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Romney adviser: Obama's birthplace not an issue in the race
Politico ^ | 5-25-12 | Maggie Habberman

Posted on 05/27/2012 9:56:45 AM PDT by raulgomez05

In advance of the fundraiser with Mitt Romney and Donald Trump on Tuesday, the candidate's senior adviser Eric Fehrnstrom tried to set the line on CNN a short time ago.

"I can't speak for Donald Trump," Fehrnstrom said. "But I can tell you that Mitt Romney accepts that President Obama was born in the United States. He doesn't view the place of his birth as an issue in this campaign."

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KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; ineligibleromney; ineligibles; moonbatbirthers; naturalborncitizen; news; romney4obama; romneyvsamerica
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Romney dealt a blow to the Birther movement.
1 posted on 05/27/2012 9:56:56 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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Dead - quisling - meat. Romeny only has the stomach to plague Republicans. If your enemy has a weak point, hell, even it isn’t true but can be exploited, you attack it. You attack the hell out of it. In the 50s I never expected such, but my country is lost.


2 posted on 05/27/2012 9:59:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: raulgomez05

BO’s father was a foreign national. This disqualifies BO as POTUS, even if BO had been born on U.S. soil. A natural born citizen has two citizen parents.


3 posted on 05/27/2012 10:02:27 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: raulgomez05
Birthplace not an issue... but birth certificate is.

I'll bet that he is Frank Marshall Davis’ illegitimate son.
Embarrassing No?

4 posted on 05/27/2012 10:05:20 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: raulgomez05

Yes, Romney blows.
Oh, not what you said.


5 posted on 05/27/2012 10:07:06 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: raulgomez05
So, Dumbney works for Wall Street & the Big Banks, just like D'ohBama.

Maybe Bank of Scamerica, Wells Fargo, Citi & Chase should just install voting software on their national ATMs, and we can skip the "suspense" & the "drama".

6 posted on 05/27/2012 10:07:23 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: raulgomez05

Birthplace is not the issue. It’s who his father is who matters and his ma was too young to confer natural born status upon him.


7 posted on 05/27/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: raulgomez05

Still, Politico trying to stir the pot. Get used to it; to some, that bait looks so tasty and irresistible.


8 posted on 05/27/2012 10:09:18 AM PDT by Dysart (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: raulgomez05

romney has nothing to do with whether or not the Constitution is upheld.

the only thing romney can control is whether or not his own name appears on the ballot in november. 0bama, having been born a british subject and an American citizen, is NOT a natural born citizen, by definition. his name appearing on the ballot should be contested and he should be forced to PROVE he should be allowed on it, not the other way around.

additionally, unless romney is in law enforcement, he has nothing to do with the investigation of fraud and forgery that has been committed.

thanks for stopping by mittens. i really don’t care about what one big govt progressive says about another


9 posted on 05/27/2012 10:09:36 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: raulgomez05

romney has nothing to do with whether or not the Constitution is upheld.

the only thing romney can control is whether or not his own name appears on the ballot in november. 0bama, having been born a british subject and an American citizen, is NOT a natural born citizen, by definition. his name appearing on the ballot should be contested and he should be forced to PROVE he should be allowed on it, not the other way around.

additionally, unless romney is in law enforcement, he has nothing to do with the investigation of fraud and forgery that has been committed.

thanks for stopping by mittens. i really don’t care what one big govt progressive says about another


10 posted on 05/27/2012 10:09:49 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: raulgomez05

C’mon. This is SMART on Romney’s part. Very smart. Romney doesn’t need the leftwing press, David Letterman and Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz criticizing him for being a “crazy birther”. It would be a needless distraction.

Let the underlings and supporters bring this up. But Romney should not. He should stay focused, like a laser beam, on the economy, the exploding debt, foreign affairs, Iran etc.


11 posted on 05/27/2012 10:10:29 AM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: raulgomez05
The sole fact that his father-of-record was not a US citizen makes Ubama ineligible.

