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Nurse refuses student inhaler during asthma attack
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Nurse-refuses-student-inhaler-during-asthma-attack/-/1637132/13560430/-/wm13uaz/-/index.html ^ | May 21 2012 | Shaun Chaiyabhat

Posted on 05/23/2012 2:21:14 AM PDT by Daffynition

Volusia County School officials stand by a Deltona High School nurse's decision to refuse a student his inhaler during an asthma attack, citing a lack of a parent's signature on a medical release form.

"It's like something out of a horror film. The person just sits there and watches you die," said Michael Rudi, 17. "She sat there, looked at me and she did nothing."

He said the school dean found his inhaler during a search of his locker last Friday. The inhaler was still in its original packaging -- complete with his name and directions for its use; however, the school took it away because his mother hadn't signed the proper form for him to have it.

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1 posted on 05/23/2012 2:21:26 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Sounds like criminal charges need to be filed along with a civil suit to try and teach common sense to the school system and the nurse (probably impossible).


2 posted on 05/23/2012 2:26:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Daffynition

I was a high teacher for three years. One of my favorite students did not come to school one day. She die in her sleep form asthma. It was my hardest day at school. That nurse needs to be fired. Schools are very good at having many rules that never seem to get to the parents.


3 posted on 05/23/2012 2:37:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Daffynition

More examples of why America is going to Hell in a hand-basket.
My daughter was a childhood asthmatic (1980s)
Fortunately, she outgrew it.

This is one case where I would sue the H of of them.


4 posted on 05/23/2012 2:40:36 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Daffynition
The nurse, like the one shown above, is clearly a sadist and I should think the medical professions ought to eschew sadists.

But just wait until the Obamacare Death Panels are seated and the typical Leftist government bureaucrat, who are sadists by indoctrination, has the ultimate say on whether you live or die:

“We are sorry Ms Smith, but these forms are outdated so you will have to reapply for your heart medication.
“How long will that take?”
“ohhh, I would say six to eight months.”
“But I'm having a heart attack right now!”
“Then I suggest you fill out form 13253B and then mail it to the Emergency and Trauma Control Commission in order to receive your 911 access authorization...”
“Next!”

5 posted on 05/23/2012 2:45:39 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Biden and Obama--funny ha ha and funny queer.")
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To: Daffynition

and yet... if this was a girl who wanted an abortion you can be sure that they would be speeding her to the nearest abortion provider without the parents consent.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 2:47:48 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. and the economy died.)
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To: Daffynition

Sick.

I came across a story just yesterday of a family losing their 5 YO daughter to an asthma attack.

I’m glad this young man is okay. Can’t imagine the grief of losing a child.


7 posted on 05/23/2012 2:48:52 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Daffynition

“A stupid person is more dangerous than a bandit.”

First thing I learned on the internet. See “Basic Laws of Human Stupidity” for scientific proof.


8 posted on 05/23/2012 2:56:10 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Daffynition

Floriduh


9 posted on 05/23/2012 2:56:22 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: bmwcyle
"I was a high teacher for three years. One of my favorite students did not come to school one day. She die in her sleep form asthma. It was my hardest day at school. That nurse needs to be fired. Schools are very good at having many rules that never seem to get to the parents."

It may be the way the article is written, but it sounds like the nurse locked the student in her office when he had his asthma attack and just watched him through the window in the door. That almost sounds like depraved indifference or an attempt to murder him.

10 posted on 05/23/2012 2:57:21 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Daffynition

judas priest. I think a state of emergency overcomes lack of a permission slip.


11 posted on 05/23/2012 2:58:37 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

a young child died here in the richmond area last year due to a school’s refusal to administer a bee sting kit for the same reason....very sad


12 posted on 05/23/2012 3:03:44 AM PDT by CrouchingTiger620
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To: Daffynition

Stupid parents....couldn’t sign the dang form? That is one thing that my wife (especially) does is go through all backpacks to ensure all paperwork is looked at and all forms signed as required. Parents are so damn lazy.


13 posted on 05/23/2012 3:08:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: Daffynition

This is Volusia County they’re talking about, one of the worst in Florida, this is where former Sheriff Bob Vogel pissed on the Constitution day in and day out, by setting up roadblocks on I-95 and seizing cash from motorists who couldn’t adequately explain where the cash came from and what they intended to do with it.

As for this so-called ‘nurse’?

That beeotch needs to be fired, but of course won’t be.


14 posted on 05/23/2012 3:19:24 AM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: AlexW
This is one case where I would sue the H of of them.

First come the criminal charges.

15 posted on 05/23/2012 3:26:30 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Not really the same at all...good stretch though, keep the agenda going.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 3:27:02 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Truth29

Some call them “educators.”


