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Climate change deniers not stupid, just trying to fit in, says study ( BARF ALERT!)
Death and Taxes Magazine ^ | May 28th 2012 | DJ Pangburn

Posted on 05/28/2012 10:27:29 AM PDT by AmonAmarth

A recent Yale University study funded by the National Science Foundation found that those with opposing views on climate change don’t hold those views because of insufficient scientific understanding, but because of “opposing sets of cultural values.”

To be specific, people have a rather solid foundation in science and mathematics, but they use scientific evidence to fit their cultural group’s values. In other words, global warming deniers aren’t stupid, they just want to fit in.

“In effect, ordinary members of the public credit or dismiss scientific information on disputed issues based on whether the information strengthens or weakens their ties to others who share their values,” said Dan Kahan, Elizabeth K. Dollard Professor of Law and Professor of Psychology at Yale Law School. ”At least among ordinary members of the public, individuals with higher science comprehension are even better at fitting the evidence to their group commitments.”

“More information can help solve the climate change conflict,” Kahan said, “but that information has to do more than communicate the scientific evidence. It also has to create a climate of deliberations in which no group perceives that accepting any piece of evidence is akin to betrayal of their cultural group.”

So, the next time you find yourself in the company of a global warming denier or skeptic, just remember they’re under a lot of pressure, okay?

The Yale study was published yesterday in the journal Nature.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; dankahan; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; skeptics; yale
I could not find a copy of this study anywhere. Who they trying to fool?
1 posted on 05/28/2012 10:27:40 AM PDT by AmonAmarth
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To: AmonAmarth

Psychological projection.


2 posted on 05/28/2012 10:29:16 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: AmonAmarth

This was written by no ordinary fool - it take a Yale Professor of Law and Psychology to write something this stupid.


3 posted on 05/28/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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To: AmonAmarth

Any other result would have destroyed their career.

Pray for our Troops


4 posted on 05/28/2012 10:40:19 AM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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Thanks AmonAmarth.


5 posted on 05/28/2012 10:42:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Psychological projection.

Exactly!
6 posted on 05/28/2012 10:43:53 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: AmonAmarth
Deniers aren't evil, just lost souls who we need to convert to our earth goddess, Gaia. This is environMENTAL religious talk in the name of the lessor god, Science.
7 posted on 05/28/2012 10:50:45 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Psychological projection.

Yup. 100%...

8 posted on 05/28/2012 10:52:11 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: AmonAmarth
A recent Red Dog University study found that those with views believing in climate change don’t hold those views because of insufficient scientific understanding, but because of “opposing sets of cultural values.”

The cultural values in question largely result from being educated stupid and self absorbution.

9 posted on 05/28/2012 10:59:47 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: AmonAmarth

Yup, the climate changes all the time. Like it did when the Vikings had to get the heck out of Greenland. Note the name Greenland.

I want them to answer this. The next ice age will come, what do they intend to do to stop it? All the hot air coming out of Al Gores ass wouldnt stop it.


10 posted on 05/28/2012 11:03:27 AM PDT by crz
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To: AmonAmarth

Pointy headed Ivy League types telling us how to think.

O’Really probably loves it.


11 posted on 05/28/2012 11:05:20 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Seriously. Arrogant psychological projection.


12 posted on 05/28/2012 11:08:20 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: AmonAmarth

The enviro-whacko’s premise their entire argument on the premise “the climate’s changing so it must be our fault”. But if you listen closely, they aren’t really blaming humans as much as they’re blaming capitalism-that’s their real agenda.


13 posted on 05/28/2012 11:15:37 AM PDT by Spok
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Psychological projection.


Absolutely.


14 posted on 05/28/2012 11:45:52 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: AmonAmarth

A recent Yale University study funded by the National Science Foundation found that those with opposing confirming views on climate change don’t hold those views because of insufficient scientific understanding, but because of “opposing sets of cultural values.”

To be specific, people have a rather solid foundation in science and mathematics, but they use scientific evidence to fit their cultural group’s values. In other words, global warming deniers believers aren’t stupid, they just want to fit in.

