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New York lawmakers propose ban on anonymous online comments
CBS ^ | May 24, 2012 | Chenda Ngak

Posted on 05/24/2012 4:17:21 PM PDT by mdittmar

(CBS News) New York state lawmakers have proposed a ban on anonymous online comments.

Called the Internet Protection Act (A.8688/S.6779), the legislation would require a web site administrator to pull down anonymous comments from sites, including "social networks, blogs forums, message boards or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages."

The bill states:

A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.

Among the bills' sponsors are New York Assemblyman Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O'Mara, who say the proposed law is to fight cyberbullying.

"Cyberbullying has become one of the great tragedies of the Internet age," O'Mara said at a press conference. "Numerous national studies tell us that upwards of 40 percent of students have experienced some form of cyberbullying at least once, and they feel helpless in the face of it. Victims of anonymous cyberbullies need protection. We're hopeful that this legislation can be helpful to the overall effort to deter and prevent anonymous criminals from hiding behind modern technology and using the Internet to bully, defame and harass their victims."

Critics of the bills claim the law will infringe upon free speech.
"This statute would essentially destroy the ability to speak anonymously online on sites in New York," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney with the Center for Democracy and Technology told Wired, adding that anyone who disagrees with a heckler could have the comment taken down.

The proposed law raises questions over privacy and security, as well. The bill would allow website owners access to private information, like a user's home, e-mail and IP address.

A basic website can be operated by as little as one person. The bill would give that website administrator full access to private information, with no additional security provisions for users who would have to hand over their personal information.

Additionally, website administrators currently don't have to disclose their identity to users and can pay to protect their personal information from the WHOIS registry. If the legislation is enacted, the personal information exchange would be a one-way street.

Currently, no votes have been taken on the legislation.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: a8688; anonymous; ban; comments; cyberbullying; deanmurray; freespeech; lawmakers; newyork; online; propose; s6779; thomasomara
Well this is stupid,that comment is anonymous.
1 posted on 05/24/2012 4:17:28 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

China is big on this too.


2 posted on 05/24/2012 4:19:17 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: mdittmar

What’s his email?

I will gladly tell him FU and give my name gives a address.


3 posted on 05/24/2012 4:20:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mdittmar

i guess they don’t like not being able to control the conversation

not to mention, the internet is a great way to expose their corruption


4 posted on 05/24/2012 4:22:37 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: mdittmar

Both of the bill’s sponsors are RINOS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Dean_Murray

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_O’Mara


5 posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:23 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mdittmar

Two idiot RINOs at that.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:32 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: mdittmar

Translation: you cannot use an online forum you build or create the way you see fit. The lawmakers of New York know best.


7 posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:32 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mdittmar

both R’s


8 posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:53 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: mdittmar

Moslems would love this. They could target whoever didn’t want to live according to Sharia.

If anything like this passes, I’ll change my online name to “Cocky McSorely.”


9 posted on 05/24/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: mdittmar

Time to round up “Publius”, “Philo-Publius”, “Cato” and “Brutus” and string them up.


10 posted on 05/24/2012 4:24:34 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: mdittmar

Assemblyman Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O’Mara.

These stupid Democrats should bullied by all.


11 posted on 05/24/2012 4:25:37 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: mdittmar

These politicians are either evil or crazy. Or both.

Signed
Yuri Knoll
Pittsburgh


12 posted on 05/24/2012 4:26:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: jimbo123

When you’re a FASCIST POS I suppose free speech is among the least of your problems. So why do these pukes want to eliminate it?


13 posted on 05/24/2012 4:26:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mdittmar

I find it interesting how “bullying” is being used as an excuse here to limit privacy.

In other contexts, bullying is a pretext for introducing the homosexual agenda in schools.

What next?


14 posted on 05/24/2012 4:27:24 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

They are Republicans.


15 posted on 05/24/2012 4:28:07 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mdittmar

Cyberbullying? I have had it with the wimp-wicks that can’t handle that and whose feelings are bruised because someone said something that upset the poor darlings. This is just a variant of hate crime and those RINOs should be ashamed of themselves.


