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Barbecue restaurants facing fire from South Florida cities
Sun Sentinel ^ | 25 May 2012 | Justine Griffin

Posted on 05/25/2012 7:50:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog

If you want authentic barbecue, it's a good weekend to fire up your backyard pit because barbecue restaurants say some South Florida cities aren't too hot on their traditional slow cookers.

The fragrant smoke that attracts 'cue lovers is often a turnoff to neighboring homes, so a growing list of cities are adding restrictions to routine health and fire codes, making it difficult for restaurants to open.

"If they knew what they were going to have to go through to open a place, I don't think anybody in their right mind would ever get into this business," said Mark Vasturo, CEO of Miami-based chain, Shorty's Bar-B-Q.

Open pits are legal under national rules, there are limits as to how the flame and smoke need to be controlled.

"Some cities that are more strict," said Bruce Strandhagen, fire captain and inspector in Fort Lauderdale. "These codes put further restrictions on the equipment."

In Boca Raton, a business can be fined if smoke from the restaurant is deemed a "nuisance" to those nearby. The constant plumes of smoke funneling out of strip malls and free standing barbecue restaurants in suburban areas can cause conflicts with nearby neighborhoods, said Mike Woika, assistant city manager in Boca Raton.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: barbecue; pitt; smokedmeat

1 posted on 05/25/2012 7:50:32 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

The EPA will require stack scrubbers in the very near future, even though they will alienate Black voters.


2 posted on 05/25/2012 7:54:38 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: smokingfrog

Freedom drain.


3 posted on 05/25/2012 7:57:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: smokingfrog

I’d like to open a BBQ upwind from a Mosque one day.


4 posted on 05/25/2012 7:58:58 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: smokingfrog
Sometimes the smoke does get out of hand.


5 posted on 05/25/2012 8:02:08 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: doc1019

The smoke isn’t all that odious, but maybe they could help relations with neighbors by offering 33% off to anyone who shows an ID with a home address within half a mile.


7 posted on 05/25/2012 8:07:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: smokingfrog

This is BS, what next, ban fireplaces?


8 posted on 05/25/2012 8:08:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Rebelbase

“I’d like to open a BBQ upwind from a Mosque one day.”

Pig butt BBQ ought to do the trick!


9 posted on 05/25/2012 8:10:02 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: HiTech RedNeck

To a Muslim, even the smell could send him to Islamic hell.


10 posted on 05/25/2012 8:10:02 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: smokingfrog

So, that means before too long your next door neighbor can complain about your fireplace and fireplaces will be outlawed. Where does it end?


11 posted on 05/25/2012 8:11:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This is BS, what next, ban fireplaces?
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Yes. This is all about ‘social engineering’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_%28political_science%29


12 posted on 05/25/2012 8:12:59 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: smokingfrog
A.) You quickly lose your sensitivity to even noxious smells.

B.) Who the heck dislikes the smell of barbecue?

13 posted on 05/25/2012 8:14:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Migrating elephant herds react badly to flaming motor homes and dry ice doesn't repel killer bees)
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To: Terry Mross

So, that means before too long your next door neighbor can complain about your fireplace and fireplaces will be outlawed. Where does it end?
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It doesn’t.....and it won’t....unless we stand up.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080323210225.htm


14 posted on 05/25/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The four branches of gov’t; Executive, Legislative, Judicial, Regulatory.


15 posted on 05/25/2012 8:15:18 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I was in Aspen Colorado one winter and fireplace used was banned because of weather conditions. It was cold but the smoke was low hanging and the wind was not moving it out of the valley. It has been a long time ago but I think I am remembering it correctly.


16 posted on 05/25/2012 8:18:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: umgud

If you live in a neighborhood that is zoned for commercial.... Too bad.

Althgh I do like the idea of discounts for locals.


17 posted on 05/25/2012 8:18:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: smokingfrog
Hell, the country needs good barbecue we'd all be better off if it was a national dish
18 posted on 05/25/2012 8:21:34 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: smokingfrog

Florida used to be fun and sun and individual freedom.

But Nanny State government, from local to federal, has worked hard to turn it into a poor copy of the uptight, overtaxed, overgoverned northern states millions of people fled to get to Florida.


19 posted on 05/25/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Ditter

Preventing brushfires or the like is totally different. I can see a temporary ban in that case.

What I do see are Libtards trying to ban smoking food because they don’t like the smell of smoke just like they did with cigarettes.


20 posted on 05/25/2012 8:26:30 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Fireplace ban, fines effective today
21 posted on 05/25/2012 8:27:26 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

WTF?

Objecting to the smell of barbecue?

That’s like.....objecting to ...Heaven.

I would think that would RAISE property values.


22 posted on 05/25/2012 8:29:11 PM PDT by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: Sapwolf

My only complaint would be that the smell of BBQ would make me want to have it EVERY day.


23 posted on 05/25/2012 8:31:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder how many laws, rules, regulations, restrictions and policies a free country can have before calling itself a free county becomes kind of an inside joke.


24 posted on 05/25/2012 8:35:56 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Wenn Sie etwas sehen, sagen Sie etwas!)
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To: vette6387

Remember when South Florida used to be a part of the South? I reckon those days are long gone if this is really happening...


25 posted on 05/25/2012 8:37:24 PM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: smokingfrog
My only complaint would be that the smell of BBQ would make me want to have it EVERY day.

