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'Anti-Racists' Attack White Heritage Group in Family Restaurant
ABC News ^ | 05/23/2012 | Andrew Fies

Posted on 05/23/2012 1:33:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A group of 18 people dressed in black, wearing masks, wielding steel batons and hammers and claiming to be extreme anti-racists allegedly stormed a suburban Chicago family restaurant in broad daylight to assault a meeting of alleged white supremacists, officials said.

Ten people were injured and at least three required treatment for head wounds as a result of the attack Saturday at the Ashford House Restaurant in Tinley Park, Ill., a quiet Chicago suburb. The restaurant sustained $15,000 in damages including broken plates, glasses and furniture.

"I've been mayor for 31 years," Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki tells ABC News, "and I've never heard of anything stranger than this."

Five of the attackers were caught and have now been charged with aggravated battery, mob action and criminal damage to property, all felonies. Brothers Jason, Cody and Dylan Sutherlin, along with Alex Stuck and John Tucker are all from Indiana. The men are connected to the Hoosier Anti-Racist Movement (H.A.R.M.) whose website now claims them as "The Tinley Park 5?.

Meanwhile the targets of their attack were about a dozen members of the Illinois European Heritage Association...

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Two of these victims were also caught up in the police investigation following the incident: Steven Speers of North Dakota was arrested on an outstanding warrant for possession of child pornography and Francis Gilroy of Florida was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon.

A restaurant surveillance camera captured some of the melee on video and Zabrocki viewed it before it was turned over to prosecutors as evidence in the investigation.

"You see the door opens up, these 15, 18 people walk in. They've got hoods on, they've got masks on," Zabrocki said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: harm; illinois; racism; racists; stormfront; tinleypark
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Racists kicking other racists (behinds)

Cool, huh?

1 posted on 05/23/2012 1:34:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

“”I’ve been mayor for 31 years,” Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki tells ABC News”

Just like Urine Hatch!


2 posted on 05/23/2012 1:36:56 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Responsibility2nd
"I've been mayor for 31 years," Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki tells ABC News, ...

All the other nuttery aside, Tinly Park is way, way overdue for a new mayor.

3 posted on 05/23/2012 1:39:01 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Chicago -

the thugs new that their chosen victims couldn’t be armed to defend themselves.


4 posted on 05/23/2012 1:40:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Responsibility2nd
As cool as it would be if masked attackers started busting into ethnic studies classrooms and started busting heads.

Maybe that'd be cool too, I dunno. But it would be exactly the same.

5 posted on 05/23/2012 1:41:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lawbreakers illegally assaulting law-abiders.

Not cool.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 1:44:47 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Responsibility2nd

Child porn watching stormfront whackjobs attacked by OWS leftwing whackjobs.

Can we root for both sides to lose?


7 posted on 05/23/2012 1:46:03 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: vette6387
”I’ve been mayor for 31 years,” Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki tells ABC News”

I guess it's time for Ed to run for another government office, grab another pension.

8 posted on 05/23/2012 1:46:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This was in an episode of Sons of Anarchy, except there were bikers involved.


9 posted on 05/23/2012 1:48:55 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Racism = Legal

Physically attacking alleged racists = Illegal


10 posted on 05/23/2012 1:51:17 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: icwhatudo

Because one of the diners had an unresolved prior arrest therefore it is legitimate to wish a felonious armed gang assault on all of the apparently-law-abiding diners?

Or is the prior arrest merely a distraction and an excuse for you to wish illegal violence on those with whom you might disagree?

Either way you have posted something that is worthy only of an ignorant, tribalistic savage, and is unworthy of a free citizen of a constitutional republic wherein rights of free speech and free association are guaranteed to all.


11 posted on 05/23/2012 1:53:56 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam; skeeter

One thing I didn’t metion in the article is mentioned in post 7.

The reason I snipped it out of the excerpt is due to posting rules about even mentioning “that” group’s name here at FR.

So yeah. If the report is true - then both groups are racist pigs.


12 posted on 05/23/2012 1:55:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The white group should have known better than to assume they could flaunt their racism with a public meeting at a popular restaurant with no reaction from equally racist groups that virulently oppose them.

In the Age of Obama, I'm surprised the attackers were arrested. I'll be shocked if any of them actually go to prison but I expect the victims will be suing, even if the attackers have no assets. A very unpleasant situation for all concerned and a black eye for both the victims and their attackers.

13 posted on 05/23/2012 1:59:11 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Responsibility2nd
Well that certainly makes them less worthy of sympathy.

But aside from what ever else they may be guilty of assaults on 'insert ethnicity' heritage groups is not a healthy trend.

14 posted on 05/23/2012 2:02:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Responsibility2nd
As long as it's not opposed to the advancement of minorities in the United States, I don't see any problem with celebrating "white heritage" any more than every other group openly celebrates and promotes their own ethnicity.

Maybe I'm being naive in this instance and this group is racist. I don't know. But this "white shame" idea needs to stop.

Minorities actually owe whites a great deal, particularly in regards to crafting the Constitution and building America to a safe and powerful country where they can raise their children and prosper.

