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Hawaii Verifies Obama’s Birth For Arizona Secretary Of State
Talking Points Memo ^ | May 22, 2012 | Nick Martin

Posted on 05/22/2012 9:14:44 PM PDT by Beaten Valve

A Hawaii official announced late Tuesday that the state gave Arizona’s top elections official the verification he wanted showing President Barack Obama was indeed born there in 1961.

The announcement came just hours after Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett backed away from his threats to keep Obama off the November ballot and apologized for embarrassing his own state with a conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into whether the president was really a natural born U.S. citizen.

It also followed weeks of back and forth between Hawaii and Arizona, with Hawaii officials saying they weren’t sure Bennett was qualified to be investigating the matter.

Here’s the full statement Joshua Wisch, the special assistant to the Hawaii attorney general, released at 11:35 p.m. ET:

(Excerpt) Read more at livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; arizona; arizonabirthers; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; indonesia; joearpaio; joshuawisch; kenbennett; kenya; naturalborncitizen; sheriffjoe; usurper
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To: doc1019

Unless you are adopted and then you can only get hold of the BC created by the court for the adoptee parents. Birth records are sealed.


121 posted on 05/23/2012 6:32:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or was he lying then?)
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To: danamco; butterdezillion; LucyT; Brown Deer

Wonder what Corsi brought with him in his carry on. Is it posible they have a photo copy of a BC used by BSO for school records or little league or whatever? hmmmm?


122 posted on 05/23/2012 6:40:30 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or was he lying then?)
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To: hoosiermama

I still hold that nobama was hatched (like the reptile he is)rather than born. That is the sticking point.


123 posted on 05/23/2012 6:51:10 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Red Steel

Set up .... I hope so.

After HDOH confirms the number of the BC, wouldn’t it be wonderful if that BC came into the public realm under a different name ....


124 posted on 05/23/2012 7:02:31 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Smokeyblue; Mr Rogers

This seems fishy to me. He had planned a press conference to talk about the issue. Now he supposedly has “proof” that Obama was born in Hawaii (bearing in mind that Deputy HI AG Jill Nagamine considered a documentably-falsified birth index sufficient “proof” that Obama was born in Hawaii...) that’s supposed to get all these demanding e-mailers off his back and yet he’s not even going to hold a press conference to take questions on what happened?

No, something is definitely fishy here.

We’ll see what statement he makes today, but I want to see the communications showing what change he made to his request and I want to see exactly what they gave him.

Mr Rogers, you’re in AZ. Do you have any idea how to go about requesting copies of the communications between Bennett and HI officials?

We already know they’ve manipulated their database in the past, so anything they “verify” based on their database is worthless. Then again, if Corsi truly has a source from within the HDOH who noted when a forgery was placed in the files, then anything they “verify” based on that forgery is worthless also.

I think Arpaio has it right. No matter how you slice it, the only way anything the HDOH says can be credible at this point is if they allow an audit - which would require at least the microfilms and computer transaction logs.

Basically what a “verification” does is makes whoever did the verifying legally liable for perjury if/when it is shown to be false. Then again, if they’ve got a forged BC in their files, they could claim they didn’t know it was forged.

The computer transaction logs would show who did what with the database. Those transaction logs are supposed to be discloseable - except that the HDOH claims that disclosure would frustrate a legitimate government function. Meaning that a moron like me could figure out how to hack their system. The same reason Okubo originally claimed it was critical for the BC# to be redacted. Yeah, right. Every COLB they print out has a BC# that could cause their whole system to be hacked...

If the people who “verified” a Hawaii birth for Obama were charged with perjury they would have to prove that they didn’t know it was a forgery. The reasonable way for them to know whether it was or wasn’t a forgery would be by looking at the original security microfilms. Anything less than that would be negligent, given the suspicions publicly expressed.


125 posted on 05/23/2012 7:06:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Ronald_Magnus; little jeremiah; Red Steel
How strange. Within minutes last night the AP article I linked to was on at least a dozen websites.
Only one site has this up and everybody reporting on it is pointing to that site as confirmation.
Can't anybody (including the AP) call the office and get an "official" confirmation for print?
126 posted on 05/23/2012 7:13:35 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Smokeyblue

See #126. Very strange that nobody else is reporting this.


