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CNN Contributor Erickson and Family Targeted in Latest 'SWATing' Attack
breitbart.com ^ | 5/28/2012 | breitbart.cem

Posted on 05/29/2012 8:25:32 AM PDT by TexasNative2000

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The latest tactic from our tolerant friends on the left.

Call 911, pretend to be someone you're not, give the name and address of your target and say there has been a shooting. The SWAT arrives and the target house is in lockdown mode for a couple of hours. Let the intimidation begin.

1 posted on 05/29/2012 8:25:37 AM PDT by TexasNative2000
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To: TexasNative2000

If you are lucky, all they will shoot is your family dog(s)


2 posted on 05/29/2012 8:27:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: TexasNative2000

Did they shoot his dog, ransack his house, and point guns at their children?


3 posted on 05/29/2012 8:29:02 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: TexasNative2000

Has Drudge linked to any of this story, yet???


4 posted on 05/29/2012 8:29:20 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: TexasNative2000

My stepson works as a 911 calltaker in Florida. I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.


5 posted on 05/29/2012 8:30:06 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: silverleaf

This reminds me so much of the tactics $cientology uses against it’s critics. They call it “fair game”.


6 posted on 05/29/2012 8:31:11 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: thethirddegree

The caller’s number does appear unless the outgoing number has a block set on it.


7 posted on 05/29/2012 8:31:18 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: silverleaf

Scum.

But then, I’ve insulted scum, which actually serves a useful purpose in the environment.


8 posted on 05/29/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: TexasNative2000
You would think the 911 dispatcher would check the caller ID number with that of the residence at which the alleged shooting took place.

After several "SWAT-ings" police may take actual emergency calls less seriously, for which the Lefty pranksters will never be held responsible.

9 posted on 05/29/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TexasNative2000

The left is truly desperate. We can look for it to get a lot worse. If it was not so dangerous it would be comical.


10 posted on 05/29/2012 8:33:15 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: thethirddegree

They can ‘spoof’ the number.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing


11 posted on 05/29/2012 8:34:41 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: TexasNative2000

Anyone can spoof a phone number so you can call someone and have a phony caller ID listed. I don’t know if 911 has a way to determine if it’s a spoofed call.

http://www.spoofcard.com


12 posted on 05/29/2012 8:36:31 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: thethirddegree
I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.

For $15, you can get an anonymous cell phone at the local Walmart and assign any name or area code you like.
13 posted on 05/29/2012 8:36:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: TexasNative2000
Back in 2007, an eerily similar case was reported in which the individual initiating the SWATting could have spent up to 18 years in prison.

http://tinyurl.com/7togg5l

In that case, Randal Ellis was actually sentenced to three years in prison for phoning in a false 911 call that led authorities to swarm a Lake Forest house and handcuff innocent homeowners.

Pleading guilty to felonies including false imprisonment by violence and falsely reporting a crime, he also was ordered to pay $14,765 in restitution. Ellis was arrested after hacking into a telephone network and impersonating a caller from a Lake Forest home, saying that he had murdered someone in the house and was threatening to shoot others.

The Sheriff's Department dispatched a SWAT team and surrounded the home with dozens of officers, dogs and a helicopter. As the children of Stacey Cerwin-Bates and Doug Bates slept, Doug Bates thought he heard a prowler outside and grabbed a kitchen knife. When he entered the backyard, deputies armed with assault rifles confronted Bates and handcuffed him and then his wife until officers were able to determine that the report was fake.

Authorities spent more than six months tracking down Ellis. -via Christine Hanley LATimes March 27, 2008


14 posted on 05/29/2012 8:39:51 AM PDT by wtd
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To: thethirddegree

—I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.—

Heck, back in the early 90’s we left two of out daughters home alone for a couple of hours (the oldest was 10) and one called 911 as a prank and hung up. The cops showed up and the two girls, thank GOD, had the presence of mind to hide in one of the rooms until the cops left. We saw the footprints in the snow.

I can’t remember the exact age of the girls, but there was a risk that we may have gotten “in trouble” for leaving them unattended.

We have not had a land line since 2003. They would have to subpoena cell company records now just to attempt a cell tower triangulation to get our location. Since there is only one tower near us, that might be a challenge.


15 posted on 05/29/2012 8:43:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: thethirddegree

“My stepson works as a 911 calltaker in Florida. I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.”

It’s painfully easy to spoof caller ID and text message origins.

High school kids do it to pretend to have girlfriends break up with boyfriends, etc.


16 posted on 05/29/2012 8:44:59 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: TexasNative2000

“The caller’s number does appear”

I believe Erik stated that the commies managed to spoof his phone line.