15 posted on 05/23/2012 2:06:04 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Responsibility2nd

Your comment accompanying your OP was retarded and evil.

It has been pointed out to you why by multiple posters, including me.

In your latest reply you have failed utterly to even acknowledge the substance of the criticisms you have received.

Threads discussing instances of apparent racism by white people always cause some FReepers to go retarded. That is because they are stupid and weak and have allowed the commies to infect their minds with commie poison. Already you are not the only (willing?) victim of this phenomenon on this thread.

It is possible to abhor racism without abandoning reason and civilization itself (e.g. due process).

Please learn for yourself how this is done. Others will attempt to guide you but only you can exorcise the commie demon from within your own mind.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 2:07:34 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: skeeter

But aside from what ever else they may be guilty of assaults on ‘insert ethnicity’ heritage groups is not a healthy trend.

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As they say... It’s a black thing. You wouldn’t understand.


17 posted on 05/23/2012 2:07:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Racists kicking other racists (behinds)

So, you believe that celebrating or honoring European Heritage = racism? I'd expect to hear that on ABCNNBCBS or in the Slimes or comPost, but not on FR!

Note that if these individuals DO turn out to be racists, I'm on your side, but let's wait for the evidence.

18 posted on 05/23/2012 2:08:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Near as I can tell, the diners were Neo Nazis and the attackers were Socialists.

It all seems so Retro-Eastern European.


19 posted on 05/23/2012 2:10:03 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: rogue yam

Your comment accompanying your OP was retarded and evil.

It has been pointed out to you why by multiple posters, including me.

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I see. I’m retarded and evil. umm-hmm. But as you see - skeeter backed off his “support” for Stormfront. leaving you alone in suport of White Supremacy.

But hey. Since you are so offended, then take it up with Jim Rob. Better yet - write a screeching vanity in support of Stromfront.

Buh-bye.


20 posted on 05/23/2012 2:13:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: JimRed

Note that if these individuals DO turn out to be racists, I’m on your side, but let’s wait for the evidence.

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Read the article. Read the rest of this thread. The evidence is there.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 2:16:07 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Jim Scott

In what way was the group “flaunting” their racism?

How do the events described in the article give the “racist” diners a “black eye” in the figurative sense?

According to reports the “racists” discreetly organized a gathering of like-minded people at a public restaurant. No one at the restaurant knew of their “white supremacist” ideas. The attacking fascists had previously learned of the meeting somehow and conspired and illegally attacked the “racist” diners, other diners, and the restaurant itself.

Why is anyone other than the attacking fascists in the wrong here?


22 posted on 05/23/2012 2:17:59 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: skeeter

In matters of the law “sympathy” is of very limited relevance.

The law is supposed to treat everyone equally.

That’s why the lady wears the blindfold as she holds the scales.


23 posted on 05/23/2012 2:20:25 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cool, huh?

Not really considering the fact that the victims were minding their own business and were targeted.
24 posted on 05/23/2012 2:21:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rogue yam
I understand and agree.

If we're going to start applauding this kind of thing to be consistent the standard should apply to ALL groups who self identify and associate by race.

That would include applauding a similar attack on a get together of your local MALDEF or NAACP chapter.

25 posted on 05/23/2012 2:30:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Responsibility2nd

Your every post is more unhinged than the last. This is the commie evil metastasizing in your mind.

There is a reason you think that anyone who expects the law to afford equal protection to white racists is himself a white racist.

Do yourself, and civilization, a favor and figure out what that reason is.


26 posted on 05/23/2012 2:31:28 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Responsibility2nd
Don't put words in my mouth, bud.

Go back and re-read my comment. I expressed support for no one.

27 posted on 05/23/2012 2:32:21 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

There’s a Lithuanian heritage camp of some sort just a few miles from me. I’m guessing they’re primarily white and deserving of a butt kickin too. LOL

Then there’s the Polish alliance in town.....


28 posted on 05/23/2012 2:33:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What’s next? Rocks through the Jews windows?


29 posted on 05/23/2012 2:36:53 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I smell an FBI setup. Time will surely tell.


30 posted on 05/23/2012 2:38:41 PM PDT by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: JimRed
Note that if these individuals DO turn out to be racists, I'm on your side, but let's wait for the evidence.

Hold on there, tiger!

You are saying (on a conservative board dedicated to defending the Constitution) that if these people dining in the restaurant are shown to hold political ideas that you personally find abhorrent, then you support their being the target of a felonious gang assault?

Really?

That's the kind of Republic you think our founders fought and died for?

31 posted on 05/23/2012 2:39:00 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: skeeter

I used the word support in quotation marks. As in a /sarc tag. Or something.

“support”

I never meant to suggest that you supported SF. I’m sorry for being wrong and unclear.

And while I’m apologizing.... Upthread in a comment to you, I alluded to the anti white supremacy group that did the attacking as being black.

No basis for that. As far as I can tell - they too were white.


32 posted on 05/23/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“...anti-racists allegedly stormed a suburban Chicago family restaurant in broad daylight to assault a meeting of alleged white supremacists, officials said.”

