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US Special Ops commander: We’ve sent troops into North Korea
The Daily Caller ^

Posted on 05/28/2012 10:26:07 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

US Special Ops commander: We’ve sent troops into North Korea By David Martosko - The Daily Caller 12:14 PM 05/28/2012 ADVERTISEMENT

U.S. Army Gen. Neil Tolley, commander of U.S. Special Operations Forces in South Korea, told an audience in Tampa that U.S. and South Korean forces have been sent into North Korea to spy on the communist country’s vast collection of underground tunnels and military installations.

The extraordinary admission, which went unreported by U.S. media, came on May 22 during the Special Operations Forces Industry Conference. Tolley said his command has identified 20 airfields and 180 munitions factories that are partially underground, along with thousands of subterranean artillery positions.

“The entire tunnel infrastructure is hidden from our satellites,” Tolley added, according a report published Monday by The Diplomat, a Japan-based foreign affairs magazine.

“So we send ROK [Republic of Korea] soldiers and U.S. soldiers to the North to do special reconnaissance.”

North Korea, he said, has dug tunnels underneath the Demilitarized Zone separating it from the South. “There were four tunnels under the DMZ,” Tolley observed, according to a Tampa Tribune blogger. “Those are the ones we know about.”

Tolley’s commandos, he said, parachute into North Korea to watch the tunnels and gather intelligence, carrying the bare minimum of supplies to avoid detection.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: northkorea
Shhhh, don't tell anyone.......
1 posted on 05/28/2012 10:26:11 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Yep. Trying to stir up NK, I’d say.


2 posted on 05/28/2012 10:30:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

If this is true I hope it’s only disinformation designed to get the North Koreans to waste resources chasing down non-existent Special Operations Forces.

On the other hand if it’s true these people need to shut the hell up.The public doesn’t need to know about it.


3 posted on 05/28/2012 10:34:51 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

North Korea does the same. Its nothing new but I’d say the timing of going public is designed to generate a response.


4 posted on 05/28/2012 10:40:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: puppypusher
Yeah ... I have a hard time believing THIS guy just happened to have an audience (what the hell is THAT) in Tampa, Fl (vacation? R&R?) and decided to , .. "Oh, by the way, guess what WE'RE doing ... "
5 posted on 05/28/2012 10:42:22 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.


6 posted on 05/28/2012 10:43:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Sub-Driver
General Hummel was involved in sending troops into China.


7 posted on 05/28/2012 11:05:48 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Sub-Driver

This intel could be several years old by now. But if it makes the NorKs start chasing their own tail then that is great.


8 posted on 05/28/2012 11:16:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Sub-Driver
My first thought was that if true, none of us need to know. However, there are many interesting possibilities.

Some of them concern me considering the election is coming up very soon. A true threat is one thing, but sabre-rattling by an incumbent that may be fearful of the outcome is another.

9 posted on 05/28/2012 11:27:53 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’ve been at various conferences open to the public where covert intelligence-gathering operations in other countries have been discussed in non-specific terms. I don’t think it is any secret that we are using eyes on the ground along with all of our other resources to gather information on a continuous basis.


10 posted on 05/28/2012 11:28:34 AM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: Kirkwood

My cuz serves at Red Cloud in Sokor. He’s frontline there but he kinda hinted it has been true for the past few years.


11 posted on 05/28/2012 11:52:59 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Kirkwood
we are using eyes on the ground along with all of our other resources to gather information on a continuous basis.

Under this regime, more so within the U.S. by our own insurgent government than on foreign soil.

12 posted on 05/28/2012 11:55:53 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Sub-Driver
“So we send ROK [Republic of Korea] soldiers and U.S. soldiers to the North to do special reconnaissance.”

I sure as hell hope the NK security forces have orders against profiling, for the sake of the U.S. soldiers............./................it's not like they can blend in among 15 million Yanks

13 posted on 05/28/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Shhhh, don't tell anyone......."

It sounds like they rediscovered "Swiss Cheese Mountain".

14 posted on 05/28/2012 12:21:03 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: puppypusher

It’s more public knowledge than you’d think. I’ve been hearing it for a while.


15 posted on 05/28/2012 1:04:53 PM PDT by bgill
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To: puppypusher
If this is true I hope it’s only disinformation designed to get the North Koreans to waste resources chasing down non-existent Special Operations Forces.

Or we will see more "car accidents" by the pot belly dictator No. II. Psych Ops to make him more paranoid and then crack?

16 posted on 05/28/2012 1:44:16 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Ax; Azeem; ...

MI/SOCOM Ping


17 posted on 05/28/2012 2:40:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

I saw this earlier, judging by personal photos I saw at a French MI officer’s apartment once, NATO used to do LRRP missions into the Eastern block.

Maybe they are more common than most of us know.


19 posted on 05/28/2012 3:22:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If true, definitely duty reserved for those with masses of hair on their chests and an abundance of male hormones.

One doesn’t even like to THINK about what might be the fate of anyone captured.


20 posted on 05/28/2012 3:31:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Brilliant; Lazamataz; Travis McGee

If youve ever seen oilfield seismic ops, you know how we get 3d color pictures of the NK tunnel infrastructure. The irony is that we use the NKs own nuke tests as our “thumper trucks” to obtain the seismic data that reveals their secret tunnels.

Everytime we think there is a new tunnel, we create an incident and then “beg” them not to dare set off another nuke blast...which off course they do.

It is simple reverse psychology.


21 posted on 05/28/2012 3:32:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sub-Driver

General Tolley’s remarks were on the money:

““We have only two countries and one time zone [to watch],” he explained, “but what we lack in size we make up for in kilotons of evil.”