17 posted on 05/23/2012 3:27:42 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: bmwcyle; Daffynition

I was a high teacher for three years. One of my favorite students did not come to school one day. She die in her sleep form asthma. It was my hardest day at school. That nurse needs to be fired. Schools are very good at having many rules that never seem to get to the parents.


I believe that once again common sense is bereft at the schools. But in severe case of self-honesty I believe that the real culprit for that lack of common sense can be laid at the feet of the Trial-lawyers. Their willingness to sue on behalf of anyone regardless of the commonsensical nature of the case has lead us down this dark and dangerous path where thinking is bad and following the rules blindly is good.


18 posted on 05/23/2012 3:30:11 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Daffynition
There is something seriously sick in American society these days, and it's getting worse. We Americans are becoming like the Vogon bureaucrats in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. For those not familiar with the Vogons, they have meticulous laws for every situation and refuse to deviate from them. Even though the Vogons themselves are not evil, they are de facto a very evil society where a Vogon would stand by and let his mom die if the correct medical forms aren't filled out in advance...in triplicate.

One of the worst phrases in modern American culture: “There oughta be a law!”

19 posted on 05/23/2012 3:38:13 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Daffynition

If I were there, I'd advise the nurse to go down to the lunchroom and get a handful of lard ... then rub it all over the inhaler ... cause that would make things a lot easier for her when somebody shoves that thing up her a$$!

20 posted on 05/23/2012 3:40:18 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obama loves to wok dogs)
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To: Daffynition

It’s a government school. It’s about union contracts, sick time, early retirement and medical benefits. It’s about the union employees and the work rules.

These annoying students have nothing to do with the school’s mission


21 posted on 05/23/2012 3:45:38 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: yldstrk

Some people are more concerned with following procedure, than results. Conformity is rewarded, and no discretion is tolerated. Dull-witted people plus beauracracy, and there you go.


22 posted on 05/23/2012 3:48:13 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: The Working Man

You’d think we have enough rules and regulations by now, wouldn’t you? We’ve reached the point where the law itself is becoming unjust. Last night there was a thread about a student who was fined $675,000 for uploading 30 songs on the Internet. Here we have a nurse who legally could have sat there and done nothing while a student died. She might have followed the law, but she was doing evil.

It’s like the Good Samaritan story in the Bible. Who was good? Was it those who would have let the traveler die rather than render aid on the Sabbath (obeying the law), or the Samaritan? The Samaritan violated the letter of the law, but he obeyed the spirit of the law.


23 posted on 05/23/2012 3:50:27 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: napscoordinator

You’re in a position to show that a school, inept enough to hire this excuse for a nurse, is so competent that it never failed to distribute, collect and maintain necessary forms ever?

Or did you forget the sarc/ tag


24 posted on 05/23/2012 3:51:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: Daffynition

Forget the “school rules”...

That nurse should lose his/her license!


25 posted on 05/23/2012 3:55:35 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Daffynition

News Flash: Huge Governmental Bureaucratic Monopoly behaves like a Huge Governmental Bureaucratic Monopoly.

Why would anybody expect a public school employee to care about children?

The only time my children see the inside of a public school is when I take them with me when I vote!


26 posted on 05/23/2012 4:03:54 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: The Working Man

The lawyers are only turned loose by a public hungry for revenge or money or both.


27 posted on 05/23/2012 4:04:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Daffynition

You would have to be a sadist to simply watch someone suffer an asthma attack and not help them, if you could help them. This nurse needs to do some serious soul searching.


28 posted on 05/23/2012 4:08:07 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: bmwcyle

The lawyers are only turned loose by a public hungry for revenge or money or both.


Yes, you’re right and I believe I at least alluded to that. The problem here is that they ‘will’ take those cases even the ones that they should laugh out of the office.


29 posted on 05/23/2012 4:10:14 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Daffynition
Superintendent's Message

Posted on: Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Margaret A. Smith, D. Ed. Superintendent Volusia County Schools

An excerpt:

"Schools need parents and community members to “BE THERE” in order to be successful with each student."

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Superintendent's Contact Information

Superintendent's Office

Denise Dietrich

Executive Assistant to the Superintendent

3750 Olson Drive Daytona Beach, FL 32124

P.O. Box 2118 DeLand, FL 32721-2118

(386) 734-7190, ext. 20210

ddietric@volusia.k12.fl.us

30 posted on 05/23/2012 4:11:11 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: CitizenUSA

Whatever you do, never let a Vogon read you poetry!


31 posted on 05/23/2012 4:13:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Daffynition

Wait for it........the kid will get expelled for having drugs in his locker.


32 posted on 05/23/2012 4:19:57 AM PDT by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: Daffynition

Common sense if dead!


