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Dragon arrives at space station in historic 1st
Yahoo news ^ | 25 May 2012 | MARCIA DUNN

Posted on 05/25/2012 8:45:26 AM PDT by mandaladon

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Private enterprise...something the left opposes.
1 posted on 05/25/2012 8:45:28 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Like the internet, it will develop quickly and cheaply as a free-market.

Once that happens, Gov’t and the Left will attempt to control it and get their cut.

I estimate that will take 10+ years.


2 posted on 05/25/2012 8:49:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: mandaladon

Live stream:

Watch it here
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-msfc
or here
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/003/status.html


3 posted on 05/25/2012 8:50:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: mandaladon

You have named it Capitalist One. That would have really drove the left nutty. Well, nuttier if that is even possible..?


4 posted on 05/25/2012 8:50:32 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: mandaladon
"Looks like we've got us a dragon by the tail," Pettit announced ...

You know that guy couldn't wait to say that.

If I were on the Dragon? ; "is that a giant robot arm or are you just really glad to see me?"

5 posted on 05/25/2012 8:50:47 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: mandaladon

Semiprivate.


6 posted on 05/25/2012 8:51:00 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: mandaladon
Great news. If the government stays out of the way and lets private enterprise forge ahead, I can't help but think that the U.S. would be back in the space game very quickly.

Of course, the government staying out of the way is the main problem with this.

7 posted on 05/25/2012 8:51:50 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: mandaladon

This was done right. Now is the time to let private enterprise take over. Let NASA do it’s space exploration via sateliite, etc and leave private industry to do the real work.


8 posted on 05/25/2012 8:52:09 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: PapaBear3625

Confirmation of successful first-stage capture.


9 posted on 05/25/2012 8:52:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: mandaladon

Go for second-stage capture.


10 posted on 05/25/2012 8:54:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: mandaladon
Private enterprise...something the left opposes.

Obama will claim credit for the building of the inter-galactic railway.

11 posted on 05/25/2012 8:55:06 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: NativeSon

LOL!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 05/25/2012 9:01:25 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: PGR88
Like the internet, it will develop quickly and cheaply as a free-market. Once that happens, Gov’t and the Left will attempt to control it and get their cut.

WTF? The left already controls it. And they're getting their cut.

13 posted on 05/25/2012 9:01:58 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: mandaladon

Second stage capture complete. The Dragon has docked.


14 posted on 05/25/2012 9:03:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: mandaladon

A private capitalist company has achieved something that North Korea could not.


15 posted on 05/25/2012 9:07:16 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: mandaladon

I swear if I were running any large church I would be formulating plans for the colonization of the moon / asteroids etc...

Because soon only screw ball religions (like the ROPers and Fundamental Atheism) and socialism/communism will be the only ones that are “accepted”.

I would seriously be considering setting up a fund to explore the possibility of getting off planet in case of widespread religious oppression.


16 posted on 05/25/2012 9:07:46 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: mandaladon

The era of man’s real expansion into the solar system has finally begun - fueled by and made sustainable by free enterprise. I hope to see permanent colonies on the Moon and routine robotic mining operations in the asteroid belt in my lifetime.


17 posted on 05/25/2012 9:20:06 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: mandaladon

Then what do they do with the capsule?


18 posted on 05/25/2012 9:21:24 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: mandaladon

Mission Control in Hawthorne, California, flight controllers applauded when the Dragon reached orbit nine minutes into the flight. Then they embraced once the solar panels on the craft popped open.

Many of the SpaceX controllers wore untucked T-shirts, jeans or shorts, a stark contrast to NASA’s suit-and-tie shuttle crowd.

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I love it!

Ya don’t got to dress up like your going to church to launch rockets, head into space, orbit the earth, etc.


19 posted on 05/25/2012 9:22:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: junta
The capsule comes back later with about 1300 lbs of trash, old equipment, etc....

And then it gets refurbished, refueled, and re-used.