22 posted on 05/28/2012 4:56:45 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: Sub-Driver
:)

You can only do “so much” from space or even the air for that matter. Human intelligence, strategic intelligence by sending in Spec-Ops etc is required in addition to the image and signal component which we tend to get wrapped up around because of our aversion to risk and technology fetish. We are only fooling ourselves when we think we can get a good picture of what is going on by simply sucking in all the electrons floating through the air.

23 posted on 05/28/2012 5:15:34 PM PDT by Red6
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To: ansel12

No comment.


24 posted on 05/28/2012 6:03:13 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

During the 1980s I heard enough hints and unconvincing denials that I was sure that we made cross border crossings.


25 posted on 05/28/2012 6:34:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Southack
My question is about the timing of this disinformation “leak.”
26 posted on 05/28/2012 7:49:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ASA Vet

Guys,

rather than repeat my debunking of this on another thread, I’ll ask you to read my posts 57, 58 and 60 over there. In a word, this is a crock which one reporter created. Incompetence? Dishonesty? Pick one, he’s a reporter.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888868/posts


27 posted on 05/28/2012 9:23:33 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Humor me, I'm one of those scary combat vets)
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To: Travis McGee

Once you see that Obama’s resume lists “editor at BIC”, everything falls into place.

Business International Corp is a front for...


28 posted on 05/28/2012 10:24:18 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ASA Vet

Jaysus Kriste, whatever happened to people who could spell O-P-S-E-C?


29 posted on 05/29/2012 4:57:56 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Good comments. I was thinking that I had been transported into Bizarro World, where I was on the wrong side of the former east/west border.


30 posted on 05/29/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: Southack; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; LonePalm

“Once you see that Obama’s resume lists “editor at BIC”, everything falls into place.

Business International Corp is a front for...”

http://www.exportblueprint.com/blog/1552/verified-cia-front-business-international-corp-paid-for-obamas-columbia-college-tuition/

Verified CIA Front, Business International Corp, Paid for Obama’s Columbia College Tuition

by admin on February 25, 2010

After graduating from Columbia University in 1983, Barack Obama went to work for a firm called Business International Corporation (BIC), a firm that was linked to economic intelligence gathering for the CIA. For one year, Obama worked as a researcher in BIC’s financial services division where he wrote for two BIC publications, Financing Foreign Operations and Business International Money Report, a weekly newsletter. An informed source has told WMR that Obama’s tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC.

In addition, WMR has learned that when Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the 20-year-old Obama, who was known as “Barry Soetoro,” traveled to Pakistan in 1981 and was hosted by the family of Muhammadmian Soomro, a Pakistani Sindhi who became acting President of Pakistan after the resignation of General Pervez Musharraf on August 18, 2008. WMR was told that the Obama/Soetoro trip to Pakistan, ostensibly to go “partridge hunting” with the Soomros, related to unknown CIA business.

The covert CIA program to assist the Afghan mujaheddin was already well underway at the time and Pakistan was the major base of operations for the CIA’s support. Obama also reportedly traveled to India, again, on unknown business for U.S. intelligence. WMR has been told by knowledgeable sources that Obama has, in the past, traveled on at least three passports: U.S., Indonesian, and British. BIC also maintained a European subsidiary, Business International S.A., in Geneva.

BIC had long been associated with CIA activities since being founded by Eldridge Haynes, a self-professed liberal Democrat. The BIC headquarters was located at the prestigious address of 1 Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in Manhattan.

BIC held a series of off-the-record, no press, meetings between top U.S. business executives and top government officials, including the President, and the Secretaries of State, Defense, Treasury, Commerce, and Labor; the Attorney General, Senate leadership, and the heads of the Export-Import Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank. BIC held international meetings in locations like Brussels and Mexico City.

In 1986, BIC was bought by the Economist Group in London and its operations were merged with the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU). There have been a number of reports that the EIU works as closely with Britain’s MI-6 intelligence service as BIC once worked with or for the CIA.

One of BIC’s directors was the late Lord Pilkington, who was also a director of the Bank of England. Obama’s work for a company having ties to the CIA barely registered a blip on the 2008 presidential campaign radar screen. At the very least, Obama helped in providing economic intelligence to the CIA as a contract employee. At most, Obama was, like previous BIC employees who operated abroad for the CIA, a full-fledged non-official cover (NOC) agent.

Since President Obama has backpedaled on CIA renditions and torture, as well as warrantless electronic surveillance by U.S. intelligence, he owes the American people a full explanation of the circumstances behind his being hired by BIC, what his job actually entailed, and whether he continued to have a relationship with BIC or any other CIA operation while attending Harvard Law School and thereafter.


So is Obama our Manchurian Candidate, reared, educated and trained to destroy the Democratics from the top to the bottom?


31 posted on 05/30/2012 12:25:18 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Obama is just CIA. It is in the public domain. It is on his official White House resume.

Same goes for GHW Bush back in 1988. He was the former CIA director.


32 posted on 05/30/2012 3:06:53 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Grampa Dave

Obama is just CIA. It is in the public domain. It is on his official White House resume.

Same goes for GHW Bush back in 1988. He was the former CIA director.


33 posted on 05/30/2012 3:07:18 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sarajevo

Update: The General (BG Neil Tolley) has said that he was speaking hypothetically, but in the indicative, so (to my amazement) Axe actually quoted him accurately. But NO SF went into Nork.

I’ll be posting this same thing to the others that replied to my posts. Still too busy to hang out here much, alas.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


34 posted on 06/02/2012 12:38:18 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Humor me, I'm one of those scary combat vets)
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