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Special Report: Preparing for Disaster - Part 2
FOX10TV ^ | May 24, 2012 | Hal Scheurich

Posted on 05/27/2012 12:55:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro

In some way, we all prepare for the diversity and changes life is sure to throw at us. But, some put a lot more thought and effort into it than others. They call themselves “preppers” and there are many living among us. When disaster strikes, they’re ready for the worst-case scenarios.

In part one of Preparing for Disaster; we introduced you to Justin Teet.

Teet lives in a heavily populated suburb of Mobile and is ready to “bug out” if disaster strikes. He has stockpiled provisions for his family, but with a panicked population, he feels the best place for his family is away from home.

“The more people, the more people are going to need supplies; and the more people you’re going to have to worry about,” Teet said.

Far from the busy city streets you can find more preppers, but these country preppers are of a different mind set. They don’t plan on going anywhere. Valerie from Baldwin County is one of them.

She’s part of a group of women that call themselves the “Prepper Chicks.” She and her family have put together at least a year’s supply of some necessities.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox10tv.com ...


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KEYWORDS: preppers; prepping; shtf; survival; teotwawki
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1 posted on 05/27/2012 12:55:59 PM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro

It may have been fate but I settled in rural Alaska. No bug out in plan, too remote and very defensible plus food is very much available from fish to mosse almost year round.

But I do have to date 24 number 10 cans of Augason Farms freeze dried emergency foods. And bottled water all stashed in a travel trailer capable of being off the grid.

I pity those that have to plan about evading the city mobs, checkpoints and general urban suffrage.


2 posted on 05/27/2012 1:01:24 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Kartographer; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ..

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3 posted on 05/27/2012 1:02:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro
Security During a Break Down
4 posted on 05/27/2012 1:05:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Eye of Unk
I settled in rural Alaska. No bug out in plan, too remote and very defensible plus food is very much available from fish to mosse almost year round.

You are way ahead of most of us - You are already living the ultimate Bug-Out-Plan!


5 posted on 05/27/2012 1:08:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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6 posted on 05/27/2012 1:10:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro

Sorry, a typo, I meant moose. For the last 10 years I have been too busy working to take time off for fishing, I mean King salmon fishing, we have a very good spot just 20 miles north of me, average fish is over 15 pounds with a lot getting over 30. I use 100lb Spectra line, a light surf rod and 120lb steel leaders.

But this year my job is a whole lot less demanding, I actually may have time to take my son fishing for the Kings.


7 posted on 05/27/2012 1:15:59 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Is there a limit on the salmon or can you just take what you need?


8 posted on 05/27/2012 1:23:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro
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9 posted on 05/27/2012 1:27:05 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro

For me yes a limit cause I’m a white boy. But my grandaughter is half native and technically she can fish for subsistence.

I have not fished in years but there is a limit per person per day set by Fish and Game. From what I am hearing this years salmon run may be quite good, in years past its been heavily restricted or even closed.

Mostly though I think I can can legally fish a dozen per day, but where I fish its almost shoulder to shoulder combat fishing, no bait allowed, no roe. Funny thing is sometime a sparay of WD40 will attract a fish, go figure.

My largest was a 35 pounder King, I don’t play fair and I use expensive Spectra line, I’ll just horse the fish in.


10 posted on 05/27/2012 1:39:46 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk
Sorry, a typo, I meant moose.

Unless you're talking more than one, then it's meese!

11 posted on 05/27/2012 2:38:08 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Eye of Unk
http://iceagenow.info

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12 posted on 05/27/2012 2:41:01 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Security During a Break Down

Good listen. Basically don't put all your eggs in the same basket and know when you're first being attacked before it escalates.

13 posted on 05/27/2012 3:55:34 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Eye of Unk

I live a small town. 5 miles away and you are in the forests of KY. Friend has a nice piece of property that is geographically perfect for a firing range. I use it at least twice a week for practice. Usually the 22 Marlin 795 because of ammo cost. But as you Appleseed folks know, that works for all your long guns. I love my AR15, but ammo costs mean I have to be somewhat frugal with it.

My opinion? If you own only one long gun for protection, make it a shotgun.

The first 3 things you do if you live in an urban area and the SHTF?

1- get out of the city
2- get out of the city
3- get out of the city


14 posted on 05/27/2012 3:57:07 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Eye of Unk

WD40 is processed fish oil.....