/johnny

20 posted on 05/25/2012 9:27:37 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mandaladon
Funding

As of May 2012, SpaceX has operated on total funding of approximately one billion dollars in its first ten years of operation. Of this, private equity has provided about $200M, with Musk investing approximately $100M and other investors having put in about $100M. The remainder has come from progress payments on long-term launch contracts and development contracts. NASA has put in about $400-500M of this amount, with most of that as progress payments on launch contracts. SpaceX currently has contracts for 40 launch missions, and each of those contracts provide down payments at contract signing, plus many are paying progress payments as launch vehicle components are built in advance of mission launch, driven in part by US accounting rules for recognizing long-term revenue.

LINK

This is a Wikipedia link, but I have seen this addressed elsewhere as well in the last few days.

21 posted on 05/25/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: dragnet2

unless you’re howard wallowitz. have you seen how he dresses?


22 posted on 05/25/2012 9:29:29 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

I have no idea who that is.

But watch this...

Some happy people for a change.

SpaceX Employees Cheering Outside Mission Control 1

Video: SpaceX employees standing outside mission control at SpaceX Headquarters in Hawthorne, California, watching the successful stage separation...

http://vimeo.com/42608966


23 posted on 05/25/2012 9:34:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GraceG

So you would run away from religious oppression? That would not be very religious of you. Or were you intending to be sarcastic?


24 posted on 05/25/2012 9:34:23 AM PDT by 3rdcoastislander
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To: dragnet2
The response from mission control was quite raucous when the solar panels deployed.. This I think was the most awesome moment of the entire mission so far.. Watch starting at the 11:30 mark, here:

http://new.livestream.com/spacex/Launch

25 posted on 05/25/2012 9:35:39 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: mandaladon
What? A historic 1st that doenst involve Øbama?
or does it somehow¿
26 posted on 05/25/2012 9:40:33 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: DoughtyOne

Meeting the President at the Falcon 9 launch site, from left: Neil G. Hicks, Florence Li, Brian Mosdell, President Obama, Leslie Woods Jr

27 posted on 05/25/2012 9:44:05 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I’ve seen it, thanks!

It’s nice to see something good, actually happening in America,

If ya haven’t’ seen this, it’s short and worth the watch.

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SpaceX Employees Cheering Outside Mission Control

SpaceX employees standing outside mission control at SpaceX Headquarters in Hawthorne, California

http://vimeo.com/42608966


28 posted on 05/25/2012 9:47:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 3rdcoastislander
[ So you would run away from religious oppression? That would not be very religious of you. Or were you intending to be sarcastic? ]

A manual has already been written, it would be as a backup / takeback plan.

29 posted on 05/25/2012 9:48:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: DoughtyOne

it was addressed at the post launch presser.


30 posted on 05/25/2012 9:48:55 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: junta

“On May 31, the capsule will be detached from the station and sent back down toward a Pacific Ocean splashdown and recovery off the coast of Southern California. That part of the operation went off successfully during Dragon’s first orbital test mission in December 2010, but this would mark the first-ever return of a commercial spacecraft from the space station. Russia’s Soyuz capsule is the only other existing space vehicle capable of returning space station payloads.”


31 posted on 05/25/2012 9:58:32 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: dragnet2

Watched it, thanks! That’s a nice facility in Hawthorne.. Little ‘ol Hawthorne of all places. I bet that little city enjoys the revenue.


32 posted on 05/25/2012 10:00:12 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: ILS21R

Meanwhile, his staff is probably looking into regulations they can devise to kill the project.

It’s all about him isn’t it. Why look what all is happening on my watch.


33 posted on 05/25/2012 11:18:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: Admin Moderator; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; ILS21R; mandaladon; TexasRepublic
"Historic 1st, Dragon arrives at space station", is removed from Breaking News.

But then, "University allows 38 year old male to use women's bathroom" ....Is somehow breaking news?

A school has liberal agendas? Major breaking stuff?..lol

Fact is, there are individuals out here who are not too happy about the successes here..It can be seen in several posts on this thread...So it was quickly sent to the corn field.

Things can get really ugly folks.

Great job!

