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3 Years After Taxpayer Bailout, Bank of America Ships Jobs Overseas[Philippines]
Mother Jones ^ | 29 May 2012 | Josh Harkinson

Posted on 05/29/2012 12:26:02 PM PDT by Theoria

Your account information will now be accessible to call center workers in the Philippines.

Bank of America, which last fall announced plans to lay off 30,000 workers, is about to go on a hiring spree—overseas.

America's second-largest bank is relocating its business-support operations to the Philippines, according to a high-ranking Filipino government official recently quoted in the Filipino press. The move, which includes a portion of the bank's customer service unit, comes less than three years after Bank of America received a $45 billion federal bailout.

Roman Romulo, deputy majority leader of the Philippine House of Representatives, bragged to the Manila Standard Today earlier this month that the Philippines "has secured its place as the world's fastest-growing outsourcing hub." Romulo pointed out that BofA is the last of the "big four" US banks to move their business-support network to his island nation, where the average family makes $4,700 a year.

A spokesman for Bank of America, Mark Pipitone, was unable to provide additional information about the bank's offshoring plans on Friday. "We have employees and operations where we can ensure that we best serve our customers and clients," he told me in an email.

The bank's outsourcing comes amid rising concerns about the security of customers' financial data in the hands of foreign contractors. In March, undercover reporters for England's Sunday Times met in India with "IT consultants" who claimed they were call center workers and offered to sell them credit card and medical information for 500,000 Britons—including account holders at major banks such as HSBC.

To prevent similar scandals from rocking the Philippines, Romulo is pushing a law that would require Filipino companies to "protect the integrity and confidentiality of any personal information collected from their clients, in compliance with international privacy standards," according to the Filipino television network ABS/CBN News.

US banks already are operating call centers in the Philippines, "despite the fact that they haven't actually passed this rudimentary legislation," says Shane Larson, legislative director for the Communication Workers of America (CWA), which represents 150,000 American call center workers. The Indian government is ahead of the Philippines in passing data privacy laws, notes the union, but those laws specifically exempt the call center industry. And that could lead to problems: In a 2005 survey by PricewaterhouseCoopers, 85 percent of the Indian outsourcing companies that responded said they had experienced information security breaches in the previous year.

In a 2010 report on the offshoring of technical jobs, New York's Department of Labor concluded that data security in the medical and financial fields is "of critical concern" and that "other nations' legal systems (especially in developing countries such as India) require reform to match that of the US with respect to privacy and computer security."

Needless to say, the outsourcing is bad news for an already hurting US call center industry, which has shed some 500,000 jobs during the past four years—about 10 percent of the total. The CWA hopes to reverse this trend by pushing the US Call Center and Consumer Protection Act, a bill that would make any company that outsources call center jobs ineligible for federal loans and grants.

In recent years, local governments in the deindustrializing Midwest have tried to boost their economies by luring call centers with generous tax breaks and economic incentives. T-Mobile, for instance, accepted more than $61 million in state and local recruitment subsidies to locate call center jobs here. But it recently announced it would close seven American call centers, putting around 2,000 people out of work—even as it continues to operate centers in the Philippines and Honduras. (The CWA called the company out in a recent report titled "Why Shipping Call Center Jobs Overseas Hurts Us Back Home.")

In addition to the "frustrations" of dealing with customer-service workers halfway around the globe, "there is the bigger picture of how opaque the process is, and, as a result, some of the security questions that are raised," says Larson of the CWA. "I think Americans deserve to know to whom they are speaking and to where their information is going."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bank; bankofamerica; boa; economy; outsourcing; philippines
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1 posted on 05/29/2012 12:26:18 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

There is an old adage. “Whats good for business is good for America.”Its simply not true. Sure there are plenty of reasons why companies move offshore but that does not make the statement any less false. Whats good for business is good for business and will remain so until we get unions under control and the government less involved in private enterprise.


2 posted on 05/29/2012 12:32:39 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

I agree on the Gov’t, but we are experiencing record low union membership. Unions are dying.