It does not matter if he was born on the steps of the US capitol building.

12 posted on 05/27/2012 10:13:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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13 posted on 05/27/2012 10:18:12 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Dysart

Exactly. Looks like they are playing the part of good cop, bad cop. Let Trump play the birth issue and let Romney stay out of it.


14 posted on 05/27/2012 10:20:47 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

There is nothing wrong with surrogates playing the “0bama is unAmerican” card.


15 posted on 05/27/2012 10:25:02 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: raulgomez05

Next he’ll be telling us we “have nothing to fear from an Obama second term”.


16 posted on 05/27/2012 10:31:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Parley Baer
Exactly. Looks like they are playing the part of good cop, bad cop. Let Trump play the birth issue and let Romney stay out of it

Yep. My thoughts exactly. Romney doesn't have to wade into this murky issue. Let surrogates do it. The surrogates don't really have to do much either but just ask basic questions that have never been answered. The burdon of proof is on Obama's side.

17 posted on 05/27/2012 10:33:20 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: raulgomez05
Mitt Romney accepts that President Obama was born in the United States

Given that ... I'll throw up if Romney ends up being the GOP candidate.

18 posted on 05/27/2012 11:03:35 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: raulgomez05
"But I can tell you that Mitt Romney accepts that President Obama was born in the United States. He doesn't view the place of his birth as an issue in this campaign."

But the American People do see it as an issue !

19 posted on 05/27/2012 11:20:43 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Romney dealt a blow to the Birther movement.

It doesn't matter where Zippy was born, so Romney must be dealing a "blow" to himself.

20 posted on 05/27/2012 11:22:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: raulgomez05

Never be surprised at Willard’s limitless capacity to cave. He’s always been a quisling. except when it comes to savaging conservatives.


21 posted on 05/27/2012 11:30:40 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Signalman

Agree. He might be being McCain like and that would annoy.
If not, this is his only tactic.


22 posted on 05/27/2012 11:39:57 AM PDT by stanne
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To: CatherineofAragon
He’s always been a quisling. except when it comes to savaging conservatives.

Yup, he claimed to have no control over the superPACs when they were trashing the other GOP candidates but he sure didn't waste any time convincing them to back off on Jeremiah Wright. Conservatives are his enemy and his fellow progressives are mere political opponents.
23 posted on 05/27/2012 11:42:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: raulgomez05

Well what did anyone expect? Romney knows that birthers won’t vote for him so why should he defend them?


24 posted on 05/27/2012 11:43:38 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“But the American People do see it as an issue !”

No. They don’t. If they did we wouldn’t see this argument four years after 2008.


25 posted on 05/27/2012 11:43:46 AM PDT by stanne
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To: plain talk

You have it exactly right. Personally avoiding the birther issue is much like Romney’s agreeing to recognize Keynesian economics as being the current administration model. He didn’t adopt it, he just acknowledged Keynesians and where they have put us in terms of short term, available solutions.
Most of us would like an absolute hard line, but as we have seen with Obama’s political success, what you say and what you do don’t necessarily have any connection and most people are too stupid to see the difference. Hopefully, Romney will have an opportunity for the doing and not disappoint us.


26 posted on 05/27/2012 11:44:28 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: raulgomez05
I agree with Romney on this one. Where Obama was born is a distraction, which is ALWAYS denigrated by the MSM, thus alienating the undecided voters. Yes, it IS an important issue, but it would be a wasted effort since most folks just don't think in terms of what the Constitution says about who is qualified for the Office of the President. Yes, they should, but that's another whole issue.

Why spend the limited time we have before the elections in November on that? We should put our money and efforts into getting conservative ideas out there in the arena of ideas and convince the 'undecideds' that we have the solutions that actually WORK! We have actual DATA to show that our ideas work for the betterment of ALL citizens, as opposed to those of liberals.

We need to concentrate on electing conservative Republicans to Congress, because it is THEY who write the laws and dispense tax dollars. But it is also important that we elect Romney, who while he may not be as conservative as we like, will be MUCH more likely than Obama, to actually sign the legislation into law.