16 posted on 05/24/2012 4:28:07 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: muawiyah

Karl Rove and the rest of the GOP-e find anonymous speech inconvenient.


17 posted on 05/24/2012 4:29:09 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mdittmar
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is there a law now that says one must disclose one's name and address if one is to point out in person that some moronic doofus is, indeed, a moronic doofus?
18 posted on 05/24/2012 4:31:20 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: mdittmar

And how is the State of New York going to show that they have jurisdiction over any website?


19 posted on 05/24/2012 4:31:52 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: mdittmar

Of course they’ll sell is as ‘We just want everyone to have a more pleasant Internet experience by using one ID number similar to a Social Security number’ when in actuality it will be for the purposes of the government profiling each and every American citizen into groups, with the anti-socialists being sent to internment camps for re-indoctrination training.


20 posted on 05/24/2012 4:33:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: jimbo123

I’d say Rove can KMA, but not going to let him get that close.


21 posted on 05/24/2012 4:33:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jimbo123
Two homosexual Republicans. They know they cannot win their district as democRAT so they pretend to be Republican. This is how the RINOs infiltrate the party.
22 posted on 05/24/2012 4:36:23 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: muawiyah
I’d say Rove can KMA, but not going to let him get that close.

I notice you don't make the same comment about the communist occupying our White House. Is that because of the anonymous Internet posts and articles suggesting that he would very much enjoy administering that kiss?

23 posted on 05/24/2012 4:37:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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To: mdittmar

Somebody got their feelings hurt. People are thin skinned nowadays.


24 posted on 05/24/2012 4:38:40 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: mdittmar

The Internet is a bastion of free speech as it ought to be. Any abridgement of it there will portend the curtailment of free speech everywhere.Liberals (such a misnomer but since they don’t like it, I use it), of course, are behind it.


25 posted on 05/24/2012 4:45:26 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Pollster1

Obama is already too close ~


26 posted on 05/24/2012 4:46:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Slayton

These stupid Democrats should bullied by all.

They both are Republicans. Yep our party has gone off the deep end. We actually have a stupid liberal as our Republican nominee....how dumb.


27 posted on 05/24/2012 4:47:07 PM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: mdittmar
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Liberal sites have a lot more posters hiding behind anonymity with their over the top hyperbole than conservative sites.

28 posted on 05/24/2012 4:50:06 PM PDT by super7man
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To: mdittmar

Could just use the Joe Incognito or Jack Indisguise or Kimosabe or the ever popular Mr. Smith and bounce it through several anonymiser web portals.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 4:50:53 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: LyinLibs

I’ll change my online name to Rowdy N. Pistoff


30 posted on 05/24/2012 4:51:42 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: mdittmar

And they call us fascists!


31 posted on 05/24/2012 4:56:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mdittmar

This is unconstitutional as it would tend to chill free speech.
Let them pass it and get it promptly struck down while we still have the votes on the SCOTUS.


32 posted on 05/24/2012 4:59:00 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: mdittmar

A 1995 U.S. Supreme Court ruling McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, found that ‘’anonymous pamphleteering is not a pernicious, fraudulent practice, but an honorable tradition of advocacy and dissent’’ that ‘’exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular.’’

McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, Decided on Apr. 19, 1995; 514 US 334:

http://aclu.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=2681


33 posted on 05/24/2012 4:59:52 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: mdittmar

More from the NY “tough on crime folk,” meanwhile the NYPD has been caught under-reporting crime, and subway crime is surging.


34 posted on 05/24/2012 5:00:57 PM PDT by SteelToe
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To: aruanan

Whether or not this law passes (and it’s dumb) normal libel law would continue to obtain, and allow investigators to breach the walls of anonymity. In over ten years on FR I have not seen even the worst troll go railing on some real-life-named random John Doe or Jane Roe who isn’t a public figure — as would happen in “cyber bullying.” But if a troll did that and wasn’t swiftly banned, I’m sure Jim Rob would have been glad to point investigators to its email address and bid them good luck.


