Skip to comments.Traveling This Summer? Leave the Weaponry Behind(Barf Alert)
Posted on 05/29/2012 4:56:18 AM PDT by marktwain
SUMMERS almost here! the Transportation Security Administrations chatty blog is currently informing us. That means more people at the checkpoints, of course.
The blog offers many tips for summer travelers, including, Please get to the airport early to account for the increased passenger load. Then there is my personal favorite: Dont wear clothing with a high metal content. Right: do not show up at the checkpoint in that suit of armor, all of you medieval festival re-enactors. Just pack it neatly, along with any sunscreen or lotions in excess of 3.4 ounces, in your luggage.
But a useful tip that needs to be more prominently highlighted, in my opinion, is this: Please do not try to take a gun onto an airplane. That is because people in growing numbers are showing up at airport security checkpoints with guns in their carry-on bags.
Five years ago, when passenger traffic was slightly higher, the agency discovered about 500 handguns in carry-on bags at checkpoints. Last year, according to the blog, Over 1,200 firearms were discovered at T.S.A. checkpoints across the nation. Many guns are found loaded, with rounds in the chamber. Most passengers simply state they forgot they had a gun in their bag.
So far this year, through last Friday, 513 guns have been found, according to the running count posted each week on the blog, which describes the contraband guns by caliber, by airport where discovered, and by whether or not they were loaded. The vast majority are loaded.
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A firearm has to be unloaded and in a hard sided container that can be locked, and it must be in checked luggage. If the luggage is hard sided and can be locked, that is sufficient. The firearm must be declared at the ticket counter, to inform the airline that you are transporting a firearm. I like the phrase "I wish to declare an unloaded firearm" as it is non-threatening and meets the legal requirements. The ticket agent will give you a form to sign, indicating that you declared the firearm. Knives do not need to be declared, but need to be in checked luggage. Ammunition must be in a factory container, but can be in the same luggage as the firearm.
Airlines may have strickter rules than this, but those that are unreasonable tend to be weeded out by the market.
I have transported firearms by commercial airlines dozens of times since 9/11, and have not had any difficulty doing so.
However, do anything consistantly long enough, and you will make an inadvertent error. With many millions of Americans routinely carrying firearms, I do not find it unusual that a thousand or so would make a mistake in any given year.
Once, I transported a box of 50 rounds of ammunition across the country in my carry on. I had used the carry on as a range bag, and the box of ammo was tucked into a corner and was missed. It came back in checked luggage.
There should be some provision in the law to protect citizens who make an honest mistake, so that they are not persecuted by anti-freedom zealots.
I am not traveling PERIOD. Even when you think you are following the letter of the law the law has the power to change it on the fly. You just cannot respect the laws when they are changing every minute or every mile, every town, every state.
This may be a new profit center for gun stores located in tourist meccas; Renting side arms to traveling CCW holders.
The author tries to say that more and more people are showing up at TSA checkpoints with loaded handguns.
Really? Like we don’t know already?
I will travel fully armed this summer. I’m not taking my family into the lawless wilderness unprepared.
Carnivorous animals and predatory humans are always a danger.
I refuse to be un-armed or dis-armed in the lawless hussein/Holder America. If you think the police or the courts will protect you, you are wrong.
Been camping out in BFE a few times when a couple of two-legged critters decided we might be easy pickings. They were more than a little surprised at how good a shot my little girl is.
I don’t fly anymore because of TSA abuses. Some TSA pervert would probably put his hands on my daughter and I’d end up putting him in the hospital.
To avoid a mess, I’m not flying, I’m driving. That way, no pervert is touching me or my family and I will be armed.
A smile and a shot gun defuse a lot of interesting situations.
I’ve mentioned before that I represented a guy in getting his security clearance reinstated after he forgot his .38 revolver in his carry-on, was arrested, charged with a felony and had the charge dismissed when it couldn’t be proven the act was intentional. Over $13K in attorney’s fees (only a teeny bit of which was mine) for a brain fart.
How stupid do you have to be to show up at a TSA checkpoint with a loaded handgun?
I have to comment on the title of the piece: Leave the Weaponry Behind
Like you dont need the right or means to defend yourself whilst on vacation.
Thats like saying you dont need any of lifes other essentials on holiday Like a first aid kid or cell phone for emergencies.
Does the New York Slimes understand that you dont know ahead of time when you will need to defend yourself?
The lovely and talented Mrs Zippo and I plan to travel this summer. We will take a 2500 mile round trip for a combination of business and pleasure and we will travel in our private car and therefore will be well protected along the way. No need to allow some chinless, drooling pithcanthropus paw through our belongings, nor will Mrs Zippo get groped by anyone but me. Reciprocity is a wonderful thing.
Do loaded magazines (semiauto) or speed-loaders (revolvers) count as the "factory container"?
No, at least as far as I know. Their used to be a specific determination that speedloaders and magazines were considered to be “loaded firearms”. Since then, I believe that determination has been challenged in at least one court case. To be safe, I would use a container made by a factory to contain ammunition. I like to use Ammo Wallets. They are factory made to hold ammunition, and do not allow individual rounds to move about.
I have also used many other factory ammunition containers.
“Traveling this summer?”
Nope. The airlines can do without my money since they refuse to fight the TSA. No sexual assaults on me or my family would ever be tolerated.