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New virus hints at state sponsored programmers
Jerusalem Post ^ | 28/05/2012 | YAAKOV LAPPIN

Posted on 05/28/2012 11:04:10 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

The complexity of the latest 'Flame' virus bears the hallmarks of a program engineered by a state, a number of Israeli computer experts believe.

As details of Flame - the third major virus discovered to have an affinity to Iranian computer systems in recent years - filtered through the media, network security experts in Israel, requesting anonymity, studied the initial reports, and indicated that they believed small groups of hackers could not be behind the virus.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flame; flamevirus; iran; israel; malware; menace; tech; virus; wot

1 posted on 05/28/2012 11:04:20 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

The problem with these computer viruses, is that they go in all directions, and cannot be contained.


2 posted on 05/28/2012 11:13:47 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

3 posted on 05/28/2012 11:35:59 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Looks like it’s working correctly.


4 posted on 05/28/2012 11:36:43 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: BlackVeil

Sort of like Islam.


5 posted on 05/28/2012 11:46:43 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

It’s going to be only a matter of time before one of these Islamoterrorist state sponsored hacking houses is infiltrated and busted.


6 posted on 05/29/2012 12:08:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Errrr.......Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

Nevermind............


7 posted on 05/29/2012 12:13:11 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: All
YNET NEWS.com: "'Flame virus aims to gather intelligence'" by Yoav Zitun (SNIPPET: "Flame can gather data files, remotely change settings on computers, turn on PC microphones to record conversations, take screen shots and log instant messaging chats. Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab, one of the world's largest data protection companies, was the first to discover the new malware.") (Latest update: May 29, 2012, 10:11/Israel News) (Read More…)

8 posted on 05/29/2012 12:31:54 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

What’s so special about Jordan and Iraq on that map? Maybe Turkey too, but those too look kind of weird all surrounded like that


9 posted on 05/29/2012 12:52:56 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Bookmark


10 posted on 05/29/2012 1:14:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: BlackVeil
The problem with these computer viruses, is that they go in all directions, and cannot be contained.

Actually, it's not hard for the writers to contain viruses like this in the targeted area. Think about it.

11 posted on 05/29/2012 3:27:46 AM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; ...

12 posted on 05/29/2012 3:31:48 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; ...

13 posted on 05/29/2012 3:32:38 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: BlackVeil

So you’re saying that a virus designed to target specific systems cannot be contained outside of those systems?


14 posted on 05/29/2012 4:15:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Moose Burger

How widely are computers used in any of these countries?


15 posted on 05/29/2012 4:36:56 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Pollster1; BlackVeil; Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
Actually, it's not hard for the writers to contain viruses like this in the targeted area. Think about it.

If this is like the STUX NET virus the theory is that the virus was (initially) spread by a Siemens Technician servicing Programmable Logic Controllers with the virus loaded on a thumb drive.

This would isolate the virus to one or a few techs who service computers in that part of the world until the virus breaks out of these (generally) stand alone computers.

The other thing to note is that these viruses are written to attack industrial control systems of a particular type (Siemens) so the damage they will do is limited by their design.

The Stux Net virus was specifically written to cause the Uranium Enrichment centrifuges to over speed and destroy themselves.

16 posted on 05/29/2012 5:06:09 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: scrabblehack
According to Middle East Internet Users, Population and Facebook Statistics usage is higher than in Lebanon, right north of Israel and clearly painted red.
17 posted on 05/29/2012 6:39:49 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Cindy

In the old days we’d have a problem with a Moscow-based Lab having control of this kind of stuff. If Kaspersky wasn’t totally ethical they could take this virus - change a few lines of code (or more) - and switch targets... Not that they would do that...


18 posted on 05/29/2012 7:45:46 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Pontiac
The Stux Net virus was specifically written to cause the Uranium Enrichment centrifuges to over speed and destroy themselves.

