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Michelle Obama sponsors Navy’s first submarine with all-female crew
the hill ^ | may 28, 2012 | carlo munoz

Posted on 05/28/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by beebuster2000

The USS Illinois, the first Navy submarine to be staffed by an all-female crew, received the support of the White House on Memorial Day.

On Monday, First Lady Michelle Obama officially sponsored the Virginia-class submarine, which will be one of the newest nuclear-powered boats scheduled to enter the fleet by 2015, according to a White House statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: michelle; michelleobama; navy; submarine
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At first i thought it was a joke, but it is not. why? God only knows.
1 posted on 05/28/2012 4:32:55 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

Here we go again.


2 posted on 05/28/2012 4:37:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: beebuster2000

Actually, wouldn’t that solve the fraternization issues? Women are intellectually capable of handling a nuclear sub. (Well, not me, math was never my strong point! But SOME women can handle it. ;o)

I think this may be an experiment worth trying.


3 posted on 05/28/2012 4:38:27 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: mylife

If a female crew member spills their coffee does it still leave a seaman stain?


4 posted on 05/28/2012 4:39:28 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: beebuster2000

New twist on going down....

New subs don’t have to raise the periscope either...


5 posted on 05/28/2012 4:39:51 PM PDT by y6162
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To: beebuster2000

How can 24 women run a fast attack sub?
Also none of them hold rank over LT.


6 posted on 05/28/2012 4:40:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: beebuster2000

“Coming up on tonight’s 10 O’clock News, military leaders in Moscow are on high alert due to intelligence reports indicating it’s ‘that time of the month’ aboard the American Navy submarine Illinois. ...”


7 posted on 05/28/2012 4:40:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: beebuster2000

The USS Estrogen


8 posted on 05/28/2012 4:41:00 PM PDT by Lexington Green (''Those who bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boots that kick them.'' -- Eric Hoffer)
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To: beebuster2000

Obviously, an all-female submarine crew is a deliberate political act, the purpose of which is absolutely superfluous serving no military purpose except as a function of nefarious political correctness.


9 posted on 05/28/2012 4:41:10 PM PDT by lbryce (OMG. What have we done to deserve the likes of the miscreant Zero?)
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To: y6162

vagina class sub.....


10 posted on 05/28/2012 4:41:39 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: beebuster2000

Women’s menstrual cycles tend to synchronize in much less enclosed environments than a submarine. I wonder if PMS will be a problem.


11 posted on 05/28/2012 4:42:12 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: beebuster2000

From the reader comments:

“Am I the only one who sees the irony of the first black,
First Lady launching the first segregated military unit in this century?”


12 posted on 05/28/2012 4:42:36 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

an all woman submarine is a better idea than a coed submarine. the under water pressure and close quarters turn coed navy subs instantly into love boats. ... to the considerable consternation and unhappiness of spouses onshore.


13 posted on 05/28/2012 4:42:42 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: y6162

Oh yea right, rig for Silent Running? I don’t think you can keep that crew quiet.


14 posted on 05/28/2012 4:42:56 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: beebuster2000

15 posted on 05/28/2012 4:42:56 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Submarine decks don’t stain.


16 posted on 05/28/2012 4:43:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lx

Operation Petticoat...Perfect


17 posted on 05/28/2012 4:43:57 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: pointsal

USS PMS


18 posted on 05/28/2012 4:44:40 PM PDT by y6162
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To: mylife

That’s what she said...


19 posted on 05/28/2012 4:44:47 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: beebuster2000

“Michelle Obama officially sponsored”

I didn’t know yetis could sponsor a ship.


20 posted on 05/28/2012 4:44:47 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: beebuster2000

While the issue of can they or can they not safely and
effectively crew and operate a submarine is a reasonable
issue to discuss their is one more issue that is far more
critical. Can they be trusted to launch if such an order
was given or if other circumstances required that they do
so. The psychological differences between women would make
such one wonder if women have what it takes to perform an
action that they know could kill millions.


21 posted on 05/28/2012 4:45:27 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: beebuster2000

Naval version of Rush’s “All Amazon Battalion”.


22 posted on 05/28/2012 4:45:43 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ckilmer

Fights would abound.
“I hope you brought enough for everyone”
Them’s the simple facts.


23 posted on 05/28/2012 4:46:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lexington Green

USS PMS or
USS PMSNBC (NBC=Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical).


24 posted on 05/28/2012 4:47:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: beebuster2000
Yep. We're screwed. (and I dont mean that in a good way.)

!! CRIMSON TIDE !!

25 posted on 05/28/2012 4:48:44 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: beebuster2000

Martha Stewart has had some excellent experience doing interior decorating in very small spaces. Think they’ll hire her to do the decorating on their sub?


26 posted on 05/28/2012 4:48:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: beebuster2000
Men and women serving together on combat surface ships has decreased their (all the usual PC issues of frivolous but taken seriously accusations of racism sexism oh and homophobia now too I suppose, so the “victims” can do what they want) effectiveness but not so bad that the vessels are total basket cases.

Different on a sub—if you ain't got efficiency and harmony on the boats you got dead sailors.
So all male or all female crews make sense and I wish the ladies well.

27 posted on 05/28/2012 4:49:58 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("If an Evil be politically correct--none dare call it Evil.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They’ll have a vagitarian menu....