Is somebody trying to start a war by attacking people they think might counter attack?


33 posted on 05/23/2012 2:41:12 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sometimes its the other way around. Recently some thugs from the English Defence League stormed a meeting of Socialist. The media won’t glorify the EDL like they do the anti racist.
http://m.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/seaham-man-jailed-after-english-defence-league-gang-stormed-socialist-meeting-1-4033146


34 posted on 05/23/2012 2:41:16 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Understood.

I kinda assumed the attackers here were white. Something similar to this happened within the past couple of days & the attackers turned out to be OWS types, a very white outfit.

35 posted on 05/23/2012 2:41:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: rogue yam

Do yourself, and civilization, a favor and figure out what that reason is.

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Why should I? You - in your ignorant racist little mind - have already figured out the reason.

So I’m still waiting for your rantity to explain that reason and to show your support of SF. Ping me when you post it.

mmm-kay?


36 posted on 05/23/2012 2:44:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My understanding is that everyone involved is white.

The fascistic leftist criminals you support, as well as their law-abiding victims to whom you wish illegal violence done.


37 posted on 05/23/2012 2:44:16 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: icwhatudo; Responsibility2nd
Child porn watching stormfront whackjobs attacked by OWS leftwing whackjobs. Can we root for both sides to lose?

You think OWS thugs would not attack a Freeper or TEA Party get-together just as readily, and as violently, as they did these guys?

38 posted on 05/23/2012 2:45:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Everybody on this thread, including you, knows that your support for violent criminality is indefensible.

The more you twist in the wind over it, the more you show yourself to be a person too small to simply admit that you made a mistake and shot your mouth off, saying stupid evil things in the process.


39 posted on 05/23/2012 2:48:56 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: PapaBear3625
You think OWS thugs would not attack a Freeper or TEA Party get-together just as readily, and as violently, as they did these guys?

And the media would be right there waving the racist banner as a means of condoning it.
40 posted on 05/23/2012 2:51:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
And the media would be right there waving the racist banner as a means of condoning it.

Yeah, just like some FReepers on this thread are.

Kind of makes you go hmmm...

41 posted on 05/23/2012 2:53:10 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: cripplecreek; Responsibility2nd
Here's my viewpoint: In the United States, people have the right to hold and communicate whatever opinions they want, without having to be in fear of being violently attacked because violent people are offended.

This means that if somebody wants to say bad things about Mohammed, rant about "crackers keeping us down", or declare their dislike for black people, then that is protected speech, and they should enjoy the full protection of the law against any who would assault them over it.

42 posted on 05/23/2012 2:58:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cool, huh?

I hear there's going to be a parade, right out in front of everyone, flaunting their Irishness. I mean, it's just for the Irish. St. Paddy's they call it. Doesn't get more racist than that. We need to go bust them up with baseball bats - maybe kill a few - that would be cool, huh?

Actually, if you try to lay a hand on me or my green beer I will put a bullet through your head. And if I don't happen to be carrying that day I will still kill you with a f*#@*ing plastic spork.

Cool, huh?

43 posted on 05/23/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: PapaBear3625
This means that if somebody wants to say bad things about Mohammed, rant about "crackers keeping us down", or declare their dislike for black people, then that is protected speech, and they should enjoy the full protection of the law against any who would assault them over it.

And yet everyone enjoys that full protection, except whites it seems. So far down the road from slavery and Jim Crow, apologizing and granting special rights and what do whites reap as a reward: a curb on their free speech rights and in turn vulnerability to attack.

I don't like it. No other country has ever integrated so many cultures and races so well and extended the protection of its laws so equally, more than equally.

44 posted on 05/23/2012 3:21:57 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Sirius Lee

Noobie. Here’s something you need to know. The Irish are not part of any white supremicist hate group.

Now before you atempt to kill me with a “f*#@*ing plastic spork”, I’d suggest you shut up and read the thread.


45 posted on 05/23/2012 3:49:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sirius Lee
Spork Weasel
46 posted on 05/23/2012 4:14:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Crucial

There’s a lesson in that somewhere.


47 posted on 05/23/2012 4:50:11 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Don’t forget your worth as an individual and don’t feel ashamed of the traits you’re born with. Shame is a powerful manipulator.


48 posted on 05/23/2012 9:41:02 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

Yes, but allowing millions of foreigners in and then allowing the left to teach them that whites are the root of all their problems is a recipe for murder IMO.


49 posted on 05/23/2012 11:09:05 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Responsibility2nd
Noobie. Here’s something you need to know. The Irish are not part of any white supremicist hate group.

How about you come up with a list of white-on-black physical crimes committed by stormfronters, and compare it with a list of Leftist-against-conservative and black-on-white physical crimes?

As far as I am concerned, the stormfronters can TALK as much as they want about their ideology, as long as they do not commit actual physical crimes (which I define as harming the bodies or property of anyone, and excludes any "offense against feelings"), just as Nation of Islam can TALK their spew, as long as it does not result in physical crimes.

50 posted on 05/24/2012 5:32:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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