15 posted on 05/27/2012 4:06:26 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: Iron Munro

“You are already living the ultimate Bug-Out-Plan!”

Unless Fukushima does all of us in the Northern Hemisphere in first.


16 posted on 05/27/2012 4:16:58 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Sorry but that is terrible advise. For some of us, where are we going to go? Is some compassionate country dweller going to take us in?

Plus if SHTF, are the roads even going to be passable? Is sitting in a five mile long traffic jam that never moves better than staying in your home in the city?

Sure I would love to be away from the city if SHTF but for some of us, it is not possible. I’ll stand and fight where I am. I have prepped as best I can and will stay unless it is the last resort.


17 posted on 05/27/2012 6:26:41 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Iron Munro

bump


18 posted on 05/27/2012 6:30:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Iron Munro

bump


19 posted on 05/27/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Iron Munro

If there is a ping list for this please put me on it. Thanks...


20 posted on 05/27/2012 6:51:25 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Iron Munro
People panicked and most of the people that were doing the looting and the robbing probably didn’t do anything like that a day in their life

Yeah right!!!!

21 posted on 05/27/2012 7:03:34 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: packrat35
The typical prepper thinks in terms of sequestering themselves in some secure location while the world around them goes to heck.

A better and more realistic model might involve becoming part of a group that can efficiently secure and police large tracts of land - perhaps entire sections of cities.

22 posted on 05/27/2012 7:04:06 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: packrat35
The typical prepper thinks in terms of sequestering themselves in some secure location while the world around them goes to heck.

A better and more realistic model might involve becoming part of a group that can efficiently secure and police large tracts of land - perhaps entire sections of cities.

23 posted on 05/27/2012 7:04:15 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Eye of Unk

When the SHTF there will be no enforcement, except from the landowner if you are on private property.


24 posted on 05/27/2012 7:14:17 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: packrat35; ChildOfThe60s

Consider a compromise. Buging-in but in town. Most town have out of the where spots. If there is a group you might consider renting a out of the way small commercial building, possible a warehouse with drive in doors that would allow you to conceal your vehicles. Somewhere big enough you each place a large yard barn type building to store equipment and even use as temporary living quarters so you don’t have to heat the whole building and if the roof leak or the buildings drafty you can be nice and snug and have a bit of privacy. Most commercial builds would also be better suited for defense than the average home. Just my thoughts.


25 posted on 05/27/2012 7:18:52 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Eye of Unk
Reading all of your posts and the others directed to you, I see that it will be your private property. Also you are talking about currently, but when the SHTF you only would want what you need anyway. I thought about moving to Alaska, but I do not think I could handle the cold.

Brrrrrrrrr.

26 posted on 05/27/2012 7:20:22 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Kartographer; ColdSteelTalon
If there is a ping list for this please put me on it. Thanks...

ColdSteelTalon,

The Preparedness Ping list is managed by Kartographer so I am pinging him on this response to your request.


27 posted on 05/27/2012 7:52:35 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: Robert DeLong
People panicked and most of the people that were doing the looting and the robbing probably didn’t do anything like that a day in their life

Yeah right!!!!

They were all nice people before this one misstep.

Their neighbors all liked them.
Their first grade teachers liked them.
They always helped little old ladies across the street.
They took in lost pets and fed the birdies.

/s


28 posted on 05/27/2012 8:07:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: prairiebreeze

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29 posted on 05/27/2012 8:16:36 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: packrat35

I understand what you are saying. You do what you can with the situation you are handed.

We live about 35 miles outside a major city. Our kid lives in that city. She thinks I am a tin foil hatter, but she owns a couple of hand guns and a shotgun. And she is *highly* trained in the use of them. I gave her 50 rounds of 00 buckshot because I know she doesn’t keep a lot of ammo around.

I worry that she can get out in the event of a bad scenario. OTOH, I figure with her training and weapons, she’s as capable as any to get here.

So much depends on how fast it happens, if it does. We are heading into completely uncharted territory.


30 posted on 05/27/2012 8:19:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Eye of Unk
It may have been fate but I settled in rural Alaska. No bug out in plan, too remote and very defensible plus food is very much available from fish to mosse almost year round.

You think your so smart, but what are you gonna do when you're over run by thousands of maurading penguins? ;o)

31 posted on 05/27/2012 8:23:39 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

can she walk out? - I assume the roads will become self jamming parking lots


32 posted on 05/27/2012 8:46:05 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: redlegplanner
can she walk out? - I assume the roads will become self jamming parking lots

Theoretically, yes. There are no geographic restrictions, like rivers that would preclude it. And she is certainly capable of hiking 35 miles.

