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Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
CNBC / Reuters ^ | May 24, 2012 | Tom Brown and Philip Barbara

Posted on 05/24/2012 5:14:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday.

The claim came in a motion by prosecutors to keep some of Zimmerman's statements under seal pending his trial in a case that triggered civil rights protests across the United States, while sparking widespread debate over guns, self-defense laws and U.S. race relations.

"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.

They said the statements by Zimmerman were admissible in court and "in conjunction with other statements and evidence help to establish defendant's guilt in this case."

The court filing offered no details about the statements Zimmerman made to police or other law enforcement officials. It said Florida's public records law had no provision requiring "the disclosure of a confession" of a defendant....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; liberalmedia; lmm; lyingmedia; mediabias; msm; partisanmediashills; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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So they're continuing to try him in the media by filing to suppress evidence which "proves his guilt" of 2nd degree murder? Can this case get any stranger?
1 posted on 05/24/2012 5:15:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eff the media . . . let the truth shine through.


2 posted on 05/24/2012 5:17:09 PM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: rhubarbk

Zim offeed a friggin urban predator. Good for him!


3 posted on 05/24/2012 5:19:37 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4 posted on 05/24/2012 5:20:52 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’ll be interesting to see what Dersh has to say about this latest stunt. I smell fear on the side of the prosecution.


5 posted on 05/24/2012 5:21:15 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The prosecution in the case is highly irresponsible because they are running scared. Hence the attempt of a trial in the sycophantic media.

The prosecutor should be brought up on charges.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 5:21:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s the filings.

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/zimmerman_state_motion.pdf

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/zimmerman_prot_order.pdf


7 posted on 05/24/2012 5:22:30 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: headstamp 2

Nifong 2.0 coming up.


8 posted on 05/24/2012 5:23:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Capt. Zimmerman has 5th Amendment Rights and any incriminating statements he may have made were likely made under duress and are not admissible.
9 posted on 05/24/2012 5:23:18 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Renegade

No good deed goes unpunished.


10 posted on 05/24/2012 5:24:13 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves)
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To: dirtboy
I smell fear on the side of the prosecution.

You are correct. Read their filing and you'll see they're trying to seal everything up from public view. They're panicking.

11 posted on 05/24/2012 5:24:52 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like that stupid woman is getting desperate.

“We’ve got incriminating evidence, so we’re demanding that it be kept secret!”

Yeah, that computes.


12 posted on 05/24/2012 5:28:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dirtboy
I smell fear on the side of the prosecution.

Big time.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 5:29:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: abb; dirtboy
I smell fear on the side of the prosecution.

You are correct. Read their filing and you'll see they're trying to seal everything up from public view. They're panicking.

I disagree, they are following orders from Holder and ultimately the bummer to inflict chaos.....to what goal will be determined.

14 posted on 05/24/2012 5:30:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The photos of his bloody head are enough to prove reasonable (very reasonable,in fact) doubt.Nothing I've seen *proves conclusively* what happened but self defense is a *very* plausible claim for Zimmerman to make.
15 posted on 05/24/2012 5:30:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Dreyfus affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair


16 posted on 05/24/2012 5:33:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Scooter Libby


17 posted on 05/24/2012 5:34:10 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: headstamp 2

You bet they’re running scared. This comes directly on the heels of the “news” of eye witness recantations and contradictory statements. When (not if) Zimmerman is acquitted, they will be catching 9 kinds of liberal hate from their fellow travellers.

Kinda makes it hard to get invites to all the correct cocktail clinkers. Let the race war begin. If you live in the city, ....c’est la vie. C’est la guerre.


18 posted on 05/24/2012 5:34:15 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then the Prosecution needs to trot out this so-called evidence. Suppressing it not only calls it into question, but pretty much negates it.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the prosecutor withheld evidence.....she better start lawyer’n up


20 posted on 05/24/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: icwhatudo

That’s not much of a colour reversal for Zimmerman, who is actually part hispanic and part black.


21 posted on 05/24/2012 5:36:57 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

suppose he hated blacks. can he still defend himself?


22 posted on 05/24/2012 5:36:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: Jacquerie

If he( Zim) didn’t do the good deed he probably would be dead.


23 posted on 05/24/2012 5:37:42 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: icwhatudo

Who cares. The colors weren’t reversed. They never are. That dumb kid on the left of your picture may be a total dumbass but he doesn’t have the same hate-filled killer attitude like these blame-whitey-for-everything people.


24 posted on 05/24/2012 5:37:57 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Trayvon’s killer”???????

That headline has to be one of the most biased I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying something.


25 posted on 05/24/2012 5:39:30 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: ought-six

This just seems really, really stupid. Would any judge refuse to unseal evidence sealed by the prosecution requested by the defense? I mean, WTF?

I’m betting it is far from detrimental to Zimmerman. I’m going with consistent to existing physical evidence.


26 posted on 05/24/2012 5:39:30 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: knarf
Scooter Libby

If it weren't for the timing I'd say Reichstag, though this could be a catalyst.

27 posted on 05/24/2012 5:41:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
“Trayvon’s killer”??????? That headline has to be one of the most biased I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying something. ................ Is it ever. What happened to "accused or alleged?
28 posted on 05/24/2012 5:41:44 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"... numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses,"

We've seen some of the statements of witnesses and their changing stories. It would be impossible not to contradict them.

