Zimmerman acted in self-defense and had not committed a provable felony. They let him go.
A racial firestorm followed. "Blacks are under attack," railed Jesse Jackson. "Killing us is big business." Arriving in Sanford, the reverend dialed it up. Trayvon was "shot down in cold blood by a vigilante ... murdered and martyred."
Rep. Maxine Waters' charge of "hate crime" was echoed by radio talker Joe Madison. Rep. Hank Johnson said Trayvon had been "executed." The Grio compared his killing to the lynching of Emmett Till in Mississippi in 1955.
The New Black Panther Party put Zimmerman's face on a "Wanted Dead or Alive" poster, called for 5,000 black men to run him down and said Trayvon had been "murdered in cold blood."
Spike Lee twittered Zimmerman's home address.
Zimmerman and his family have been in hiding for months in fear for their lives after the death threats.
President Obama expressed his empathy with the parents.
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And I think (the parents) are right to expect that all of us as Americans are gonna take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened."
Obama said not a word to cool the lynch-mob atmosphere created by some of his major allies in a nation where he is the chief law enforcement officer. And so the campaign to convict Zimmerman of racist murder in the public mind, before he ever got to trial, proceeded on.
Rep. Jan Schakowsky called Trayvon's killing a "modern-day lynching." CNN claimed to have picked up the phrase "(bleeping) coons" on the tape of Zimmerman's call to police, but had to retract when an enhanced version of the tape revealed no such slur.
Three times NBC used a version of Zimmerman's call to the police edited to make it appear he racially profiled Trayvon.
The actual version:
Zimmerman: "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about."
Dispatcher: "OK, and this guy, is he white, black or Hispanic?"
Zimmerman: "He looks black."
The transcript was spliced to have Zimmerman say: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."
CNN media critic Howard Kurtz called it "blatant distortion."
Caught and called out, three NBC employees were cashiered.
With this wind at her back, Florida State Attorney Angela Corey charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder. Translation: Zimmerman murdered Trayvon in a "depraved" state of mind.
If convicted, he could get life.
Last week came a more ominous report. Federal investigators are looking into hate crime charges that could bring the death penalty. The feds would have to prove Zimmerman stalked and murdered Trayvon because he was black.
Yet, last week also, evidence from the investigation spilled out into the national media and seemed to contradict and swamp the prosecution's case.
A medical report the day after the shooting revealed that Zimmerman had suffered a broken nose, two black eyes and lacerations on the back of his head. Photographs from the night of the shooting confirmed it.
A police report that same night said Zimmerman's sweatshirt had "grass stains and was wet on the back," consistent with his being flat on his back.
The lead investigator on the scene, Officer Christopher Serino, wrote that Zimmerman could be heard "yelling for help as he was being battered by Trayvon Martin." One witness said he heard 14 separate cries for help. Trayvon's father initially told police the cries were not those of his son, then recanted.
One responder at the scene said he saw wounds on the knuckles of one of Trayvon's hands, suggesting he had connected with a punch. The coroner found both the knuckle wounds and traces of the drug found in marijuana in Trayvon's blood and urine.
Trayvon's hoodie had powder stains indicating he was shot in the chest from 1 to 18 inches away, consistent again with what Zimmerman said.
Another eyewitness said the guy in the hoodie was on top beating the guy on the bottom "MMA style" -- mixed martial arts style.
With this evidence, how can a jury convict Zimmerman of murder?
Yet the public mind has been so poisoned that an acquittal of George Zimmerman could ignite a reaction similar to that, 20 years ago, when the Simi Valley jury acquitted the LAPD cops in the Rodney King beating case.
Should that happen, those who fanned the flames, and those who did nothing to douse them, should themselves go on trial in the public arena.
“He had been out of his truck for quite some time and headed back to it when advised by the 911 dispatcher We dont need you to do that.
And what does “we don’t need you to do that” even mean? It’s very ambiguous language, with no clear meaning — at a time when clear, unambiguous language is necessary. Taken literally, the dispatcher just told Zimmerman what “we” (the police) don’t need. There was no command there (not that the dispatcher had the authority to issue a command), there wasn’t even an advisory.
If this is at all representative of the way police dispatchers communicate; then they need a course in communication skills.
This poor guy’s life is ruined. If he goes free, he’ll get lynched(for lack of a better word). If he goes to prison, he’ll be eaten alive. No matter what happens with his trial, I hope he sues whatever news organization that distorted his words on that recording into oblivion. That carefully edited tape greatly increased the level of danger he and his family are in.
And the term "hate crime " is just stupid. As opposed to what, a "love crime"? Why is white even brought up? (Yeah, I know, they needed a story with an evil white guy). Now it looks like black on Hispanic crime.
But, all rioting must be towards whites, dontcha know.
He wasn’t even talking to a police trained dispatcher. They’re 911 operators that can read cards on how to do CPR and some are pretty stupid. Not all. They sit around and answer emergency phone calls, no real world experience.
Plus, Mr. Zimmerman is either 1/8th or 1/4th black, muddying the waters even more. And his father is Protestant, not Jewish, as if that somehow matters.