One of the problems with discussions like this is, none of us know where we might be at the moment the disaster takes place. If I am on a business trip out of state, I am screwed.

People that have prepared refuges and safe havens hundreds of miles from where they normally live are not likely to actually get there to use them. Or, if they do, they may well find them occupied.

Watch the signs. 3 days before the crash you can bet the government and its lackeys in the media will be telling us that all is well, the corner has been turned. If I get any indication that something is coming down, I'm not leaving town.

There is no substitute for sound preparation. But there is also no substitute for plain old good luck.

33 posted on 05/27/2012 9:00:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: papertyger
Well I know a few friends...
34 posted on 05/27/2012 9:18:51 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Errant
I've read both books by Robert Felix. His website is constantly updated. The item that catches my attention today is cycles. Felix identifies a long list of periodic geophysical/astrophysical cycles in his books. An important list of them are precursors to the start of an ice age. They are all synchronizing right now as they have prior to other ice ages. The key problem is food production. You can't grow food when it is too cold...unless you make massive preparations to do so in advance. The show gets underway this Winter (2012/2013). Lots of "chaos" from 2013 to 2017. Cold for the rest our natural lives from that point forward. Meanwhile, we trifle with stupidity in the management of budgets.

All of the cycles are coming together.

22yr Hale
179yr barycentric
1450yr Bond
23,000yr precession
25,800yr plane
100,000yr ice age (when all solar-planetary cycles converge as they are now)…”
See: link

35 posted on 05/27/2012 9:20:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: papertyger
They say a penguin tastes like chicken dipped in motor oil.
36 posted on 05/27/2012 9:22:02 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk

You’re wired into the Poosenschlagers!

God help those little, formally attired bastards!


37 posted on 05/27/2012 10:01:59 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Myrddin
I visit his site usually several times a week. We've exchanged a few emails and he has posted information that I've sent to him.

Another really good site, just ignore the name, is http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/. Very updated and occasionally he shares his thoughts.

Meanwhile, we trifle with stupidity in the management of budgets. All of the cycles are coming together.

Including those cycles related to civilization, this time on a global scale, it seems.

You're going to need God or luck in the sanctuary selection process, or be able to adjust as conditions warrant.

I highly recommend "The Harbinger", by Cahn and "The End of America" by Price for thought food. Mr. Rawling's site http://www.survivalblog.com is one of the best for information about preparation and what could be just around the corner, as you probably already know.

Just guessing, but the American Bible Belt, parts of Africa, Panama, Chile, Australia, places where there are good and honest God fearing folk and obvious signs of God's blessings on the land are places I would consider.

Like you, I believe the climate is going to become much colder. Also, I think we may see an increase in earthquakes and volcanic activity as part of a separate cycle. And I'm looking for temperature extremes this summer as the world's thermal conveyance changes.

38 posted on 05/27/2012 11:12:46 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Kartographer

I have prepped my house and am always stockpiling but I am 50 years old in decent health. I am overweight. My wife and her sister live with me and both have health issues. I simply cannot leave easily unless I leave them behind. This I will not do.

I have hardened my house and will do what I can but this will be my stand most likely. I do not wish to be a refugee wondering the wilderness begging for scraps with 2 women with health problems.

I can defend this house better than trying to flee into the unknown. If I had another 2 years, I might have been able to do more, but I do not think we have another 6 months. My money only goes so far.

I will not post all the details of my prep on an open forum but I have prepared for past year especially and started a couple of years before that.

I have made friends with some younger people in the neighborhood and have made note of others with useful skills that may form a defensive core group but I cannot be sure till SHTF how they will react. As such, I basically count on for what I can control for now.


39 posted on 05/28/2012 12:31:34 AM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Iron Munro
If we have a total economic collapse, most people in this country are pretty much screwed. City dwellers will quickly become predator or prey. There isn't going to be any holing up in an apartment or commercial building. Mobs will break into every building looking for food, water and weapons. Once everything starts grinding to a halt, the predators will start mobilizing. Traffic will be snarled and walking out will just get you killed. That's just the reality.

Only those in the remotest locations will be insulated from the mob violence. And of those, only the ones who stored up supplies will be able to survive until new food sources are cultivated. In Alaska, those who are way out in the wilderness will be the ones best off, if they have a sufficient food supply. Of the people who live in population centers, the ones who live on an airstrip property and own a plane will be in the best position to bug out.