“In effect, ordinary members of the public credit or dismiss scientific information on disputed issues based on whether the information strengthens or weakens their ties to others who share their values,” said Dan Kahan, Elizabeth K. Dollard Professor of Law and Professor of Psychology at Yale Law School. ”At least among ordinary members of the public, individuals with higher science comprehension are even better at fitting the evidence to their group commitments.”

“More information can help solve the climate change conflict,” Kahan said, “but that information has to do more than communicate the scientific evidence. It also has to create a climate of deliberations in which no group perceives that accepting any piece of evidence is akin to betrayal of their cultural group.”

So, the next time you find yourself in the company of a global warming denier believer or skeptic apologist, just remember they’re under a lot of pressure, okay?

The Yale study was published yesterday in the journal Nature.

It only takes four edits to change the article completely.

15 posted on 05/28/2012 11:52:38 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: AmonAmarth
Climate change deniers not stupid, just trying to fit in

I bet Madoff's victims felt the same way.

16 posted on 05/28/2012 11:53:40 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: AmonAmarth
opposing sets of cultural values.”

Some cultures rely on superstition and others rely on verifiable evidence.

17 posted on 05/28/2012 12:19:25 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: AmonAmarth
I just wanna fit in !!!!!!!!
I saw climate change! I believe! I believe!
Saturday it was sunny! and today (Monday) it ‘s overcast!

I see! I see! said the blind man!

Saturday I drove my car and, I think I even farted!
Today it is overcast! My shame! Oh, the shame!
Can I ever be forgiven?!

If,sniff... only I had gone to Yale.......If, sniffy sniff, only I were wise...like a Yale professor!

Academia should rule the world!!!.......Utopia!....Utopia!....
come down great god of the land of brain washed Utopia and save us!!!!!

You are our overlords!

18 posted on 05/28/2012 12:22:48 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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“It only takes four edits to change the article completely.”

Not really. It’s true for many controversial issues; the Yale researchers were just unable to step outside their cultural values to see the big picture. The cultural values embraced by the opposing sides are more important than the data. In the global warming debate, believers embrace “right feeling” and deniers embrace scientific rigor.


19 posted on 05/28/2012 12:38:48 PM PDT by spaced
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To be specific, people have a rather solid foundation in science and mathematics, but they use scientific evidence to fit their cultural group’s values.

The money line. Dollars to donuts they set out trying to show skeptics were uninformed or poorly educated. Their data must have shown that skeptics are skeptical for a reason - they are well informed and know how weak the evidence for AGW is.

The lawyer has to spin his way out of it to keep the grant money coming. Nice try, chump!

20 posted on 05/28/2012 1:21:27 PM PDT by BigBobber
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Should be rewritten as: Climate Change Promoters Not Greedy - Just Trying To Cash In


21 posted on 05/28/2012 3:26:17 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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22 posted on 05/28/2012 9:04:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: AmonAmarth

I have had a lifelong interest in science and have seen many theories come, go or change.

I remember when plate tectonics was hooted out of the classroom and the idea that an asteroid hit the Earth and doomed dinosaurs was similarly derided.

Weighing all the evidence I have seen, the “skeptics” arguments are far more compelling.

The Warming Alarmists have laid all their eggs in a carbon dioxide basket, and it seems that to blame a gas that makes up 0.039445% of our atmosphere is quite a stretch.


23 posted on 05/28/2012 9:19:52 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: AmonAmarth
To be specific, people have a rather solid foundation in science and mathematics, but they use scientific evidence to fit their cultural group’s values. In other words, global warming deniers aren’t stupid, they just want to fit in.

Fit in? FIT IN???? You have to have nerves of steel, extremely large titanium testicles, and no desire to ever receive another research grant to be a "denier". (note the derogatory term reserved for those on only one side of the issue, and the more open-minded side at that)

Oxygen theives!

24 posted on 05/28/2012 9:29:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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”At least among ordinary members of the public, individuals with higher science comprehension are even better at fitting the evidence to their group commitments.”

So the scrambling begins to negate all the counter-AGW evidence that's been emerging (and that they probably know even better than we that WILL be emerging). They need a strategy in place to try to keep the whole thing from coming down around their heads.

25 posted on 05/28/2012 9:32:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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