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Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific to US
Associated Press via San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | Monday, May 28, 2012 | ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer

Posted on 05/28/2012 7:01:21 PM PDT by thecodont

(05-28) 12:48 PDT LOS ANGELES, (AP) --

Across the vast Pacific, the mighty bluefin tuna carried radioactive contamination that leaked from Japan's crippled nuclear plant to the shores of the United States 6,000 miles away — the first time a huge migrating fish has been shown to carry radioactivity such a distance.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/05/28/national/a120114D60.DTL#ixzz1wDhpH1BO

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fisheries; fukushima; fukushimatuna; nuclearradiation; radioactivetuna; tuna
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To: thecodont; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

My uncle, who flies a commercial aircraft from L.A. to Tokyo (and back, of course) reported seeing glowing schools of fish (schools? the fish attend schools?) at night in the Pacific ocean.


21 posted on 05/28/2012 8:22:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Royal Wulff

Tuna is a big fish and (I understand) the top of the ocean food chain. It’s been eating everything smaller than itself so it’s consumed all the radiation absorbed by everything smaller than itself, plankton and krill on up the ladder.

You could go to an open-air fish market and sneak in a Geiger counter. What will you find?


22 posted on 05/28/2012 8:37:43 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Joe Biden has ordered all future boats and ships to be made out of lead.


23 posted on 05/28/2012 8:42:17 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: thecodont

LOL there are no 1000lb tunas here on the west coast of the USA!


24 posted on 05/28/2012 9:04:27 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: thecodont

More nuclear hysteria. Give me break!


25 posted on 05/28/2012 9:12:18 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Revolting cat!

Just Wow.


26 posted on 05/28/2012 9:51:29 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: thecodont

Radiation Schmadiation. Anything that doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.


27 posted on 05/28/2012 10:58:52 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Uncle Miltie
Just ahead of their time...


28 posted on 05/28/2012 11:26:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: from occupied ga

Your reply is incomplete and incorrect. Although Cs137 does decay thru beta, it emits gamma rays. A standard gamma detector will detect Cs 137.

From wikipededia:

Caesium-137 has a small number of practical uses. In small amounts, it is used to calibrate radiation-detection equipment. It is used as a gamma emitter for oilfield wireline density measurements. It is also sometimes used in cancer treatment, and it is also used industrially in gauges for measuring liquid flows and the thickness of materials.

Again, a standard gamma detector will detect Cs 137.

This article does not specify the amounts of contamination, and is therefore good for little besides fear mongering.


29 posted on 05/29/2012 12:27:29 AM PDT by quimby
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To: thecodont
Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific to US

As long as the hamachi is safe, I don't care.

30 posted on 05/29/2012 1:13:07 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: quimby
Your reply is incomplete and incorrect.

Nope - Incomplete, maybe, but not incorrect. Your response is incorrect and misleading.

31 posted on 05/29/2012 3:56:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: quimby
This article does not specify the amounts of contamination, and is therefore good for little besides fear mongering.

Further reports say that the amount of cesium is about 1/30 of the level of radioactivity of all the rest of the naturally-occurring radioactive elements in the tuna and is far below any levels considered dangerous to health.
32 posted on 05/29/2012 3:59:36 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: darth

I’m usually really big on wild salmon when it is in season, but I’ll have to say, this has given me pause this year.


33 posted on 05/29/2012 4:05:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: from occupied ga
the real test would be to measure the radioctivity of the tuna itself. cs137 decays via beta. Your meter wouldn't be able measure beta through a can anyway.

Since cs137 emits gammas, your assertion is wrong. A standard gamma detector would detect gammas thru a can. batas no. gammas yes.

34 posted on 05/29/2012 4:21:28 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby

Since you’re being picky, CS137 does not emmit gamma rays when it decays, but the decay product BA137 does, and yes you would be able to detect gammas through the can, but there would be some attenuation, although not more than a couple of percent max given the thickness of your average can. So the maximum accuracy would be to measure the tuna out of the can. Further a reading of .05rad is much higher than you’d expect even if the tuna were contaminated. I suspect that the previous poster’s meter is in need of calibration.


35 posted on 05/29/2012 4:48:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Fair enough. A standard meter should be able to detect Cs137 contamination in a tuna can.

Since the contamination in this case is so small, the ability to detect the additional emission would be doubtful. But a dangerous level would be likely be detected


36 posted on 05/29/2012 4:59:10 AM PDT by quimby
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To: from occupied ga

I had my meter repaired and calibrated by www.KI4U.com last September.

BTW, that is one great website. You can download Kearney’s book, Nuclear War Survival Skills for free. It covers a lot more than nuke war.


37 posted on 05/29/2012 5:17:22 AM PDT by darth
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To: darth

When I worked at a nuclear plant, Chemistry and health physics calibrated their survey meters with a standard source every day. I didn’t work in the C&HP department, so I don’t know if they calibrated them to multiple levels or not. I do remember some guy getting his face scrubbed with duct tape when they found had an emmitting source somewhere on his face. If you could get a standard source - low level - and calibrate your meter yourself, it would probably give you a lot more accurate reading.


38 posted on 05/29/2012 7:03:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Revolting cat!

No, even if there were radioactive glowing fish (there aren’t) it would be kinda difficult to see them from 35,000 feet.


39 posted on 05/29/2012 7:15:27 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: from occupied ga

Thanks for the tip.


40 posted on 05/29/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by darth
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