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Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to Arizona (update on Posse w/Okubo)
SFGate ^ | May 22, 2012 | OSKAR GARCIA

Posted on 05/22/2012 10:28:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.

Arpaio said health officials in Hawaii refused to talk to his deputy and posse investigator on Monday, though an assistant attorney general came out to talk to the investigators.

"They won't have anything to do with us," Arpaio said.

Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Hawaii State Department of Health, said two men dressed in business suits from Arpaio's department sat down with deputies from the health department and attorney general's office in a conference room Monday.

The men identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and provided their badges and business cards when asked, Okubo said.

"They said they were conducting an investigation," Okubo said.

Okubo said the Hawaii officials told the men they had to show why they needed the information as part of ordinary business — a response similar to that given to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett last week when he publicly pushed his request to verify Obama's birth.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2012election; arizonabirthers; arpaio; bc; birthers; certifigate; dncfraud; dncrico; election2012; harvardresumefraud; hawaiianfraud; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; naturalborncitizen; noaccountability; nobc; nodocumentation; nointegrity; nojustice; notruth; obama; resumefraud; sheriffjoe; usurper
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To: Seizethecarp
What is this "rewording" issue?

I'd like to see the two requests made by Bennett.

What wording was changed that allowed the HI officials to "comply" with the request?

21 posted on 05/23/2012 1:51:18 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Why is this always so controversial?

For God's sake, it's a Birth Certificate request.

You want my BC, here it is - cost me $10 for three copies certified.

22 posted on 05/23/2012 1:55:11 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks, ASA Vet. You said exactly the line I always fall back on. This is why the Birth Certificate DOESN’T MATTER (except if it can be proven that the documents were forged in an effort to defraud people). Frustrating as so many of us knew this was coming. Another attempt to tell people “Move along. nothing but conspiracies and crazy folks here”. It’s a shame too many will actually believe it’s all BS (just like they did in 2008).

23 posted on 05/23/2012 2:07:39 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Seizethecarp; All

This is nothing but a charade.

And I wouldn’t put it past that weasel Ken Bennett to have been a willing participant in this orchestrated kabuki dance in order to provide a fig leaf to the Kenyan fraud in the White House.

NOW all of the parties (Hawaii, Arizona, *and* the 0bama regime and their KoolAid drinking zombies) can wave this around and say “see? see? we TOLD you he was born in Hawaii!”

And you can be sure that a few self-delusional posters right here on FR will be among them.

24 posted on 05/23/2012 2:20:33 AM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: eCSMaster

Exactly. Either Bennett was eligible to receive verification of the facts of Obama’s birth as recorded on his birth certificate, or he was not. The way he “worded” the request would not change whether he was eligible or not. This sounds like a bunch of bullcrap, where HI agreed to “verify” only what they wanted or were comfortable “verifying” - NOT what the law says they need to verify.

We need to see exactly what transpired, and what HI gave AZ. If they gave just a generic verification that they have records for Obama, then that would be relying on either a 1960-64 birth index which has been altered to include legally non-valid records OR a database which has been altered to put Virginia Sunahara’s birth record under somebody else’s name (like the HDOH did before).

And no matter what they “verified”, their doing so contradicts previous disclosures that Obama’s BC was amended and/or late and has affidavits supporting what was claimed on the BC - because HI law says that late and/or amended BC’s are not probative; HI cannot vouch for the accuracy of anything on those BC’s. So if HI actually verified anything, it is grounds for Bennett (or any SOS) to audit ALL Obama’s birth/citizenship records, as strongly recommended in the report by the HHS inspector general, found at .

25 posted on 05/23/2012 2:25:52 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp
Here's what Bennett originally asked for:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

And here's what he got:

Regarding the inquiry from the Arizona Secretary of State, Ken Bennett, requesting a verification of birth for President Obama from the State of Hawaii, Department of Health, the matter has been resolved. We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirements, and have therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama.

Hawaii has basically just confirmed that Obama was born. I could have told Bennett that.
26 posted on 05/23/2012 3:07:00 AM PDT by SuzyQueIN
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To: ASA Vet; Seizethecarp
"Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN."