Somebody in the Obambi administration probably had a hand in this. It won’t be long before bloggers start having mysterious heart attacks while walking their dogs at night.


17 posted on 05/29/2012 8:48:27 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: wtd

I wonder how they caught him...

Usually someone doing stuff like that just can’t keep their mouth shut and it is their ultimate undoing.


18 posted on 05/29/2012 8:49:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: thethirddegree

the SWAT terrorists are hijacking a phone number associated with the victims, to make the call look more authentic

This is not a mere prank call. It is a criminal act intended to cause possible injury or death to the victim and his family in the confusion of being stormed unexpectedly by armed police who are expecting to confront violent criminals

Fortunately Erickson was aware of this tactic being used, and supposedly had discussed it with his local police

That is why the guy(s) heading this up (and funded by TIDES foundation/Soros) have done time in prison for domestic terrorism- they are pros


19 posted on 05/29/2012 8:50:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: wtd

win/win for leftards:
police go on needless calls cost more $ to roll SWAT = more request for more taxpayer $ to grow The State.

more lawsuits stemming from this means more payouts to the victims= more request for more taxpayer $ to grow The State to cover city budget shortfalls due to lawsuits...


20 posted on 05/29/2012 8:56:35 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: thethirddegree
It was my understanding (at least in the Frey case) that they're tapping into the outside phone line to make the call appear to come from the residence!
21 posted on 05/29/2012 8:57:01 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: silverleaf
Another Breitbart post that addresses the legal issues involved.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/27/former-doj-attorney-eric-holder-could-stop-swatings-in-48-hours

22 posted on 05/29/2012 9:00:27 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: TexasNative2000

NONE DARE CALL IT FASCISM....


23 posted on 05/29/2012 9:04:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: thethirddegree

Its fairly easy to spoof the caller ID


24 posted on 05/29/2012 9:05:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cuban leaf

Cops don’t need a warrant to get your cell phone information. They do it ALL the time without one.

Unless you have a 10 yr old cell phone then there is a little chip in it which will tell the cops where the phone is.


25 posted on 05/29/2012 9:10:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thethirddegree
My stepson works as a 911 calltaker in Florida. I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.

Burner prepaid cellphone bought with cash.

26 posted on 05/29/2012 9:11:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: grumpygresh

E-911 doesn’t work like that, they don’t use the caller-id system, they use the billing info system. Somebody is about to have a bad day because this type stuff is a felony in most states.


27 posted on 05/29/2012 9:11:33 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: thethirddegree
My stepson works as a 911 calltaker in Florida. I thought that when a call comes in, the caller’s phone number appears on the calltaker’s screen.

It does. The problem is, anyone with a fair amount of technical knowledge can spoof not only the caller ID, but also the originating number. I'm not the sharpest tool in shed, but I know how to do it, and it sure isn't difficult especially if spoofing a cell phone (SIM cards are easy to clone).

28 posted on 05/29/2012 9:18:42 AM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: driftdiver

—Cops don’t need a warrant to get your cell phone information. They do it ALL the time without one.—

Not legally.


29 posted on 05/29/2012 9:35:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: thethirddegree
The problem is you can go to Wal-Mart and pay cash for a pay by the minute phone. The number still shows up but it is not traceable.
30 posted on 05/29/2012 9:40:24 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: cuban leaf

I don’t think all that many of them care, as long as they get it.


31 posted on 05/29/2012 9:46:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TexasNative2000
Has CNN covered this yet?

... I thought not...

32 posted on 05/29/2012 9:50:53 AM PDT by nutmeg (So... Clinton was our first black president, and Obama is our first gay president?)
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To: TexasNative2000

I was unaware tha you can call 911 and block the phone number. That doesn’t sound right.


33 posted on 05/29/2012 9:54:19 AM PDT by healy61
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To: TexasNative2000

I was unaware tha you can call 911 and block the phone number. That doesn’t sound right.


34 posted on 05/29/2012 9:54:38 AM PDT by healy61
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To: tcrlaf
NONE DARE CALL IT FASCISM....

you can try Stalinism....they seem to gravitate more toward the radical Marxists and though they will never admit being a Stalinist(or Maoist), they won't complain much but when you see that twinkle in their eye and the knowing glance, you know you have hit the target....

35 posted on 05/29/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: TexasNative2000

Sounds like occupier hijinks.


36 posted on 05/29/2012 10:04:33 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: TexasNative2000

The obvious solution is to take the SWAT teams off of the Spring Loaded “ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!!! - IF IT MOVES, SHOOT IT!” position.