127 posted on 05/23/2012 7:17:36 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
BC’s were once available to anyone upon request in Hawaii.
In what decade are you talking about? 1960?
128 posted on 05/23/2012 7:20:23 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; MWFsFreedom
BC’s were once available to anyone upon request in Hawaii.

Here is a pickable link (opens in new screen)...@www.capitol.hawaii.gov - /hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/

Here is the timeline for - §338-18 Disclosure of records
[L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]

So since at least 1949 there have been restrictions in Hawaii on disclosure.

Help me out here with your assertion. What decade were you talking about?

129 posted on 05/23/2012 7:31:52 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Triple
Hawaii says they are all set, Bennett has *not yet* said anything on the quality of the verification.

And I'm taking this whole "he canceled" thing with a grain of salt.
The MSM would be all over this if there were something to the story, just like they were last night with the article I linked to.

Patience is a virtue and I'm willing to wait and see what develops.

130 posted on 05/23/2012 7:43:28 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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131 posted on 05/23/2012 8:21:16 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: doc1019; philman_36; Still Thinking
Birth certificates are public record and therefore are available to anyone.

Not in all States. The laws vary from State to State.

Here is the Hawaiian law concerning who is allowed access to vital records.

132 posted on 05/23/2012 8:28:43 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Jeff Head
It should get interesting...it should have gotten interesting a long time ago before it became so absolutely serious...ie. before the Kenyan Marcist was ever sworn in.

Before the primaries we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually his party's candidate.

Before the main election we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he wasn't actually the president elect.

Before the electoral college vote we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been elected until the electoral college said so.

Before the congress accepted the electoral college vote we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually been approved until the congress accepted the electoral college vote.

Before was sworn in we made the case.
They said it wasn't the right time because he hadn't actually violated the constitution until he became president.

Now that he is in the White House, they say it's too late, you should have said something sooner!

(originally posted 10/30/2009)

133 posted on 05/23/2012 8:40:13 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1219 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: ASA Vet; Beaten Valve

I had a “battle” with some TPM diciples, many there really “educated” Marxister with red flag and sicle, totally ignorant about the Constitution’s Article 2. Section 1. They are brainwashed as to SAD a U.S. citizen so is Barry under any circumstanses. To go there is like going to DU, you need a shower after!!!


134 posted on 05/23/2012 8:50:32 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; philman_36; MWFsFreedom
Hawaii changed their law to accommodate Obama. BC’s were once available to anyone upon request in Hawaii. Not anymore.

The law hasn't been changed since 2001.

135 posted on 05/23/2012 8:56:33 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Casie
For years I've been waiting for the big finale where a lady runs out of a smokey government building in HI. She looks into the camera with teary eyes. She has black soot on her dress and lightly wiped across her forehead. Her voice trembles as she sobs the words, “Oh Nooo! The Birth Certificate Records Room mysteriously burst into flames! And... and... and the fire suppression systems were all off-line for their yearly testing! Its all just sooo... tragic!!” end scene.

LOL!
Nicely painted.

136 posted on 05/23/2012 9:03:38 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: philman_36

My only hope is that Sheriff Arpaio has more up in his sleves than we know about. Sending Mark Zullo, a PI and Dr. Corsi half the way around the globe seems to tell me there’s far more to come. Hopefully they can “pry” their way in to see and inspect visually what Hawaii is sending Bennett from their “archive”???

However, we thought we had Bill Clinton cornered w/impeachment, but he scatted and now part of this whole problem being threathened!!!


137 posted on 05/23/2012 9:07:54 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

Also being able to intervene in the dead baby b.c. case and get their foot into the hospital as well while they are there???


138 posted on 05/23/2012 9:13:28 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Of course Drudge is reporting now that Hawaii has confirmed his birth and link to a story where they say ( of course not quoted - the reporters take ) that Bennett said they verified an American birth for him. Of course in their statement they never said that.
139 posted on 05/23/2012 9:28:53 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: Beaten Valve
"It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy [Arizona Secretary of State Ken] Bennett. Bennett spokesman Matthew Roberts said the office received the verification and planned to comment Wednesday."

Fox News "Latino" (whatever that is, Mexican?). Anyone have the American Fox News version?

140 posted on 05/23/2012 9:33:16 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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