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Not content with new tax hike, Md. tobacco foe wants more
The Washington Times ^ | May 21, 2012 | David Hill

Posted on 05/22/2012 6:26:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ANNAPOLIS — Maryland health advocates are celebrating an upcoming tax increase on cigars and smokeless tobacco, but they aren’t stopping there.

Gov. Martin O'Malley, a Democrat, is expected to sign a bill Tuesday that will raise the state’s tax on non-cigarette tobacco products for the first time since 1999, in an effort to combat what state health officials say is increased use of the products among teens.

The measure is part of $260 million in tax increases that were approved during last week’s special session and will be signed into law Tuesday. About $247 million of the increases will come from an income-tax hike on the top 14 percent of earners in the state.

Efforts to raise the tax on cigars and smokeless tobacco were spearheaded by health lobbyist Vincent DeMarco, who said his next goal is to increase the state’s $2-a-pack cigarette tax to $3 and that he hopes to get it done as soon as next year.

“We are going to save thousands of young people from addiction to these products,” said Mr. DeMarco, president of the Maryland Citizens’ Health Initiative. “We are thrilled. This will be a great public health victory for the people of Maryland.”

The bill will raise the current 15 percent tax on most cigars and smokeless tobacco products, known collectively as other tobacco products (OTP).

Starting July 1, smokeless products like chewing tobacco and snuff will be subject to a 30 percent tax.

The tax on small cigars - also known as cigarillos - will rise to 70 percent. Health advocates say cigarillos have become a popular choice among teens as a result of their low cost compared with cigarettes and because of their exotic flavors, such as cherry and vanilla.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: cigarettetax; cigarillos; martinomalley; nannystate; otp; teens; tobaccotax; vincentdemarco

1 posted on 05/22/2012 6:26:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

I’m the man in Maryland
Buried in my tax
Won’t you come enslave me
Enslave me

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


2 posted on 05/22/2012 6:28:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“We are thrilled. This will be a great public health victory for the people of Maryland.”

A great victory, komrades, for Mother Maryland. More taxes will solve all problems.

3 posted on 05/22/2012 6:34:15 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Bystander "What are you protesting"? OWS "Whaddya got"?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

in an effort to combat what state health officials say is increased use of the products among teens.
...........................................................

One of the biggest lies ever told.

O’Mally doesn’t give a good damn about youth, what he wants is the money.

He called this special session to raise more taxes, anything else he says is a lie.


4 posted on 05/22/2012 6:36:07 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is prohibition-lite. Smugglers are licking their chops.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 6:38:31 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: sickoflibs

Ping


6 posted on 05/22/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why not just ban the product?

Beause the American people will apparently will put up with being boiled instead of deep-fried.

7 posted on 05/22/2012 6:47:23 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“will rise to 70%”

Choke, choke, cough, cough.

A carton Of US cigs bought outside the US, including shipping costs, goes for about $10. So let’s call that the actual cost per carton, and ignore shipping.

In MD, that same carton is about $75

That is $10, in cost, and $65 in taxes.

Then, they charge you sales taxes on the taxes. Anybody know what the MD sales tax rate is? I am guessing it is at least 5%.

So a carton of cigs is $10 in cost, and about $70 in taxes. This is a 70% tax?

New math.


8 posted on 05/22/2012 6:49:11 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

VA is $0.30 a pack, and WV is $0.55 a pack. MD is a very skinny state where “the rich” probably drive to another state frequently and can get their cigarettes for the next week or so all at once without paying even the $2.00 a pack, let alone $3.00 a pack. This is only a tax on the poor. If they wanted the poor to quit smoking, they would raise the tax quickly. The way to raise revenue is through a series of moderate tax increases, exactly what they are doing. It sounds to me like this guy wants to tax the poor. [That was both true and fun to write, since it’s how libs usually frame their comments.]


9 posted on 05/22/2012 6:54:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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“We are thrilled. This will be a great public health victory for the people of Maryland.”

A great victory, komrades, for Mother Maryland. More taxes will solve all problems.

Come to think of it, that statement does sound like a 1984 Glorious Victory for Big Brother.

Nanny State PING!

10 posted on 05/22/2012 6:56:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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11 posted on 05/22/2012 7:13:53 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
increased use of the products among teens.

This is a good tax increase in that it invokes the law of supply and demand. An increase in price will produce a decrease in demand. That's a good thing. (insert obligatory mocking "for the children" line here)

It's estimated 88% of smokers start as teens. If you don't care about teens that's fine but let me quote the great Newt from '97....

Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read.

12 posted on 05/22/2012 7:39:22 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Pollster1

I drive over the 301 Harry nice bridge and buy my Smokes wine and Gas....Screw Md and OWeMalley...Taxes are their answer to every thing and any thing!


13 posted on 05/22/2012 7:54:04 PM PDT by ustanker (You can't reach the unreachable!)
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To: Drango
Having left MD several weeks ago for Utah, I can only say: Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Maryland is the THE Freak state.
14 posted on 05/22/2012 7:57:32 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Drango; Eric Blair 2084

And yet, your priorities are stopping them from smoking, rather than to properly educate them (re: Newt Quote).

You’re a moron.


15 posted on 05/22/2012 8:01:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 05/22/2012 8:31:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What is up with these tiny states and tobacco taxes?

Rhode Island went to $3.46/tax pack in ‘09 and have been mulling about how to get the rate back down - they are losing revenue....smoke-taxes are billowing out of every nook and cranny from their house on fire.