If you look at all the hoops the military has to jump through, DURING A WAR, before launching an attack and compare that with the bozo SWAT teams who continually get the wrong house, kill the family dog, respond to false calls, etc. you wonder if we are headed to a ‘Police State” or a “Keystone Kops Kountry”?


37 posted on 05/29/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: DTogo

Sigh. I’ve had to make two 911 calls in the last year or so and it’s already a long ordeal while they get your name, address, phone number, number of people in the home, type of problem, who you voted for in the last election, race, creed, color, stool sample. It’s already gotten too cumbersome and now this is going to make it worse. I think where I am they actually make you hang up and then they call you back.


38 posted on 05/29/2012 10:10:18 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: TexasNative2000

Did he piss off this man?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/readymeet-soros-funded-domestic-terrorist-brett-kimberlin-whose-job-is-terrorizing-bloggers-into-silence/


39 posted on 05/29/2012 10:10:18 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: TexasNative2000
Leftists are disgusting, low life,pond scum. They have no morals and the only thing they thrive on is hate. They are brain dead little communist trolls who don't have one clue how communism really works. Well it doesn't but they are too dumb to realize it.
40 posted on 05/29/2012 10:48:15 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: BwanaNdege

Our house was raided by mistake by the King County SWAT Team. Fortunately, I was not home since they were looking for a man. They pointed loaded guns at my wife and our dogs. No one was hurt, but my wife was pretty shaken up and they made a mess out of the house. I never could get a straight answer out of them as to what had really happened.


41 posted on 05/29/2012 10:49:54 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Has Drudge linked to any of this story, yet???


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One that won’t make me sick
One that won’t make me crash my car
Or make me feel three feet thick

I want a new drudge
One that won’t hurt my head
One that won’t make my mouth too dry
Or make my eyes too red

One that won’t make me nervous
Wonderin’ what to do
One that makes me feel like I felt Way back in two thousand and two. Way back in 2002!

I want a new drudge
One thats doesn’t need a bib
One that don’t smell like a Rino
Or act like a lib


42 posted on 05/29/2012 11:00:37 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: DTogo

CLID can be spoofed.


43 posted on 05/29/2012 11:03:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: thethirddegree

In these swatting attacks the phone number is spoofed to look like the other person’s number.


44 posted on 05/29/2012 11:24:06 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: TexasNative2000

As I understand it, calls made to 911 will not have the phone number blocked even if the phone number is set up for blocking. I live in California, and when the 911 caller ID system was activated, we were advised that calls to 911 will always show the phone number as well as the home address attached to that phone number.

Maybe someone doing this has a “throw-away” cell phone. Just the same, the phone number should show on the 911 screen but I presume that no address would show. So, in cases where the 911 operator has to ask for the address, the operator should be suspicious, especially if the caller is reporting a shooting. In other words, the responding police should be operating under the suspicion that the call may be bogus.


45 posted on 05/29/2012 11:54:31 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: fireman15

I am so sorry that happened to your wife.

But I don’t consider the raid a “mistake”.

A “mistake” is bumping a glass of tea off the counter with your elbow.

Forcing yourself into someone’s house is not a “mistake” but an act of willful intent.

The purpose of such raids is to condition honest, law-abiding citizens into a state of fear.

If they really wanted to catch the man they were looking for, they would do honest police work and not kick down doors for the thrill of it.


46 posted on 05/29/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: TexasNative2000

Must be a coincidence that the people getting swatted were bloggers who wrote about Kimberlin.


47 posted on 05/29/2012 1:14:08 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: TexasNative2000
Sheriff's Deputy told me someone had called from my number

How does that happen? If someone can forge a SIM card they can do a lot of damage.

48 posted on 05/29/2012 1:25:33 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: TexasNative2000

I don’t think a call block will work when dialing into 911.


49 posted on 05/29/2012 2:52:20 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: ichabod1

They may jolly well know where you are from the time of picking up the phone, but they ask for all this other stuff so you don’t expect too much from them (OK, I’m being sardonic).

I’m not sure this would do much to stop Swatting, however. Those pranksters seem to contrive to fabricate reports of situations that nobody would ignore (hey, I’ve got the neighbor in my rifle sights and I’m about to shoot, stuff like that).

Another point of vulnerability is the network interface. For a land line that’s often on the side of the house, if it’s a private house. Plain Old Telephone Service lines are never encrypted, and a hollow star driver bit that can be had at any major hardware store will open the security door even if the owner padlocked it. The prankster does not even need to get up on a pole, and wires could be run invisibly across the lawn if the prankster wants to make the call after safely off the property.


50 posted on 05/29/2012 3:11:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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