That's true, from a divided loyalty (MvH) standpoint only if BHO II really is his biological father. The fact remains that to this day, there has still been no definitive proof offered as to the true "Obama" origins.

One thing you can always count on with "Obama": The truth is not in him.

27 posted on 05/23/2012 3:32:46 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Crucial
They gave a “pinky swear”.
28 posted on 05/23/2012 3:41:01 AM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: eCSMaster

Probably similar wording that Pelosi signed when stating he “was qualified for Pres.” before the 08 elections. Remember that one?

29 posted on 05/23/2012 4:04:55 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: SuzyQueIN

Loved your comment #26.

30 posted on 05/23/2012 4:15:19 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: Seizethecarp

When I did background investigations, we used two terms for birth records: Verified as in I saw the original birth record. Cooberated as in from another record such as an employment record or school record. For certain investigations, only verified was accepted but that was for something as important as a top secret clearance for code access not something as trivial as being president of the US (sarcasm off now).

31 posted on 05/23/2012 4:24:31 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: sueQ
Don't know why I wasted my time trying to comment on this article at SFGate.Image and video hosting by TinyPic
32 posted on 05/23/2012 4:31:22 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: Seizethecarp

The story is mixing up two different stories. One from Arizona’s secretary of state regarding listing the Commie Marxist Mulsim Bastard on the ballot.

The other concerns the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse doing its own investigation.

There are separate activities and not necessarily related. The story seems to assume they are both the same thing.

33 posted on 05/23/2012 4:41:05 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Seizethecarp

Hawaii is a co-conspirator.

34 posted on 05/23/2012 5:04:32 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
Hawaii is a co-conspirator.

As are ALL members of the 110th Congress.

35 posted on 05/23/2012 5:28:24 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Based on his behavior, his loyalties are divided. Or, rather, they do not lie with the United States of America. That, alone, should be enough to disqualify him in the eyes of the voters if not in the judgment of the law, whether or not he is NBC

36 posted on 05/23/2012 5:35:07 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: ApplegateRanch; justiceseeker93

Thanks ApplegateRanch.

37 posted on 05/23/2012 5:58:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time --
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To: butterdezillion
Either Bennett was eligible to receive verification of the facts of Obama’s birth as recorded on his birth certificate, or he was not. The way he “worded” the request would not change whether he was eligible or not.

That's incorrect. Josh Wisch said Monday that Bennett would need to provide legal authority showing his office is "a governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency's or organization's activities."

Wisch told Bennett, specifically, what legal language to use to reword his request. Apparently, Bennett did that and received a confirmation.

38 posted on 05/23/2012 5:59:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Seizethecarp


Arizona did not ask Hawaii to “VERIFY” anything.

Arizona asked Hawaii to “CERTIFY” Obama’s date, time and specific place of birth as well as the names of the birth parents as listed on the certificate of live birth and the name of the attending physician.

The difference between “verifying” and “certifying” is legal integrity and the attendant perjury penalties. NOBODY is certifying anything. That is quite telling.

39 posted on 05/23/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: Seizethecarp

MArk my words. These are the same people who claim Israel or America’s birth are not legitimate.

Yeah, birther hypocrisy trash talk by liberals as usual.

Let me tell you something, if the AZ SOS changed his mind, what will the liberals say: Oh, he changed his mind cuz he wanted dollars to run for election and is corruptible or changeable? Or he changed his mind cuz he is a reasonable GOP man?

They cannot have it both ways. Either we are dealing with crookery and going along with it, or we are not.

Fact of the matter is, Democrates love slave labor and are well on their way to instate it and turn AMerica into Laogai camps.

Why do AMerican liberals think they are so special they will not get the Chinese treatment?

It’s just like in Africa, they have to have their “african leader” in power to be legit, and not some “pesky colonizer” from Europe, as it is insulting or dishonorable.

I tell you what, the colonizers are the f@gs who want us to believe that we should turn away from the good fruits of heterosexuality and eat their sh!t as they eat their sh!t, so that all is equal and politically correct in society.

This is horsecrap.

40 posted on 05/23/2012 6:21:26 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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