27 posted on 05/27/2012 11:48:07 AM PDT by SuziQ
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U-2012>But the American People do see it as an issue !

No. They don’t. If they did we wouldn’t see this argument four years after 2008.

It is real clear that the Republican Party
FAILED in it's opposition research.


28 posted on 05/27/2012 11:56:36 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: raulgomez05
"...I can tell you that Mitt Romney accepts that President Obama was born in the United States. He doesn't view the place of his birth as an issue in this campaign."

Typical quisling, GOPe, elitist drone. It's never been about Obama's birthplace, but I suppose you can't expect those fellow travelers to understand that.

These party apparatchiks don't understand the Framers' original intent with the NBC clause, nor to they care to know. They, and their frat brothers in the DNC, all agree that the Constitution is a musty, outdated relic of ancient history.

To hell with all of them.

29 posted on 05/27/2012 12:06:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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“Romney dealt a blow to the Birther movement.”

I disagree strongly.

Willard indirectly endorsed Trump's “birtherism” when he embraced not only Trump's endorsement but in promoting Trump as a surrogate, i.e. a man whose opinion he values and whom he is asking others to respect.

Willard's strategy is tactically brilliant and cynical, which is to distance himself personally from Trump's “birtherism” while endorsing Trump as a wise and valued counsel.

Willard is only saying his campaign is not going to directly pursue Barry's ineligibility, but Willard has not denounced Trump's past and recent statements on the merits.

This is driving Barry, Axelrod and Jarrett crazy as all of their surrogates are falling all over themselves to try to get Willard to denounce Trump's statement, but he hasn't, yet!

30 posted on 05/27/2012 12:07:33 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Signalman
Let the underlings and supporters bring this up. But Romney should not. He should stay focused, like a laser beam, on the economy, the exploding debt, foreign affairs, Iran etc.

Yes, because we unknown and faceless citizens have so much clout in the press. /sarc

31 posted on 05/27/2012 12:10:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: raulgomez05

Further proof they’re all one party.


32 posted on 05/27/2012 12:13:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: raulgomez05

It’s interesting how both parties keep the deception going that the ‘issue’ is birth place and therefore a non issue. The real issue is, and always has been, is he NBC. Neither party has the guts to take the issue on so they deflect it into something easy to classify as a non issue.


33 posted on 05/27/2012 12:15:16 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Seizethecarp
Willard is only saying his campaign is not going to directly pursue Barry's ineligibility, but Willard has not denounced Trump's past and recent statements on the merits.

Bingo! Romney may be the first GOP candidate in a while who has figured out how to use surrogates.

There's no gain for Romney to take a position in the "birther" controversy. Nobody has yet developed any proof that Obama might be in eligible. All is speculation, so the default position is that he is eligible.

Let Trump pursue that line of attack. See if he can generate some proof. If he can, well and good. If he can't, no harm done.

In any event, Romney is going to have to beat Obama at the polls -- not in the courts.

34 posted on 05/27/2012 12:24:10 PM PDT by okie01
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, and thanks for the reminder that he’s a liar, too, LOL.


35 posted on 05/27/2012 12:34:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: raulgomez05

stupid issue for Romney if he can’t prove it..


36 posted on 05/27/2012 12:35:49 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: raulgomez05
Winning is not an issue for romney either... the gop/e and mitt are blowing what could be the largest damaging election against the dims in several lifetimes.

LLS

37 posted on 05/27/2012 12:37:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: raulgomez05

Romney better grow a pair of b@11$ or he’s toast.


38 posted on 05/27/2012 1:16:25 PM PDT by kenmcg (How)
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To: Gaffer

It is time for the RNC to DUMP Romney!


39 posted on 05/27/2012 1:19:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: CPT Clay

“I’ll bet that he is Frank Marshall Davis’ illegitimate son.”