35 posted on 05/24/2012 5:01:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: mdittmar

An open letter to Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O’Mara, shove it in dishonor of Tereza Heinz Kerry ! I am anonymous except for my handle.


36 posted on 05/24/2012 5:02:10 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: mdittmar; Liz; AT7Saluki
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.

Why would that make any difference? They want to know where to find you? Maybe it would help a bit - Unabomber submits update to Harvard alumni book-lists occupation as "prisoner"

37 posted on 05/24/2012 5:03:31 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: jimbo123
They are Republicans.

THEY SHOULD BE DEFEATED IF THEY DO NOT WITHDRAW THIS DISGRACEFUL BILL. MADE AN EXAMPLE OF.

38 posted on 05/24/2012 5:04:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Calamari
"Could just use the Joe Incognito or Jack Indisguise or Kimosabe or the ever popular Mr. Smith and bounce it through several anonymiser web portals."

I kinda like the handle "The Shadow",The Shadow Knows;)

39 posted on 05/24/2012 5:18:56 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: theBuckwheat
A 1995 U.S. Supreme Court ruling McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, found that ‘’anonymous pamphleteering is not a pernicious, fraudulent practice, but an honorable tradition of advocacy and dissent’’ that ‘’exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular.’’

Good find. Thomas supported that decision. Scalia did not.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-986.ZO.html

40 posted on 05/24/2012 5:22:21 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Libloather
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.

Why would that make any difference?


So they could give the department of Homeland security a list of all NY Freepers.

41 posted on 05/24/2012 5:23:38 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: mdittmar
To: Assemblyman Dean Murray, Sen. Thomas O’Mara.
Fr: Mark Jessup (aka 'mkjessup') (yes that's my real name)
Re: Your Proposed Legislation

I have but three words for you two asshats:

GO F**K YOURSELVES!
42 posted on 05/24/2012 5:55:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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Mr. Shadow, that’s a good one! R. Tracy or L. Abner work pretty well too. C. Kent and Don Diego De Lavega would make nice ones too. Maybe even Big Pu$$y Bompensera .....


43 posted on 05/24/2012 6:25:06 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: headstamp 2
Two idiot RINOs at that.

Many RINOs are as big a danger to our Republic as the evil left. There are control freaks in both parties.

44 posted on 05/24/2012 7:27:41 PM PDT by sand88
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To: mdittmar

The New York State Legislature has seen fit, to attempt to expand its Nanny Statist control policies, beyond the boundaries of it’s geophysical border. Just as that wonderful Mdme. McCarthy, ever raising her dead victim husband, from the Long Island Railroad Shooter, in her attempts to abrogate her Oath of office, now, the NY State Legislature has titled all speech contrary to their opinions, as ‘cyberbullying’.

Only during this present Communist-led federal administration, could this have ever been raised as an issue of note, in the nation’s news carriers.

I, Terry L Smith, a sovereign private American, state the following response:

“NO!”


45 posted on 05/24/2012 8:09:19 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Vince Ferrer

Our socialists want it for the same reason China does.


46 posted on 05/24/2012 9:27:06 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks mdittmar.
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.
My IP number is available by calling 1-800-EAT-$H!+ and my real, full name is Sunken Civilizations.


47 posted on 05/24/2012 10:43:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: theBuckwheat

Yet another reason to host outside of the US and to base your email account outside of the US.


48 posted on 05/25/2012 1:27:45 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Whether or not this law passes (and it’s dumb) normal libel law would continue to obtain, and allow investigators to breach the walls of anonymity. In over ten years on FR I have not seen even the worst troll go railing on some real-life-named random John Doe or Jane Roe who isn’t a public figure — as would happen in “cyber bullying.” But if a troll did that and wasn’t swiftly banned, I’m sure Jim Rob would have been glad to point investigators to its email address and bid them good luck.

Libel law has only to do with printing something that is demonstrably not true. The anti-bully folks want to criminalize anything one says or does that another person claims makes him feel bad.
49 posted on 05/25/2012 5:21:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: mdittmar

Wusses. So much for the constitution.


50 posted on 05/25/2012 5:58:34 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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