Skip to comments.Of new U.S. veterans, almost half seek disability aid
Posted on 05/27/2012 2:36:53 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
America's newest veterans are filing for disability benefits at a historic rate, claiming to be the most medically and mentally troubled generation of former troops the nation has ever seen.
A staggering 45 percent of the 1.6 million veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are now seeking compensation for injuries they say are service-related. That is more than double the estimate of 21 percent who filed such claims after the Gulf War in the early 1990s, top government officials said.
What's more, these new veterans are claiming eight to nine ailments on average, and the most recent ones over the last year are claiming 11 to 14. By comparison, Vietnam veterans are currently receiving compensation for fewer than four, on average, and those from World War II and Korea, just two.
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Of those who have sought VA care:
--More than 1,600 of them lost a limb; many others lost fingers or toes.
--At least 156 are blind, and thousands of others have impaired vision.
--More than 177,000 have hearing loss, and more than 350,000 report tinnitus -- noise or ringing in the ears.
--Thousands are disfigured, as many as 200 of them so badly that they may need face transplants. One-quarter of battlefield injuries requiring evacuation included wounds to the face or jaw, one study found.
I believe it.
Sadly with so many of our military men and women, including National Guard and Reserves being sent by our Government to active combat zones on multiple tours it is very understandable.
Huh. I have had ringing in my ears ever since I left the service at the tail end of the Vietnam conflict. Never thought to file for disability.
And still won’t.
One of my friends was part of a tank crew and is really screwed up both physically and mentally. Him I understand. Still uses a cane and wakes up screaming almost every night.
I walk around with a nice scar on my left shoulder from being shot. Looks ugly so i don’t go shirtless or wear a tank top. When i did, i was asked too many questions. After a while, you really don’t want to talk about it.
And I am in DC for Rolling Thunder!
The hearing loss and tinitus is mostly a BS ailment. I wonder how much they get. The rest listed are certainly valid and we, the people, should pony up to take care of our military once they deros.
They may be being encouraged to file for disability. Then they don’t have to count you as unemployed.
When I retired, we had an outbrief from some VA drone. He practically begged us to get a VA physical and apply for disability benefits. Even if you DIDN’T THINK anything was wrong with you.
I will ditto tailback on this one. My ears ring all the time. It’s from military service. It’s fine with background noise, but loud as he’ll going to sleep. I can cope by using a “squirrel cage” fan which is very loud. I have not filed for disability but my hearing is deteriorating at middle 40’s.
I won’t try to file until I need hearing aids.
Audiology exams difficult to fake nowadays.
I’ve got hearing loss in both ears, with a 70dB threshold at 6,000Hz. Never thought about the disability angle.
Well don't be a hypocrite, punk. If you get cancer or a brain aneurysm you just go right ahead and tell them not to use those BS machines on you because you know for a fact the things they show aren't real.
You will have no problem doing that, because you weren't talking out your ass, right?
Is the incident in which you lost partial hearing fully documented? If not, try proving it 20-30 years hence.
Here's a suggestion. Free. Take one of those no-cost hearing tests. They may be able to tell you what range of hearing loss you suffer from and give you some idea of what to do.
Hearing aids may run $5K-for a good one.
It’s probably about the same amount of paperwork whether it’s 10% or 100%. The VA drone is there to generate paperwork. In Washington generating paperwork creates jobs.
I declined the letter, and had the test done in a frequency that I can hear.
An interesting side note is that my hearing loss is a nice notch filter that excludes shrill females and most whiney teenagers.
My grandchildren catch my eye to talk to me so I can read their lips.
So was I. Wonder how many were there today? I think that at least three of the Pentagon parking lots got packed.
My hearing is blown as well. I'm not disabled- folks just need to stop mumbling and sound the F off. :-)
Never filed any claim either, that's just the breaks.
Husband has both and gets 0% for it and he had an anti-tank grenade nearly take off his head to be blunt. I think the hearing loss has to be pretty severe to get any kind of rating for it.
I was diagnosed at 30 percent loss on exit. I think I can get the hearing aids paid for.
Very, very difficult to get 100%. Requires mountains of paperwork. Many exams. 10% for tinnitus is the max. One exam. One audiology exam. Reviewed by Regional office. Ruling issued.
Our troops make so many tours in combat now, I am amazed that so many make it out alive. Yeah, I have tinnitus and nerve deafness too. RVN 69-70.
I do not deny that it exists. But in this day and age, so much hearing degradation occurs from the music and never ending environmental noise before even entering the service. And it is NOT difficult to cheat the system on this one. Just sit there and do not respond. How hard is that! I have tinitus, and it was exacerbated to some extent during my stint in the army. We did not have noise protection gear when firing tanks or any arms. And of course, I did not claim it either. Yes, if a blast goes off closeby, get the disability. But waaaay too many and waaay too easy to claim.
I would suggest he refile using a skilled VSO. And all the documentation he can come up with.
Eh!? Can’t hear ya Edd. Ears are ringin!
Rethink that. If you get hearing aids, you have to listen to people. For important stuff, like morse code, you can get a cool DSP audio filter that can notch everything out but what you want to hear, and shift the frequency to something you can hear.
Mostly deaf isn't bad when you have family like mine. I'd never get hearing aids.