I have often wondered if that is not the evidence that those in the know have access to. To open that can of worms would be too much for them to bear. BHO would then have the “blood of slaves” in his genes and everyone would then be a racist who did not vote for him. BHO’s mother was “very close” to the communist, Davis though.


40 posted on 05/27/2012 1:20:08 PM PDT by Phosgood ("Send in the clowns" .. but wait ..............they're here! >..<)
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To: okie01

Correct.

There is limited upside on targeting Obama’s birthplace, Obama may or may not be forced to withdraw, and it would not impact his most ardent believers.

Then in the event everything is fine, Romney is painted as being a part of the fringe right wing and a kook.

My honest opinion, it’s a non-issue, we have 535 people in congress all of which have their own political ambitions. It has been said that 100 of those, senators, all believe they have the qualifications to be President.

So there are three options,

1.) Obama may not eligible to hold the presidency, and 535 people have not found a political gain from that information .

2.) Obama may not eligible to hold the presidency, and those out of the 535 whom have brought up the issue have been bought off.

3.) Obama is eligible.

Pick one.


41 posted on 05/27/2012 1:22:30 PM PDT by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: Eye of Unk

Aside form the legal issue, it’s a very polarizing and divisive issue between the left and right. Romney is simply trying to sway democrat voters onto his side. They’re in play due to losing their houses, being out of work and suffering like the rest of us. To focus on birther issues will infuriate those voters who would otherwise be thinking of coming over to Romney. It’s a reasonable tactic.


42 posted on 05/27/2012 1:31:18 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: raulgomez05

Romney just needs to keep his mouth shut on this issue or just say “I Don’t Know!” He is not good on his feet and his handlers do not have the ability to put a sock in his mouth.

Reminds me of our former Macca SEN candidate from VA.,


43 posted on 05/27/2012 1:44:49 PM PDT by Phosgood ("Send in the clowns" .. but wait ..............they're here! >..<)
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To: thecodont
"BO’s father was a foreign national. This disqualifies BO as POTUS, even if BO had been born on U.S. soil. A natural born citizen has two citizen parents."

Yes, and isn't it encouraging to see that more and more people understand the constitutional issue. As another contributor pointed out, the enormous effort to promote the Alinsky tactic, ‘birthers’, probably has had impact. Obama is so frightening, as people see the world's economy collapsing, and see that Obama's banker sponsors see it as an opportunity, Romney doesn't need to join the eligibility issue. Romney was the establishment candidate, and the Republican establishment, every US Senator, signed SR 511, clearly agreeing that a natural born citizen must have two citiizen parents. Many of them supported the Obama/McCaskill bill in Feb 2008, the the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. This bill was not accident. It was the next to last attempt to claim that McCain was eligible. It failed. SR 511 was, of course, a ‘resolution’ - not actionable.

Remember, Barack has never once claimed to be a natural born citizen. Nancy Pelosi has, by inference, made one such claim in writing, and even that was intentionally fudged by having her sign two affirmations of candidate eligiblity, one mentioned the Constitution, the other didn't. This was for Hawaii. Barack, in fact, told us, on his web site, that he was a 'native-born citizen of the U.S.', which is the confusing language for a naturalized, a 14th Amendment citizen. He didn't lie. He has always asserted that the Constitution is a dated document which doesn't let him do what he believes our citizens need. What he claimed, and every one avoids, implies that any 'anchor baby', the child born to Jihadi terrorists in a cave in Arizona as they await their orders, raised by them under the cover used by millions of illegal aliens, would become eligible to the presidency at 35. That is nonsense, and not so different from the child of secret royalists who never naturalized.

Romney's principal sponsors supportet the inelibile McCain.

Without McCain, some senator would have joined Nathan Deal to ask for vetting of Obama. McCain was vetted, and never found eligible. 511 simply said “We think McCain deserves to have the chance to run, even if he isn't constitutionally eligible.