33 posted on 05/23/2012 4:24:03 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Daffynition

My daughter’s school - all medications must be turned into the school nurse. Kids with asthma are not allowed to carry their own inhalers. ALL medications must be administered by the nurse, with a release from the parents and a doctor’s authorization.


34 posted on 05/23/2012 4:29:01 AM PDT by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: napscoordinator

You forgot your sarcasm tag.


35 posted on 05/23/2012 4:29:37 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: stuartcr

How was it not the same? Texas’s comment pointed out the gross hypocrisy inherent in requiring “parental consent” within the schools.


36 posted on 05/23/2012 4:39:27 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: The Working Man

Court is a problem in itself. The focus today in court is the flow of money. First did you hire a lawyer? If not the court will punish you if did not. Second, is your lawyer connected in the inner circle of lawyers and judges? Favors by judges are handed out that way. Third, will the state get a fine? You will pay heavy fines unless you can buy an expensive lawyer and prove you did not do for whatever you are there. Then there is family court. This court is a violation of the Constitution. I watched an ex-wife lie on the papers she filed. The husband could prove it but they ignored it. Her mother admitted to stealing an AR-15 on the witness stand. She had no reason to do this. The court just ignored these crimes.


37 posted on 05/23/2012 4:39:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: CitizenUSA
The Samaritan violated the letter of the law, but he obeyed the spirit of the law.

This is so important for people to comprehend. Doing what is right and compassionate is the beneficial spirit of all law.

There are too many authorities, scumbag lawyers and judges taking advantage of strict interpretation of "law" and using it for evil.

Words have meaningS.

38 posted on 05/23/2012 4:42:26 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Happy Rain
Have you seen the film *Brazil* by Terry Gilliam? If not, you must.

**Have you got a 27B-6?**


39 posted on 05/23/2012 4:44:20 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: fredhead
The nurse and other school officials did not call 911.

That is criminal

40 posted on 05/23/2012 4:44:20 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

...no parent signature needed.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 4:45:33 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: bmwcyle

This case has to be called *The Lazy Stupids Times Three*.

Surely, the parent was notified the inhaler was confiscated.

A HS student should know by now, what the rules are [stupid rules or not] and hounded the parent to get the form processed; by this age, he would know how serious his attacks could be, unless, of course, he was SpEd.

The school nurse should have been all over the parent for the form; she had to know the student’s medical history, which was probably in the file cabinet.


42 posted on 05/23/2012 4:54:48 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

This idiot needs to decorate a lamppost.


43 posted on 05/23/2012 4:54:48 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Of course, you’re right. They are absolutely the same thing.


44 posted on 05/23/2012 4:56:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Daffynition

The time has long passed for all these officious boobs to be rounded up and turned out on their collective and collectivist asses.


45 posted on 05/23/2012 4:59:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: napscoordinator

>>Stupid parents....couldn’t sign the dang form? That is one thing that my wife (especially) does is go through all backpacks to ensure all paperwork is looked at and all forms signed as required. Parents are so damn lazy.<<

What guarantee is there that a parent DID NOT sign the form and that it was misplaced. A school makes mistakes too.


46 posted on 05/23/2012 5:02:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Daffynition

Or you can homeschool.
Or register for Early College.

Either way, kid carries his own inhaler. No Nazi locker searches.


47 posted on 05/23/2012 5:07:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: bmwcyle
I was a high teacher for three years.

Cool.

48 posted on 05/23/2012 5:10:04 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Daffynition
I have asthma - had it all my life. By the time I was in high school, I kept an inhaler in my purse because you really need to use it as soon as the symptoms start. But that was the 1970's

My son's school is very clear to parents that if you child needs any med, you have to send them in with a note. It's not that hard and the school is very up front and clear about the requirements. It's the state law, not the school's policy. I'm assuming that that is probably the same case here. The parents really should have known.

My son has migraines and can't take regular tylenol, so we make sure that we send in liquid tylenol for him. Just put the bottle in a plastic baggie with a note. Not difficult.

49 posted on 05/23/2012 5:12:00 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Daffynition
I have asthma - had it all my life. By the time I was in high school, I kept an inhaler in my purse because you really need to use it as soon as the symptoms start. But that was the 1970's

My son's school is very clear to parents that if you child needs any med, you have to send them in with a note. It's not that hard and the school is very up front and clear about the requirements. It's the state law, not the school's policy. I'm assuming that that is probably the same case here. The parents really should have known.

My son has migraines and can't take regular tylenol, so we make sure that we send in liquid tylenol for him. Just put the bottle in a plastic baggie with a note. Not difficult.

Too bad they probably don't let kid have cellphones, or the kid could have called 911

50 posted on 05/23/2012 5:13:02 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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