It's like the Bull's championships back in the 90s. The running joke was to start taking orders for flat screen TVs early. Travon would be an outstanding excuse to riot and loot.
What are the laws there concerning firearms ownership for non-citizen residents?
Worst case is a hung jury with the vote divided on racial lines. The media and race batters will create a frenzy.. Holder and the DOJ will jump in with both feet. There won’t be a news report about the economy for months.
Why does Pat use Zimmerman’s last name and Martin’s first name?
This being liberal FL, didn’t Terri Schiavo pave the way for the ultimate execution of Zimmerman? Who could have much faith in the “justice” system of FL?
“The Reichstag fire they have been waiting for?”
It would doom Obama’s re-election bid; he is the one (half) black that whites could even the score with anonymously.
Please excuse me, but there was no 911 call.
Zimmerman called the non-emergency number and spoke with a non-emergency dispatcher. The City of Sanford issued a statement to this effect in March. The charging affidavit for Second-Degree Murder makes this clear, differentiating between Zimmerman's call to a dispatcher and the other "911 calls."
Zimmerman was advised by a non-emergency, non-911, police dispatcher.
There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongspartly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays.
Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.
-Booker T. Washington
If Zimmerman walks, they’ll burn down their own neighborhoods.
CCW accompanies me everywhere.
Nothing will happen.
Pat Buchanan is a nut that doesn’t deserve to have an article posted onm this forum. This article is plagerized from a half dozen other articles. There is nothing new here and his point is in the headline, so its not worth reading imo.
FR should not be associated with Pat the kook.
So true - until we meet their violence with even greater violence, they will continue to become more brazen and more injustice will be done. Far too many, supposedly right-minded people, would sacrifice George for the "greater good". The greater good would be better served by freeing George and quelling any resultant violence with "indiscrimiinate" force. Until we are willing to do so, it will grow until it becomes an actual and defined war.
You make it sound so enticing!
I'm sticking out for a house "not made with hands" — it never needs maintenance, and it will never go "underwater".
But this is the immortal meme, doncha know. Or, maybe, the undead meme, because it eats the brains of the living.
So don't confuse us with facts.
Which is what Obama wants.
Do not be surprised if, on election day, there is a strong effort to intimidate white people into not going to the polls.
Which is a brilliant response.
Look, why are we babysitting a handful of self-entitled emotional 4 year-olds? Folks of ALL ethnic persuasions will steer clear of the thing, and the stupidest of that lot will loot and burn down their neighborhoods.
What do the rest of us have to do with that? Let them, for crying out loud. They'll reap what they sow, and we can hope maybe they'll learn something in the process.
I wouldn’t want to be on the jury that acquits him. If there are any black members on the jury, and there will be, it will be a hung jury at best.
How's that grab ya?
Whether Zimmerman walks free or not will be decided when it is determined why Zimmerman got out of his car.
I voted for Pat in 2000.
I say let ‘em riot, but tell them in advance that monthly entitlement payments will redirected to pay for the cleanup afterwards.””
What monthly entitlement payments?
Let them fend for themselves.
Bury them in pauper graves.
Make all who survive re-apply for all those benefits.
Add mandatory drug testing, at a minimum of 8 week intervals. Don’t show up? Don’t pass the tests? Not one penny more. Don’t even feed them as homeless.
By the time we survive riots, martial law, possible civil war 2 here, we won’t be so anxious to keep appeasing the troublemakers, IMO.
Did you work on the anti semite’s campaign when he did run for president on the kook ticket?
Have sentencing 2 days before welfare payday. Offices being closed on welfare payday stopped the la riots.””””
In those days, welfare was received by checks in the mail, or by picking up the checks at local offices.
Today, welfare recipients have a DEBIT CARD type of money transfer. So do unemployment recipients.
Their payments are transfered electronically into an account and money can be taken out via ATM or by making purchases with the debit card.
They don’t have to actually go outside anymore to get their money. Only to spend it.
Stop with your anti Jew babble...You guys have beat that to death, over and over and over.
Ha, ha! We’re all wrong and you’re right! I get it! Look it up. Buchanan is a holocaust denier. He admired Hitler, except for his, you know, crimes against humanity and such. He is right about some things, but he is still a kook that couldn’t get elected dog catcher.
So keep ‘em coming dragnet, I’ve got all day.
BULLSH*T!! Since when do we have to cower in our vehicles when we see suspicious individuals in our neighborhoods?! Mr. Zimmermman, unlike “little 9 year old Trayvon Martin” lives in that community!! He was ASKED by his neighbors to start a neighborhood watch program. He was not on neighborhood watch at the time, by the way, he was headed to the store, but then he saw a person casing houses in the rain and investigated. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that he had no right to watch and report to the police a suspicious character? If that’s the case, we’re so bound up in political correctness that we won’t survive as a nation!!
I’m just saying this might be what decides it. I’m not commenting on who was in the right.
If Zimmerman gets aquitted???
[queue music] “Happy Days are here again!!! The Skies above are clear again...”
