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Drones Pose a Threat to Americans' Privacy: Pressure is mounting to normalize the use of drones...
Reason ^ | May 23, 2012 | Gene Healy

Posted on 05/24/2012 8:18:37 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/24/2012 8:18:43 PM PDT by neverdem
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In several cases, the Supreme Court has held that warrantless surveillance by manned aircraft doesn't violate the Fourth Amendment.

Well hell, if the manual genital rape of women and children at gunpoint at airports doesn't violate the 4th, why should aircraft surveillance?

2 posted on 05/24/2012 8:24:57 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: neverdem

They’re making tasers small, self-contained and deliverable via something similar to a shotgun slug.

I predict they’ll be on cop UAV’s soon, or at least there will be a MAJOR effort to do that.


3 posted on 05/24/2012 8:25:50 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem

These drones, even the small ones, operate above visual and sound detection range from the ground.

But I wonder if a very narrow beam microphone could be mounted on a rifle, next to about a 4X20 scope? Probably it would need to be mounted on a tripod to get the high angles, like a tiny AA gun. Would the sound detection get the rifle onto the target at low visual power? Might work against the small stuff that the Podunk PD has in their inventory.

It would be interesting to brainstorm solutions to Big Brother’s looming eyes in the sky.


4 posted on 05/24/2012 8:28:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem
Department of Homeland Security's need for "routine access to U.S. airspace"

There seems to be a disconnect here for aviation safety.

During fair weather, VFR rules state each pilot of an aircraft see and avoid others. For drones, the "pilot" could never see as good as a manned aircraft, therefore the drones would need to rely on the up and coming ADS-B technology, where new required transponders would replace the current 1940's radar technology. Only problem is that the gov wants drones now, but ADS-B won't be required on all aircraft for another 8 years...

5 posted on 05/24/2012 8:41:25 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: neverdem

Drones? No worry. America was promised that seat belt. Laws would never be primary stop. So quit being scared.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 9:18:19 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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7 posted on 05/24/2012 9:19:58 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


8 posted on 05/24/2012 9:31:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Chief Deputy Randy McDaniel


9 posted on 05/24/2012 9:37:01 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: bamahead; traviskicks

Ping


10 posted on 05/24/2012 9:38:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: C210N

What would be worse a bird strike or a drone strike?


11 posted on 05/24/2012 9:44:26 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Talisker
The borders are open and have been for several decades. There is no system of enforcing exit visas.

And for our safety, we will fly UAVs about the country.

Along with the TSA and VIPR, people have got to see what is happening here.
12 posted on 05/24/2012 9:49:06 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Travis McGee
It would be interesting to brainstorm solutions to Big Brother’s looming eyes in the sky.

Until CWII starts, blasting little ones out of the sky is problematic. At some point they'll start using acoustic gear to locate the report from the muzzle. Silencers will be at a premium. Tactics at rural marijuana fields need to be monitored, if possible.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 9:54:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Ultralights with AK and 80 round drum. WWI style aerial combat. Might be fun.

I see the need for a silk scarf and leather jacket.

14 posted on 05/24/2012 10:04:33 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: neverdem

Republican Richard Nixon gave us the EPA and Democrats use it to stop industry and impoverish the land.

Republican George Bush gave us the Depart of Homeland Security and Democrats use it to destroy American’s freedom.

I’m not really sure who started the War On Drugs but both parties use it to enrich themselves and make war on American freedom.

I’m beginning to see a pattern here....


15 posted on 05/24/2012 10:15:14 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: neverdem; All

Krauthammer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfiFnt3bEg4

Judge Nepolitano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fNP51hZtVI&feature=related


16 posted on 05/24/2012 10:45:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: going hot

I wonder what a 1000mw laser would do to their optics? Sure, it is against the law to aim one at a piloted aircraft, but what about a drone? If you do it from a remote site, then leave before ground forces can come in, how are they going to catch you?


17 posted on 05/24/2012 10:52:07 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks for the links.


18 posted on 05/24/2012 11:02:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

I’m having to take a second look at drones over the U. S. If they are armed and circle the White House and Congress 24/7/365, it might be worth it.

Everywhere else, absolutely not.

Ah, in case anyone can’t quite scrape the brain cells together enough to realize I’m kidding, I am.

Obama will be voted out in November, and leave by normal means in January 2013. That’s fine with me, although it’s a damned shame a pretender of his caliber ever made it to the White House.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 11:02:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: Jay Santos CP
The borders are open and have been for several decades. There is no system of enforcing exit visas.

And for our safety, we will fly UAVs about the country.

Along with the TSA and VIPR, people have got to see what is happening here.

We 'mere civilians' really need to a) start building logistics networks, b) start mustering & training militias, c) start gathering intel (i.e. building spy/informant networks) d) start scenario-planning/war-gaming based on info (i.e. using c's data in b's training), and e) most importantly pray.

20 posted on 05/24/2012 11:04:54 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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