That's a bad thing? :-)

26 posted on 05/25/2012 8:42:36 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: smokingfrog

I can see where smoke drifting in to a nearby neighborhood could become an issue.


27 posted on 05/25/2012 8:47:43 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Rebelbase
"I’d like to open a BBQ upwind from a Mosque one day"

Wonderful idea. Open it next to the New World Trade Center in NY.

How about a BBQ pulled pork stand in the trade center?

28 posted on 05/25/2012 8:48:44 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: OldMissileer

It is if you don’t want to weigh 400 pounds.


29 posted on 05/25/2012 8:49:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

There is a Muslim behind this....I’d bet the farm on it.


30 posted on 05/25/2012 8:53:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Terry Mross

>>So, that means before too long your next door neighbor can complain about your fireplace and fireplaces will be outlawed. Where does it end?

They’re already been largely banned in San Francisco and many neighboring areas. Look it up.


31 posted on 05/25/2012 8:56:00 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: smokingfrog

Anyone that doesn’t enjoy the smells of a good charcoal cookout or wood smoker isn’t an American!

If they banned anything, it should be gas grills, because gas grills just suck!


32 posted on 05/25/2012 9:14:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: smokingfrog
It is if you don’t want to weigh 400 pounds.

There would be some minor drawbacks.

33 posted on 05/25/2012 9:16:22 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: smokingfrog

Hmmmm...


34 posted on 05/25/2012 9:16:40 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This is BS, what next, ban fireplaces?”

Fireplace control is already here. In some parts of Arizona there are ordinances governing what types of fireplaces you can install, in Washington, there are restrictions on the type of wood you can burn and in California EPA will let you know what days you can use your fireplace.

It’s obvious that some states would rather people didn’t burn any of the trees but rather allow them to catch fire and end up with a raging property threatening inferno.


35 posted on 05/25/2012 9:25:03 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Crapgame

Remember when South Florida used to be a part of the South? I reckon those days are long gone if this is really happening...
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Not since the ‘Snowbirds’ migrated long ago. Have long been infiltrated.

We have a lot of ‘*ahem* peeps from various areas, here. It’s beginning to show in our culture and noticeable when just going out to the local ‘Wally’s’. They have NO manners......whatsoever. No “excuse me”, “holding the door open”.....no decency.


36 posted on 05/25/2012 9:28:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
We have a lot of ‘*ahem* peeps from various areas, here. It’s beginning to show in our culture and noticeable when just going out to the local ‘Wally’s’. They have NO manners......whatsoever. No “excuse me”, “holding the door open”.....no decency.

In other words...

...they're Yankees.

37 posted on 05/25/2012 9:49:27 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Brush fires were not a problem in Aspen Colorado, the ground was covered with 3 feet of snow. Smoke hanging in the air and not blowing away because of weather conditions was the problem. Fireplace burning was severely restricted until the weather changed.

I like the smell of BBQ but smelling it constantly day and night would get a little bit old. I am glad I don’t live near a BBQ restaurant. It would be kind of like hearing your favorite song played constantly, it would get tiresome pretty quickly.


38 posted on 05/25/2012 10:04:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Nothing to do with Preventing brushfires or the like, but an air-quality issue. It's why we always made certain that we lived well outside the boundaries of any local "air quality district", whenever possible.

Some of these petty regimes in some areas, especially in California, HAVE placed bans or restrictions on: the use of charcoal lighter fluid; backyard BBQ or fireplace usage on 'red days'; gas powered lawnmowers, chainsaws, and the like under certain conditions; and a batch of other nonsense.

California Air Resources Board has even pretty much forced/"influenced" manufacturers of gas cans to change their designs, by making all older types 'non-compliant'.

Oh, and over the decades, so I understand, some BBQ joints I frequented while in school, had to either close down; stop using wood pits; move; or install prohibitively expensive 'control systems'.

39 posted on 05/25/2012 10:29:38 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: smokingfrog
"If you want authentic barbecue, it's a good weekend to fire up your backyard pit..."

This is what I had to deal with this morning when I got up.


40 posted on 05/25/2012 10:50:12 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
A.) You quickly lose your sensitivity to even noxious smells.

B.) Who the heck dislikes the smell of barbecue?

A: I used to live downwind from a BIG brewery. That's a strong smell, every day, all the time.

B: I'm drinking a Yuenglings right now.

41 posted on 05/25/2012 11:51:51 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: smokingfrog

What I dislike most about the smell of barbecue is that it gives me the worst case of the munchies!

;^)


42 posted on 05/26/2012 3:36:33 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Norm Lenhart

“There is a Muslim behind this....I’d bet the farm on it.”

Ding! Ding! Ding! Folks, we have a winner!


43 posted on 05/26/2012 3:39:58 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Who the heck dislikes the smell of barbecue?

Vegans


44 posted on 05/26/2012 3:41:21 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Crapgame

South Florida=North Cuba


45 posted on 05/26/2012 9:16:22 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Clint N. Suhks

“....what next, ban fireplaces?”

Already happening in CA.


46 posted on 05/26/2012 9:55:56 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply ! ! ..)
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To: vette6387

South Florida = South New York City


47 posted on 05/26/2012 2:39:20 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Chen Guangcheng: Gutsy call, Obama /UltraMegaDrippingSarc)
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