How close is Maryland to Virginia? Isn’t it - like - right there? :>)


17 posted on 05/22/2012 8:36:55 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: ustanker
I drive over the 301 Harry nice bridge and buy my Smokes wine and Gas....Screw Md and OWeMalley...Taxes are their answer to every thing and any thing!

Not only do you pay less taxes, the ones you do pay go to support the more respectful government of a free[r] state. I make the same calculation when driving back and forth between Arizona and California.

18 posted on 05/22/2012 9:23:39 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If they were serious, they would outlaw tobacco sales. LMAO!

Think that it could happen? *choke* *spit* ROFLMAO!!!

19 posted on 05/22/2012 9:31:30 PM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ustanker
I drive over the 301 Harry nice bridge and buy my Smokes wine and Gas....Screw Md and OWeMalley...Taxes are their answer to every thing and any thing!

It might be different for a state the size of Texas, but when one of the smallest states in the country is raising their taxes from $2.00 (MUCH higher than most states) a pack to $3.00 a pack (2.5 cents short of the highest in the country), I doubt that's going to bring in much money right next to the second lowest tax rates in the country (just above Missouri's $0.17). I'm glad you're avoiding their silly tax.

20 posted on 05/23/2012 4:53:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The founders were wise. This is why states are free to make there own decisions. People will vote with their feet. MD will wither and die.

Also, the reason the “yuuts” are buying small cigars is to hollow them out and fill them back up with weed. The cigar covers up the smell. Next time you enter a urban convenience store notice all the tobacco lying around outside...


21 posted on 05/23/2012 5:53:51 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

“weed”

Just to finish that thought. The pols know this. This is the way they are trying to tax illegal drug use. This isn’t to save the yuuts, it’s to get in on some of that pusher dough. If you can’t beat them join them. Can’t arrest the little darlings for such a minor thing as drug use. That would be Raaacist. Nope. Besides, marijuana doesn’t make you violent.


22 posted on 05/23/2012 5:59:34 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Ken H

Marylanders - head West to Bethleham, PA and stock up at Cigars International. Great selection, great prices. Stock your humidor with great sticks and deny the libs your hard earned dollars.


23 posted on 05/23/2012 6:00:12 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Marylanders - head West to Bethleham, PA and stock up at Cigars International. Great selection, great prices. Stock your humidor with great sticks and deny the libs your hard earned dollars.

I am doing that for my big buys, but at the same time I will patronize my local stores just to not totally penalize them. They actually have worked hard to try and stop these f*cks who happen to govern us.

24 posted on 05/23/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Venturer
in an effort to combat what state health officials say is increased use of the products among teens give us greedy filthy so-called lawmakers more of your hard-earned dollars to waste on useless bulls*t programs

There; fixed it.

25 posted on 05/23/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: libertarian27
How close is Maryland to Virginia? Isn’t it - like - right there? :>)

In the part of Virginia I live, the Maryland line is 8 miles away.

26 posted on 05/23/2012 6:27:11 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Virginia? Nuts!

Delaware is 30 min from the Eastern Shore and has NO Sales Tax (and is generally cheaper).

27 posted on 05/23/2012 7:58:48 AM PDT by doberville
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So, ol’ Vinnie DeMarco jumped off the anti-gun (Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse, aka MAHA) gravy train when the checks stopped coming in; and now he’s jumped onto the anti-smoking gravy train. He was an a-hole then, and appears to still be an a-hole. Anything to control you. For a buck, of course.


28 posted on 05/23/2012 8:09:16 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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29 posted on 05/23/2012 8:28:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: doberville

The only time Delaware’s “no sales tax” claim really comes into play is on big ticket items and at the dollar stores. I know, I lived in Delaware More than 20 years before moving to Virginia.

Shopping in Delaware is more expensive, I see it daily in my shopping. I was at my SIL’s in Diver a short while back and we ran out of butter, so I made a run to the local Food Lion to grab a pound. The day before that I had bought butter in my local Food Lion here in Virginia - mine was 40cents cheaper, even after adding in the sales tax, than what I paid in Dover.

As for distance, as I said, I am 8 miles from the Maryland line, and I’m on the Eastern Shore just an hour south of Delaware. Between my house and the Maryland line there are 8 tobacco outlets and numerous convenience stores that all sell tobacco products.


30 posted on 05/23/2012 8:31:26 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

31 posted on 05/23/2012 9:39:11 AM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sieg Hiel Comrad.


32 posted on 05/24/2012 7:38:53 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Drango

With the current level of purging, I am really surprised you are still around. How does anyone that FAILS to engage their intellect allowed to hang around FR?


33 posted on 05/24/2012 7:42:36 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
Your not gonna cry are you? Was it the words of Newt that upset you? Here I'll repeat them...

Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read.

34 posted on 05/24/2012 5:43:03 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Either you have a reading comprehension issue or you are purposefly obtuse. Either way I am surprised you have survived the the current purging of the intellectual lightweights.


35 posted on 05/25/2012 6:43:39 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Drango

Good news: Jesus still loves you

Bad news: Limited government conservatives on FR still think you’re an asshole


36 posted on 05/26/2012 12:35:47 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: doberville
Delaware is 30 min from the Eastern Shore and has NO Sales Tax (and is generally cheaper).

Virginia is ALSO on the Eastern Shore, abuts Maryland, and a carton of cigarettes, including sales tax, is $11 cheaper than in Delaware.

38 posted on 05/29/2012 1:52:10 PM PDT by Abby4116
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