34 posted on 05/25/2012 11:18:34 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: markman46

Thanks Markman46. I didn’t see that.


35 posted on 05/25/2012 11:19:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: Joe Brower
If the government stays out of the way and lets private enterprise forge ahead, I can't help but think that the U.S. would be back in the space game very quickly.

One could ask Dagny and Hank...


36 posted on 05/25/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: dragnet2

I think it should stay in ‘Breaking’ too and wondered why it was pulled. Oh well. It’s historic, no doubt about that. I’m one of those “unhappy people” but my hat is off to SpaceX and it should get top billing.


37 posted on 05/25/2012 11:25:57 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I’m not thrilled with what happened to NASA, but this is real history in the making. In fact, NASA is still part of it, but like everything else, we need to start moving away from total government control of things like space exploration, education, business, etc. Moving away from government control is like escaping earths gravitational pull. It’s really difficult, every single inch of the way. Failure to break free, will eventually result in total systems failure.


38 posted on 05/25/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DoughtyOne

not a problem. next up is Orbital and their Cygnus, they start a test flight in August and a Demo in Dec, should be interesting times


39 posted on 05/25/2012 11:49:40 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: dragnet2
Many here see space as a big-government boondoggle. Some have religious objections. A handful believe it is an elaborate and expensive hoax.

Which is really too bad. Because like it or not, our only choices are to go into space or go back to the caves. If civilization endures, we will need the stuff that is up there: limitless energy, abundant natural resources and lots and lots of empty space to do the big, audacious and dangerous engineering projects that space-faring civilizations need to do to prosper. Eventually we will need more elbow room, too. There ae several planets and large moons to chose from.

The alternative is the long, slow stagnation, contraction and eventual death of civilization. Human beings don't do "sustainable"-it's not in out nature and never will be. We long to build, to grow, to excel. We always want new, and we always want more. To thrive we need more space and more stuff. The only place left to get it is Up There. We will go up or we will go down. It is really that simple.

Puts away soapbox...

40 posted on 05/25/2012 12:02:59 PM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: mandaladon

I really don’t get what the big deal is here. Orbital launched private satellites almost twenty years ago. Up to 1000 pounds.

http://www.orbital.com/spacelaunch/pegasus/


41 posted on 05/25/2012 12:05:34 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono

42 posted on 05/25/2012 12:05:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Washington could not tell a lie, Nixon could not tell the truth, Obama can't tell the difference.)
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To: GraceG
I hear ya. The world is getting too small. When our forefathers were oppressed, they took the sailing ships to the unknown New World and never looked back. I dare anyone to call them cowards. But now the New World has the Same Old Problems and there is no place left to go.

Down here, that is.

43 posted on 05/25/2012 12:12:52 PM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: jboot

Absolutely!

There are a few things where I support government involvement, which is the military, protection of our homeland/borders and limited involvement/support in space exploration.

Excellent post BTW!


44 posted on 05/25/2012 12:14:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mandaladon

Congratulations to African American, Elon Musk.


45 posted on 05/25/2012 12:18:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cruise_missile
I really don’t get what the big deal is here.

This is the commercial space vehicle pressurized with the design of carrying people and bringing them back.

The first proving flight doesn't involve passengers, but it will in the future.

46 posted on 05/25/2012 12:22:56 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney; cruise_missile

It’s also the first private spacecraft to berth with the International Space Station, as well.


47 posted on 05/25/2012 12:29:13 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: dragnet2

Thanks! IMHO, the government’s commission in space is covered by the Preamble, i.e. providing for the common defense. Like it or not, space is a full-fledged combat theatre. Even if we concede space, others won’t. Engagement is the only option consistant with survival.


48 posted on 05/25/2012 12:40:13 PM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: jboot

You’re welcome.

And I understand that and why I support limited government involvement in space exploration endeavors and of course military defense.


49 posted on 05/25/2012 12:50:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Moonman62

You bet, and by the way, Musk is a legal U.S. Citizen and actually resides in Ronald Reagan’s old neighborhood.


50 posted on 05/25/2012 12:53:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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