29 posted on 05/24/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

30 posted on 05/24/2012 5:43:51 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“...can he still defend himself?”

Could a Jew kill a Nazi in self defense in the Third Reich?

The AG of the US has declared open season on whites.

Will Malik Shabazz be prosecuted for threatening to kill white people?

No, no, and no.

No “just us” for crackers.


31 posted on 05/24/2012 5:46:05 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: ought-six

Well there used to be these things called “trials”, where the evidence was presented.


32 posted on 05/24/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The court filing offered no details about the statements Zimmerman made to police or other law enforcement officials.

IOW, the statements don't exist and this is just more media crapola trying to try George Zimmerman before he gets into court.

33 posted on 05/24/2012 5:47:20 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A POS headline from a POS news outlet.


34 posted on 05/24/2012 5:48:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.

So how did investigators overlook such obvious pieces of evidence the first time?

35 posted on 05/24/2012 5:50:15 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People cannot grasp the concept: ZIMMERMAN IS GOING DOWN! Testimony will be produced to counter any evidence favorable to Zimmerman; physical evidence will be produced to counter any such evidence favorable to Zimmerman; witnesses will be turned by threats of violence against them or their families; new witnesses will be found, even during the trial, willing to swear to facts convicting Zimmerman and countering any favorable evidence he may produce; photographs will be doctored; written confessions produced written by master forgers-even Zimmerman will think it is his writing and signature.

ZIMMERMAN IS GOING DOWN! He will die in prison stabbed by a black inmate who will emit the soulful cry "THIS IS FOR TRAYVON!"

36 posted on 05/24/2012 5:51:09 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

GZ has admitted to killing TM. He is “Trayvon’s killer”.
The question is whether he murdered him.
If they had said “Trayvon’s murderer”, that would have been biased.


37 posted on 05/24/2012 5:53:25 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: abb
You are correct. Read their filing and you'll see they're trying to seal everything up from public view. They're panicking.

Look at the links you posted - in the second filing, the defense concurred with the prosecution's motion to keep this stuff sealed. It's not fear, it's pretty standard practice in a high-profile case like this: Zimmerman's statements are likely to be (among) the most important pieces of evidence in the case, and so, regardless of what he said, neither the prosecution nor the defense want everything out in the public before the case gets to trial (if it ever gets there).

38 posted on 05/24/2012 5:54:29 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can only hope she gets the same treatment at her disbarment hearing.


39 posted on 05/24/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry “Breaker” Morant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Morant


40 posted on 05/24/2012 5:57:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be twisted and used against you by unscrupulous prosecutors.’


41 posted on 05/24/2012 5:57:54 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Doogle
the prosecutor withheld evidence.....she better start lawyer’n up

No, the prosecutor didn't withhold evidence. This motion is simply the prosecutor, joined by the defense, seeking to keep certain evidence (which has already been turned over to the defense) from being released publicly. The prosecution has a duty to turn over evidence to the defense, not to the public.

42 posted on 05/24/2012 5:58:17 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: kanawa

Zimmerman could not have killed him. After all the gun did it right? Are they not the whole problem so say the left?


43 posted on 05/24/2012 6:00:00 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Ken H
"inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses"

So how did investigators overlook such obvious pieces of evidence the first time?

Witness statements have, ahem... evolved.

http://www.examiner.com/article/witness-tampering-trayvon-martin-case

44 posted on 05/24/2012 6:01:34 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Ken H
So how did investigators overlook such obvious pieces of evidence the first time?

1) They didn't - the initial investigator recommended charges (manslaughter, I believe)

2) This motion doesn't say when Zimmerman made these "contradictory" statements. It could have been after Corey's office took the case over.

45 posted on 05/24/2012 6:01:36 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tom Brown and Philip Barbara are red fag minor league propagandists.

May the fate that befell their hero Joe Goebbels and his family pale in comparison to the well deserved fate that awaits them.

46 posted on 05/24/2012 6:03:56 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

http://www.conservativecommune.com/2012/05/derschowitz-says-george-zimmerman-prosecutor-illegally-withheld-evidence/


47 posted on 05/24/2012 6:06:03 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
1) They didn't - the initial investigator recommended charges (manslaughter, I believe)

So why wasn't he charged?

48 posted on 05/24/2012 6:07:21 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
ZIMMERMAN IS GOING DOWN! He will die in prison stabbed by a black inmate who will emit the soulful cry "THIS IS FOR TRAYVON!"

No, he's not. He'll walk, and thousands of dumfounded dipsh@t's will run around and burn their own stores and apartments down. Just like an LA Lakers victory/loss. This isn't 1991, everyone has the internet now. The MSM can try all they want, but when Alan Dershowitz (pride of the American left) says the man is innocent....it's over.

49 posted on 05/24/2012 6:08:31 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have not seen anything to date hinting of Zimmerman ever once denying he shot and killed Martin.

It will be interesting to see what, if any, additional evidence the prosecution claims to have, that justified charging him with 2nd degree murder.

(off topic, my stolen car was recovered, but I saw no evidence of any attempt by LEOs to gather fingerprints either inside or outside the vehicle)

50 posted on 05/24/2012 6:09:17 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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