Bugging in is an option only for small scale disasters, like a week-long power outage or an earthquake that doesn't cripple the entire economy. But when our economy collapses under the weight of all the accumulated debt, we will be in deep feces and it will get really ugly for most of the population.

40 posted on 05/28/2012 12:52:53 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“One of the problems with discussions like this is, none of us know where we might be at the moment the disaster takes place. If I am on a business trip out of state, I am screwed.

People that have prepared refuges and safe havens hundreds of miles from where they normally live are not likely to actually get there to use them. Or, if they do, they may well find them occupied. “

Well said.


41 posted on 05/28/2012 7:30:22 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton; Errant

I’m on a perpetual business trip. My family is in Idaho. A smaller city than San Diego where I’m working. The bookmark is halfway through “The Harbinger”. My oldest son died May 17. I’m on my last day at home in Idaho helping my wife. One fewer medically fragile member of our household to shepherd through a disaster. The extended trip has squeezed resources and made proper preparation nearly impossible. Still, we will figure out how to survive. We are industrious and capable.


42 posted on 05/28/2012 8:36:18 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I am so sorry. Prayers for your son, and for you & your family.


43 posted on 05/28/2012 8:57:19 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Myrddin
I'm very sorry to hear of your Son passing. God be with you through difficult times. Though we can't see it now, never doubt that God has a plan for all of us that trust in him, and it will be revealed in the end.
44 posted on 05/28/2012 9:23:00 AM PDT by Errant
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To: The Duke
A better and more realistic model might involve becoming part of a group that can efficiently secure and police large tracts of land - perhaps entire sections of cities.

Makes allot of sense. Ideally a small town out in the country would work best where everyone can pool their resources.

45 posted on 05/28/2012 9:56:44 AM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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To: patton; Errant
Thanks. Daniel survived 4 open heart surgeries and two artificial valves by age 17. He passed at age 32. He was disappointed that he wasn't able to go on a mission for the church. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's doing now. We were pleasantly surprised at the turnout for his memorial. His circle of friends was enormous.

Daniel had pneumonia in his final week. The "Z-Pak" antibiotics prescribed have been identified as having a high probability of sudden cardiac death in cardiac patients. It appears that is how he passed. He would have been hard pressed to survive in a disaster. I'll miss him very much. Our pets were very attached to him. They are still quite confused at the new situation.

46 posted on 05/28/2012 10:47:59 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I cried like a baby, when I read your post. As I imagine you did, when you wrote it.

I wish I could help.


47 posted on 05/28/2012 12:18:02 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton
It's been a really hard week. Daniel should still be here. Unfortunately, it's an unrecoverable situation. I'll drive back to San Diego in the morning. Cheri returns to work at 11 PM tomorrow. We keep running into things all over town and around the house that remind us of the good times here.
48 posted on 05/28/2012 9:43:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: patton; ChildOfThe60s; All

>> none of us know where we might be at the moment the disaster takes place <<

That’s why prepping should become part of your everyday life. Each day, I take my 3-day bag with me to work. I top off the service truck each day on the way home. My personal truck’s gas tank stays topped off. Between the 2, that’s 50+ gallons of gas I have onsite.

Make the day to day preps simple. After a while they become automatic.

Prepping isn’t something you do for a week and then forget about, it’s more of a lifestyle.


49 posted on 05/29/2012 6:46:57 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Eye of Unk
"but where I fish its almost shoulder to shoulder combat fishing"

lol...the first time we drove to Alaska to fish...no plans...just seat of our pants type fishing....and of course, we knew nothing about where to fish or what equipment to bring....so we packed up our heavy duty rods and went...

we ended up fishing right in Ship Canel.....all day and all night people were there...families...couples..

each person had about 6 feet to themselves...you basically threw your bait in a few feet to your left, and the current would take it down the river a few yards and then you had to retrieve it and slap it down into the water again...

believe it or not....it was the MOST fun ....people were happy...people caught big fish....myself, a nice 35 pounder which strangers had to help me pull in because hubby was trying his luck on the other side of the river....

occassionally you would see the real fishermen..the natives mostly...go out in their waders and fight a big fish 100yards or so down the river...just amazing...

this was basically in downtown Anchorage......

50 posted on 05/30/2012 10:06:02 AM PDT by cherry
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