Same thing here. I was told that after 25 years on the flight line, I was almost certain to get disability for hearing. I said, “Huh?” and left.
I have mild hearing loss, but I expected that with so much exposure to jet engines. The truth is, if they would let me fly again, I’d walk across broken glass to get there! How could I collect disability for that?
But the VA is pushing benefits, and their doctors aren’t all that honest, IMHO. If you are an administrator, and you want a bigger program, you need more people to need you...
We had hearing protection. The “soft” plastic variety. Non of them fit my ear correctly. I use the foam stuff now (around diesel generators, electric motors etc) they work just fine. My issue earplugs always fell out!
I do a lot of shooting. With pistols and rifles, muffs are OK, but for shotgun sports they interfere with gun mount. So I used disposable plugs for a long time. Finally they started to hurt because to get any kind of protection I had to screw them halfway into my brain.
I got some custom plugs professionally made a month ago. They block out just about everything and I can wear them for 6 hours without any discomfort. I went for maximum attenuation, but they also make them with filters or electronics to allow hearing speech, but still having protection.
I guarantee you’ll love them.
They like paperwork. They'll hire some affirmative action bureaucrat drones to take care of it. They count those as "jobs created".
You chose the warrior life because it is in your blood.
The long term trend I see for the military is that labor costs will eventually overwhelm us, and that the focus will become more female oriented and about quality of life issues, social issues etc.
A volunteer military naturally starts focusing on pay and benefits in time, and everyone starts seeing it as a career more along the lines of other government jobs.
We will get farther and farther away from the days when we could attract a semi-pro level athlete with an IQ of 140 and executive skills, and the courage of a hero for the Green Berets for $10,000.00 a year, as the females and homosexuals fill the officer corp and become Generals the budget focus will move more and more to the human element and their families, and their financial compensation in relation to the rest of the federal employees.
I don’t know if the military would ever unionize, but it will take on some of that type of lobbying unity.
We are at war now, but many of us know what happens and who gets all the power during long stretches of peace time. When the military and officer corp is 50% females, and we have all the liberalism of a teachers union spread among our ranks and officers, the military will lose it’s traditional atmosphere and warrior culture, and spirit of masculine sacrifice and emphasis on adventure over pay and personal well being and health.
These statistics sound like a crock of BS
All too probable. I was surprised at the recent polls now on how they may vote, if accurate. But the body of Christ must be the real focus, and security found in Him.
If those Veterans have need for Medical Support they should get it.They Earned that support through their Honorable service to this country.Unlike a lot of clowns in the United States Congress and Senate.
Also Put these Veterans way ahead of the illegal Alians who are here suck off of Uncle Same Health care dollars.As I said they Earned it.
The hearing loss and tinitus is mostly a BS ailment. I wonder how much they get. The rest listed are certainly valid and we, the people, should pony up to take care of our military once they deros
Have you ever had an explosion go off next to you?I can almost gaurantee you have never been in a position to have something like that happen.
Hearing Loss is Not a BS ailment.
A lot of people predicted that we would get to this point under HW Bush when the bulk of the military moved from open squad bays to dormitory style quarters.
Go back to sixty man rooms (living out of two seabags and a footlocker) and the bulk of the troops will leave before retirement or acquiring injuries that take an extended exposure.
You are one sick jerk...
Will the VA pay for hearing aid? They should
Yes. The VA will pay for hearing air if hearing loss service connected.Or in the case of extremely indigent. Or 100% for other injuries/disabilities. Less even on occasion.
And one must pick and choose their VSO carefully. It is not a one size fits all thingy. Word of mouth. Phone calls/emails, etc. Local veterans boards online. It is worth the trouble, upfront.
I fear you are right. When women and homosexuals get together, the peacetime military will be unbearable for anyone of spirit.
At the last family reunion, down at the range, both an uncle, and my brother asked why I bother with hearing protection.
I explained that it was good practice, a good example for the young people, and I had a QSO later that night using CW. I could use a computer for CW, but I prefer to hear it for myself.
I'm not interested in making anyone else pay for that personal preference.
My alleged disability, even in the service of my country, doesn't obligate other people.
Many vets may have had minimal problem with their service connected tinnitus until later in life. Many medications (Beta-blockers in particular) raise hell with tinnitus. What may have been mere "water running" now sounds like Niagara Falls.
Hubby had his left ear halfway blown off in Vietnam and is about 50% deaf in that ear. I don’t know if he is ignoring us or really can’t hear us but he leaves us alone and stays in his own world. Lol
Oh yeah, and he has never filed for any disability.
Give him a hug, thank him for his service and tell him it's from an old AF TSgt.
Any ass-grabbing is on your own dime.
I have a set of electronic ear muffs but I don’t like them for the reasons you give. I have seen the in-ear attenuators and enhancers. I am eager to try a set.
Two old timers are sitting on a bench outside the VA.
The first says, “What’s new?”
“Oh, I got this fantastic new hearing aid at the VA! It’s the latest technology, the doc said no expense was spared since nothing is too good for our veterans!”
“Gosh, that’s wonderful!” the first one says. “What kind is it?”
The second glances at his watch and says “It’s 1500!”
I am married with three kids. Selective hearing is mandatory!
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