28 posted on 05/28/2012 4:50:02 PM PDT by refermech
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To: wideminded

Ha....PMS Illinois


29 posted on 05/28/2012 4:51:54 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: beebuster2000

This just figures they name a submarine after a state that is under water.


30 posted on 05/28/2012 4:52:38 PM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No one yet mentioned the Gay thing. That sort of makes the sub target rich for the L-gals. I guess they did not see A Few Good Men.

And since when did the Wookie become CIC of Navy?


31 posted on 05/28/2012 4:52:38 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: nvscanman

> wonder if women have what it takes to perform an
action that they know could kill millions

VA Class is a nuclear-POWERED ATTACK sub. not a boomer.


32 posted on 05/28/2012 4:53:05 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: beebuster2000

OMG what is next with these liberals...The Gay Sub christened by ODumbo. sheesh


33 posted on 05/28/2012 4:54:31 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: beebuster2000
U*Boats

*(Uterus)

34 posted on 05/28/2012 4:55:19 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("If an Evil be politically correct--none dare call it Evil.")
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To: beebuster2000; John Semmens

This will put John Semmens out of business.


35 posted on 05/28/2012 4:55:19 PM PDT by Former War Criminal (Who am I? Why am I here?)
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To: Lx

The USS Tampon?

No, seriously, could an all female crew give a sinking battle-damaged sub the same chance of survival as an all male crew? Are they physically strong enough?


36 posted on 05/28/2012 4:57:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: beebuster2000
Just wait till they have to Parallel park.
37 posted on 05/28/2012 4:57:59 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: Happy Rain

Bingo.
There’s enough tension on board already without a direct injection of estrogen/testosterone into the operating environment.
Another thing that will suck is that when you have 5 heads and 2 showers for 100 men and you take one away for 24 women, there will be resentment.
They propose to fix this by making all the women officers who will share the officers quarters.

No problems there /s

Good luck getting a red blooded NCO to take a male ensign or LTJG seriously on a boat.
This coed boats would be pure trouble.

They’re gonna love meeting the COB.


38 posted on 05/28/2012 5:00:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ckilmer
"...an all woman submarine is a better idea than a coed submarine"

The crew will be all beings, but you can bet there will be plenty who are of different sexual persuasion and the same problems that may have been a concern regarding fraternization and harassment will not likely go away.

39 posted on 05/28/2012 5:00:11 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: beebuster2000

This is incredibly stupid, sexist, and ridiculous to do this crap to the military. There is no equal anything in the military, it’s the damn military.

Utterly stupid. It will appear like Obama has his equivalent of Kadafi’s female guards.


40 posted on 05/28/2012 5:02:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: lbryce

Here’s what I don’t get. Hopefully someone can explain.

We’re supposed to see this as a step forward for “civil rights” for women. Okay, perhaps it is a step since up till now, women have not been on submarines.

But, how is this a step forward in an area of “civil rights” if females are going to be segregated?

When the armed forces became fully integrated, blacks and whites were serving together in the same units. Ditto, with the end of “Don’t Ask / Don’t Tell”, openly gay service members are in the same units. They are not being segregated into a homosexual unit.

My question, and a serious question it is, is why is it okay to have gender segregation such as this all girl submarine?????


41 posted on 05/28/2012 5:02:27 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: beebuster2000

What, in your opinion, would disqualify an all female crew from “manning” a submarine?

Please be serious in your response.


42 posted on 05/28/2012 5:02:50 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Lexington Green

The USS PMS. Don’t mess with it. Really.


43 posted on 05/28/2012 5:03:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: beebuster2000

This is total BS....there is NO possible way the Navy can fully man (no pun intended) a submarine with a 100% female crew. You would have to have fully qualified women from all ratings from E-1 all the way up to Commander. It would take a decade or more of a fully integrated submarine service training pipeline to produce such women. They don’t exist now, and will not by the specified 2015 date.

And, this will ultimately end in disaster. EVERY US Navy seagoing platform that has allowed women to serve has had a 30%-50% pregnancy rate—pregnancies occurring both on and off ship. Pregnant women can NOT serve on submarine, or any other combatant vessel for that matter. The instant a medical determination of pregnancy exists, that woman has to be transferred to a shore billet. What you will have is a boat that is insufficiently manned to deploy. Ain’t gonna happen.

And, BTW, have served on a submarine, I will state as fact that MOST women simply don’t have the physical stamina to do the job.


44 posted on 05/28/2012 5:03:58 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: beebuster2000

In all submarines you have people who have been to sea for 10 years. There is not the experience amoung women. A submarine is not like driving a car around.


45 posted on 05/28/2012 5:04:19 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Happy Rain
Different on a sub—if you ain't got efficiency and harmony on the boats you got dead sailors.

So all male or all female crews make sense and I wish the ladies well.

Are there currently any co-ed subs to provide officers and crew already trained on a Virginia-class boat? If not, is the Navy really going to trust a new sub to a rookie crew?

46 posted on 05/28/2012 5:04:56 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ckilmer

And are you forgetting the higher than normal percentage of lesbians in the armed forces? You don’t think that won’t be going on on this sub?


47 posted on 05/28/2012 5:05:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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I can’t imagine some greenhorn female officer barking orders at a 20 year sub sailor.


48 posted on 05/28/2012 5:05:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

What part of “all female crew” did you not understand?


49 posted on 05/28/2012 5:06:56 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: wideminded

First thing I thought too.


50 posted on 05/28/2012 5:08:33 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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