If Obama was born to a citizen, he attained the office, accepted campaign finances, took the oath of office knowing he was lying. Betting that no politician would bring him up on charges, given the example of Scooter Libby's prosecution, when Justice knew before the charges were even announced. that Richard Armitqge had confessed. But understanding the Constitution remains important. Republican might prefer not to face Hillary, who would be Obama’s likely replacement. But there is no doubt that Hillary was well aware of the Constitutional truth.

Keep up the clear explanations. Others are becoming aware of the truth. The more anyone reads the concise and correct legal explanations on FR, the more they will realize how many FR contributors are antagonists - Obots - and clever ones, because their objective has been to redirect discussion, and avoid constitutional analysis, because there is now so much correct information available, thanks largely to Mario Apuzzo and Leo Donofrio.

44 posted on 05/27/2012 1:52:35 PM PDT by Spaulding
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-——Romney dealt a blow to the Birther movement.-——

Good for Myth....The birther movement is a losing issue....in this election

I certainly understand all the ramifactions of the issue and to a certain degree think important for future elections...

Bottomline is Obama is ALREADY POTUS and was voted in by a large majority of voters....the SCOTUS isn’t going to touch it with a 10 ft pole since they are loath to get involved in an issue settled by the American people...

Myth needs to distance himself from the issue so not to let the MSM paint him as fringe...


45 posted on 05/27/2012 2:00:23 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: raulgomez05

I agree that Romney should refrain from attacking Obama on the birther issue. Let others do it for him.

But that does NOT mean that it’s his job to DEFEND Obama, or to say that it has no relevance to the campaign. Nonsense. Of course it has relevance that the man in the White House is probably an illegal alien who has twice forged his COLB and constantly lies about his origins and most of the happenings in his life.

If, as seems extremely probable, Obama is not qualified to be President, then that is certainly relevant to the campaign.

The Republican candidate should say that it’s not his job to say where Obama was born. Let Obama address the issue if there are any questions. And leave it at that.

But as many Freepers have observed, Romney only attacks his opponents when they are conservatives. Then as soon as a Democrat appears on the scene, he starts making nice. Much like McCain, only far worse.


46 posted on 05/27/2012 2:48:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Brellium
Pick one.

I'm sure you're not interested in elevating this to a debate. And neither am I.

But I've always believed that there was only one "birther" argument that was worth pursuing. Was Obama born in the USA....or was he not? The outcome of any such investigation -- delivering proof, one way or another -- could be considered dispository.

The natural-born citizen argument has always struck me as a red herring. Everybody who gave a damn about who was going to be elected in 2008 already knew that Obama's daddy had been born in Kenya. Obama himself had written of it. If that singular event made him ineligible for the office of the President, why didn't even one of the thousands of politicians and lawyers and scholars whose business it is to know the Constitution and Electoral Law come forward with that proposition?

To my knowledge, none did...until we were several years into Obama's term. And, even then, we are left with an argument that can only be decided by a court -- whose verdict will never be announced so long as Obama is an elected President.

What an utter waste of effort...

47 posted on 05/27/2012 5:19:42 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

It’s not the birthplace of BO’s dad that disqualified BO from being POTUS. It was the citizenship of BO’s dad at BO’s birth that did it. He was a foreign national, not a naturalized citizen of the United States of America.


48 posted on 05/27/2012 5:22:38 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I don’t understand how this point keeps getting lost and I’m glad you posted it - again.


49 posted on 05/27/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! OMG PLEASE vote ABO or OWW and our Country dies.)
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To: thecodont
It’s not the birthplace of BO’s dad that disqualified BO from being POTUS. It was the citizenship of BO’s dad at BO’s birth that did it. He was a foreign national, not a naturalized citizen of the United States of America.

I understand your argument perfectly. However, it reflects nothing more than an opinion on a legal matter which is yet to be resolved.

You're free to cite cases. But it remains your opinion. As such, it has no legal weight. And it will never be adjudicated during Obama's current term.

Therefore, it is irrelevant in a practical sense.

I'm sorry. But that's the truth.

50 posted on 05/27/2012 9:57:41 PM PDT by okie01
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