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A good exposition of why orthodox Christianity (Bible believers) do not celebrate sodomy, no matter what Obama or the NAACP or Bishop Spong says.
1 posted on 05/22/2012 5:45:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Because a few sins have their own PACs and lobbyists


2 posted on 05/22/2012 5:47:25 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Hate the sin, love the sinner.


3 posted on 05/22/2012 5:48:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Homosexuals and illegals are both protected special races and that gives them special constitutional legal rights.

You know that the founding fathers were thinking of them specifically, just ask Ginsburg and the Wise Latino on the court, and ask the brilliant constitutional scholar Obama.

5 posted on 05/22/2012 5:52:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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The other sins aren’t foul, disease-ridden acts.


6 posted on 05/22/2012 5:53:20 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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Are conservative Christians hypocritical

That is all the farther I got. They speak for the 20% of liberals that think that the 80% do not have any rights.


7 posted on 05/22/2012 5:54:55 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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Even above and beyond Christianity, homosexuality has always been recognized by most human societies for what it is - an unnatural and disgusting act.

The Ancient Romans looked down on the acceptance of homosxuality by some Greek societies as a symbol of their cultural degeneracy. Until that is, when that evil and filthy practise had infiltrated their own and even then, open homosexuality was often regarded with disdain or amusement. One of the statements made about Julies Caesar by his political opponents was “He was every woman’s man and every man’s woman.”


9 posted on 05/22/2012 5:59:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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God wants us to be happy. Societies that countenance homosexuality cannot be happy. Hence the condemnation.


11 posted on 05/22/2012 6:00:43 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Excellent article.

"Hate the sin, love the sinner."?????

Not when the sinner is deliberately opposed to God.

12 posted on 05/22/2012 6:05:22 AM PDT by HarleyD
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The comments are very interesting. You have the “You are God, God is you” guy, the “there has never been any proof that gays choose to be gay” (I must have missed all the proof of the “gay” gene that causes them to be homosexual in the first place) and the troll who says “gays spread AIDS and cancer more than anyone and need to be removed from the US”.

What a sick, stupid society we have become.


13 posted on 05/22/2012 6:05:41 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Homosexuality, along with all other sexual sins, are nearly unique in being specifically condemened by the New Testament as well as the Old. The first council of Jerusalem, asked to advise the first Greek (i.e. non-Jewish) converts) on Christian conduct, only constrained them to: 1. avoid dietary habits that were repellent to Jewish believers and 2. abstain from all sexual immorality. The Church correctly identified sexual sin as the most serious problem facing average believers in modern society.
14 posted on 05/22/2012 6:05:45 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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It’s far worse to damage the soul than the flesh!


16 posted on 05/22/2012 6:09:44 AM PDT by tired&retired
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The Bible is written to three different audiences. Everything in the Bible, while profitable, is NOT directed at everyone (Jesus's admonition not to cast pearls before swine). 1) Most of the Old Testament is written to the Jews as a prophetic light to JC. As Paul makes clear, Christians are "new creatures," and repeatedly he notes that we are not "under the law." 2) The New Testament is written to believers, a guide book as to how to "walk by faith." Of course they are good "moral principles" for anyone, but anyone who isn't a believer simply cannot access the power of God or the Holy Spirit. 3) Sinners are addressed only in the admonitions to repent and come to Jesus. Paul repeatedly states that a sinner cannot understand the Word of God without being born again.

So, the sodomy laws were specifically written to the Jews---but here's the catch: they were repeated on several occasions to Christians in the New Testament. Therefore, they are different and set apart from "mixing" laws about cotton and wool, or meat and milk; or from shellfish, or even the jubilee laws of the Old Testament. That alone should tell people something: that the restrictions against homosexuality are so significant that they transcend BOTH Hebraic law and the "Law of Love" in the New Testament.

21 posted on 05/22/2012 6:21:15 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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” With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?”

For one thing it is not gay sex it is queer sex..Everything is queer about it..For another why do you morons in the media keep pushing this down our throat..To sell your trash for news papers..Don't blame the Christan's blame the disgusting excuses for humans that have sex like an animal..and get a thrill when they can upset a person of God.. The devil is loving ever bit of this disgusting queer thing..He will have a great reunion when the end comes..

34 posted on 05/22/2012 6:42:15 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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This is the OT vs NT strawman argument. Those that spout off ask, “why not just put to death those that are...Pick a sin,” obviously do not understand the Bible.


35 posted on 05/22/2012 6:42:30 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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“the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things.

I know Mohler knows better than this, so why is he spreading disinformation?

39 posted on 05/22/2012 6:46:15 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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With all that the Bible condemns, why the focus on gay sex and same-sex marriage?

There is no such thing as "same-sex" marriage. Two men living together are friends. Two women living together are friends. It is biologically not possible for them to be spouses. Only male and female genitalia are biologically made for union. Male/male or female/female union is defined only by sexual perversion.

I thought that everybody knew that! What has happened to our schools and common sense?

41 posted on 05/22/2012 6:47:15 AM PDT by olezip
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Given the heated nature of our current debates, it’s a question conservative Christians have learned to expect. “Look,” we are told, “the Bible condemns eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics and any number of other things. Why do you ignore those things and insist that the Bible must be obeyed when it comes to sex?”

Another one confusing the separation between the New and Old Covenants:

From Acts 11 - 4 Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story: 5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. 6 I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds. 7 Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’

8 “I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’

9 “The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’ 10 This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.

If folks are going to use the Bible to "back" their hypotheses, they need to understand there is a marked difference beteen the Old and New Covenants - much of that which was disallowed in the Old has been allowed in the New.

Just as the requirement to circumsize and perform other rituals/rites was disolved with the Blood of the Cross. We focus on the Commandments and forget that Jesus gave us the Greatest Commandment:

From Matthew 22 - 34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Or, from Mark 12 - 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”

32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

Or Romans 13 - 8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

And one must also understand that while Jesus walked the earth, He and all were still under the Old Covenant and were not living under the Grace which makes those who are saved sinless saints in God's eyes, despite our inability to think sinful thoughts or commit sinful acts.

48 posted on 05/22/2012 6:58:55 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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So much to consider in the words of Jesus Christ in Mark 6:11 when He said, “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
It was a warning, and look what places He picks as His point of comparison. At that point one is left to consider what terrible thing those cities did that put them in the eternal crosshairs. And spoken by the Christ Himself (for them that favor the red letter words).


49 posted on 05/22/2012 7:00:07 AM PDT by Texas Gal (Yay shariah. It's as great as diarrhea.)
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...now there are rumors running around that one of Americas great cultural icons, Superman; will be 'coming out of the closet' pretty soon. They are coming at us from every quarter...

I believe the first Chapter of Romans indicate that this spread of homosexuality in our culture is a judgement from G-d because we no longer acknowledge Him as Creator.

54 posted on 05/22/2012 7:08:20 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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At some point in Acts, God sent Peter a vision of a sheet filled with “unclean” animals. Peter was told to “kill and eat.” When Peter said he had never eaten anything that was unclean, God said “do not call unclean what God has made clean.”

Can anyone find a similar passage concerning homosexuality?


68 posted on 05/22/2012 7:51:34 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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