How hard would it be to tweek that virus so it would go after American Uranium Enrichment centrifuges? The tough part of the code has already written...

19 posted on 05/29/2012 7:50:37 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Yaalon Hints Israel behind Flame Malware
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156294#.T8TfxFE69v0


20 posted on 05/29/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
I guess as an IT professional, I have always wondered at the wisdom of code development being farmed out to third world countries. I know companies do it because it is cheaper, but the cost is too great.

It is time that those writing and maintaining major operating system should have a security clearance. If the big companies are unwilling to secure their code, then we should be unwilling to buy it.

This has worried me for a long time.

21 posted on 05/29/2012 8:17:30 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: GOPJ
How hard would it be to tweek that virus so it would go after American Uranium Enrichment centrifuges?

As I understand the StuxNet Virus with detailed and specific information on the programming of the Iranian enrichment plant down to specific Input/Output addresses of sensors and motor controllers.

If those addresses were used at an American Plant to control critical functions with similar parameters it could cause problems. But it would have to be a Siemens PLC which dominates Europe and the Middle East. Foxborrow and others are dominate in the US.

22 posted on 05/29/2012 8:33:46 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Considering the number of mathematicians, electrical engineers, and computer programmers that live in Israel and who immigrated to Israel from easter Europe and Russia I would think that they are quite capable of performing something this complex. The time line is interesting for how long the code has been setting there just waiting to be activated.


23 posted on 05/29/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Just a shame how Iran seems to be hit by so many computer malfunctions/viruses.
Just a shame.
Maybe time to upgrade from DOS up to Windows?


24 posted on 05/29/2012 8:13:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

>> “Maybe time to upgrade from DOS up to Windows?” <<

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Most viruses are Windows viruses.

There hasn’t been a new DOS virus for 14 years.


25 posted on 05/29/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I forget where it was that I had read it, but after stuxnet had taken it’s toll last year they had found that a large number of the Iranian systems were operating on pirated software that was susceptible to attack. Apparently as a cost cutting strategy they had decided to use pirated software in most of their military and government systems. Probably not the best security plan.


26 posted on 05/29/2012 8:34:25 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: editor-surveyor

“Most viruses are Windows viruses.”

No way. Windows machines never get viruses.


27 posted on 05/29/2012 8:52:42 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Pride_of_the_Bluegrass.
28 posted on 05/29/2012 9:57:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: All

http://forum.internet-haganah.com/showthread.php?831-Giving-new-meaning-to-Flame-War

“Giving new meaning to ‘Flame War’”
(May 29, 2012)


29 posted on 05/30/2012 2:05:32 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: SunkenCiv

I was trying to go back to find the stuxnet thread I posted last year where someone posted forum traffic from the virus monitoring network. That was a great source for updates on the track of the virus. Will post when I find it again SunkenCiv.


30 posted on 05/30/2012 8:47:59 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.kaspersky.com/about/news/virus/2012/Kaspersky_Lab_and_ITU_Research_Reveals_New_Advanced_Cyber_Threat


31 posted on 05/30/2012 9:04:17 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.crysys.hu/skywiper/skywiper.pdf


32 posted on 05/30/2012 9:18:12 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/flamer-highly-sophisticated-and-discreet-threat-targets-middle-east


33 posted on 05/30/2012 9:21:10 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9226469/Iran_confirms_cyberattacks_against_oil_facilities


34 posted on 05/30/2012 9:26:39 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193522/The_Flame_Questions_and_Answers


35 posted on 05/30/2012 9:29:44 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

According to the Iranian CERT team none of their 43 detection tools could find it originally

http://www.certcc.ir/index.php?name=news&file=article&sid=1894


36 posted on 05/30/2012 9:33:01 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Looks like the CERT team in Budapest actually identified it

http://www.crysys.hu/


37 posted on 05/30/2012 9:34:23 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: HereInTheHeartland

No, they get AIDS.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 9:25:32 AM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, is there enough evidence to convict you?)
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