“Let the thugs know if they attack, that we will defend ourselves and thats a fact...”
da da da dada, dada daaaa da da...
If there are any blacks on the jury, they will be conservative.
The decense and prosecution each get a number of free dismissals, but the defense can dismiss as many as they like if they show cause and there are a number of questions they can ask which will bring the marxists out into the light.
[[A police report that same night said Zimmerman’s sweatshirt had “grass stains and was wet on the back,” consistent with his being flat on his back.]]
Well everyone knows that when you’re on gtop of someone beatign the crap out of them you alwaqys get grassd stains on the BACK of your sweatshirt, AND you always get laceratiosn to the BACK of your head and you always get a broken nose to boot!
[[The lead investigator on the scene, Officer Christopher Serino, wrote that Zimmerman could be heard “yelling for help as he was being battered by Trayvon Martin.” One witness said he heard 14 separate cries for help. Trayvon’s father initially told police the cries were not those of his son, then recanted.]]
Yep and now ALL the witnesses are changign hteir stories too-
[[If he doesn’t, we live in an evil fascist state where any one of us could be the next George Zimmerman.]]
Get ready for it-
[[Yet the public mind has been so poisoned that an acquittal of George Zimmerman could ignite a reaction similar to that, 20 years ago, when the Simi Valley jury acquitted the LAPD cops in the Rodney King beating case. ]]
‘Could ignite a reaction’? Will ignite a reaction- the black comunity will accept nothjing less that a conviction- If george is not convicted, then be prepared to live as though we are in mexico with drug cartels roaming hte streets looking for people to kill- if you’re white, you’re goign to be the target- Regardless of the fact that george is not white- the media made him white, and white folks, in them inds of all those who have hyped this travesty of justice, must pay- period- The black comunity and the main stream media haVE already decided george’s fate, and if anyhtign else happens, there’s goign to be hell to pay- the left NEVER likes to be proven wrong- they get really really nasty when they are proven wrong
Oh, and if george is found not guilty, and obama loses the next election- WOW! Watch out!
[[President Obama expressed his empathy with the parents.]]
But yet obamamama cares not one iota for the parents and family of george zimmerman who are now hiding out in fear for their lives for months on end- Hell- obamamama even fueled the fire that forced them into hiding- He hasn’t come out even once to call for calm and to quell the hatred for whites- not once!
What a swell president we have- such a class act-
[[And what does we dont need you to do that even mean? Its very ambiguous language, with no clear meaning]]
911 dispatchers don’t even have hte authority to issue a cease and disist order- they aren’t phyisically on scene and can NOT give orders to someone over hte phone because they can NOT see the circumstances involved in any particular case and hence have NO right ordering anyone to do anything!
[[ How about a hate crime against Martin on an Hispanic?]]
No no, Black folks don’t commit haTE CRIMES, ONLY WHITE FOLKS, AND APAPRENTLY NOW HISPANICS TOo, are capable of commiting hate crimes- the media won’t have it any other way
[[And the term “hate crime “ is just stupid. As opposed to what, a “love crime”?]]
[[Why is white even brought up?]]
Because whitey has to pay aND PAY and pay for what happened hundreds of years ago- white folks will NEVER be free from the past- the black comunity and the main stream media will NEVER let it happen
[[What are the laws there concerning firearms ownership for non-citizen residents?]]
‘non-citizen ‘resident’? Shouldn’t that read ‘non-citizen tresspasser?’
Also, if your an illegal alien, laws don’;t apply- you’ll be protected regardless of what you do in this country- heck, we wouldn’t want to offend anyone who isn’;t a true citizen (It’s most likely a crime for a ‘non-citizen tresspasser to have a gun on them, but heck, laws simply don’;t apply- ICE will NEVER do anyhtign about it
[[BULLSH*T!! Since when do we have to cower in our vehicles when we see suspicious individuals in our neighborhoods?!]]
GThe answer ot that of course is when they are black-
[[Are you really going to sit there and tell me that he had no right to watch and report to the police a suspicious character?]]
That’s what the black community and the main stream media are tryign to tell you by even bringign htis whole hting to court in the first place, yes-
[[If thats the case, were so bound up in political correctness that we wont survive as a nation!!]]
Bingo! That’s what the black community and hte MSM are banking on- That and ‘white guilt’-
IF zimmerman is convicted i nthis case, then this country is in serious trouble- because we as a collective nation, will not stand up agaisnt hte injustice- we will simply stand back and watch even more of our rights eroded and not really lift a figner to stop it- There may come a point where we finally do stand up agaisnt it in an actually meaningful mannner, but it’;s going to take an awefukl lot to get us to that point, but I fear that like so many nations who fell to communism or socialism etc, we will first lose even hte will to defend ourselves agaisnt such assaults agaisnt our freedoms- Hell- We’ve already tolorated states taking away our right to defend ourselves and to carry guns in most cities and municipalities- and we’ve allowed some states to make it so difficult to obtain guns that many folks don’t even bother tryingh anymore-
The left IS winning- slowly but surely-