3 posted on 05/29/2012 12:35:11 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

Bank America paid back their TARP they were forced to take- with interest

They are free to do business in the most economical way they can, to benefit their stockholders and customers

There may be fewer BoA bank clerks in the US but there will be more customer and stockholder wealth to spread into other opportunities

Capitalism is a grand thing - if we stop letting obamite liberals poison us to it


4 posted on 05/29/2012 12:37:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Theoria

I wander how many commies at MoJo buy American?


5 posted on 05/29/2012 12:40:12 PM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: Theoria

Instead of tax incentives for targeted enterprises, how about lower taxes on business (the U.S. currently is the highest in the world) and getting rid of the minimum wage. Boom. Jobs.


6 posted on 05/29/2012 12:40:12 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: silverleaf
'Capitalism is a grand thing'

Sure, we should have let them fail. We didn't.

7 posted on 05/29/2012 12:40:30 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria
I wonder how many commies at MoJo buy American?
8 posted on 05/29/2012 12:40:57 PM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: Theoria
... we are experiencing record low union membership. Unions are dying.

"In 2011, the union membership rate--the percent of wage and salary workers who were members of a union--was 11.8 percent, essentially unchanged from 11.9 percent in 2010, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.

The number of wage and salary workers belonging to unions, at 14.8 million, also showed little movement over the year.

In 1983, the first year for which comparable union data are available, the union membership rate was 20.1 percent and there were 17.7 million union workers.

UNION MEMBERS -- 2011

Currently there are ~154,000,000 in the civilian labor force.
9 posted on 05/29/2012 12:47:35 PM PDT by khelus
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To: Theoria

BoA was not failing (even though some of our present stalwart govt officials and their Goldman Sachs etc cronies were among the weasels who bamboozled Ken Lewis into taking on Merrill Lynch)

BoA was among the banks forced to take TARP money to disguise who was REALLY failing

Ken Lewis vowed to raise the funds to pay it back before he was forced out- and he did- despite obstacles the govt used to try and prevent TARP paybacks (obama can’ pwn a bank if if they didn’t owe the money)


10 posted on 05/29/2012 12:50:33 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Theoria

Yup. Under capitalism there is no TBTF.


11 posted on 05/29/2012 12:53:20 PM PDT by khelus
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To: Theoria

I will say A: not fast enough and B: too many times one reads an article where unions agree to cuts in labor force to save compensation package. They have helped kill themselves off. Make no mistake the union leaders don’t care how many workers they have only how many vote to keep them at the head of the union.


12 posted on 05/29/2012 12:55:23 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
Yep. Unions will be replaced with nationalism.

As the world economies continue to tank. The siren call of protectionism will echo through the crowds.

13 posted on 05/29/2012 12:58:17 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

nothing but Mother Jones predictably pushing Obama to take a populist run at the banks


14 posted on 05/29/2012 1:11:46 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Theoria

“The siren call of protectionism will echo through the crowds.”

The crowds will be thinner; many Americans aren’t breeding as our economy reaches European levels of instability.


15 posted on 05/29/2012 1:42:27 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: silverleaf

“where the average family makes $4,700 a year”

The customers and stockholders are increasingly foreigners as well; the American customers get threatened with $5 MAC card fees to further impoverish them.

Anyone who thought outsourcing to Third World countries would help the US in the long run is delusional. At least the call centers are closer to where B of A will actually have customers (Red China), while Americans are scrounging for wheat pennies and such to buy groceries.

We have built Asia while destroying ourselves.


16 posted on 05/29/2012 1:46:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: silverleaf

They are free to do business in the most economical way they can, to benefit their stockholders and customers

There may be fewer BoA bank clerks in the US but there will be more customer and stockholder wealth to spread into other opportunities

Capitalism is a grand thing - if we stop letting obamite liberals poison us to it


I agree with what you’ve said. But if the high paying jobs all leave the U.S. then there will not be the money here to buy these companies products. You could say that would be an example of poor long-range business planning.

In the end it leaves a much poorer world economy. You can’t bring everyone up to a high standard of living by knocking down the ones that already are there.


17 posted on 05/29/2012 5:38:05 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man
What makes you think the BoA jobs migrating to the PI are the high paying ones? Call centers? What a shame, Susie won't aspire to a career goal of working in a BoA call center. Maybe she'll have to consider another career choice.

Jobs overseas create wealth for America.

They create wealth that enables people overseas to buy American goods and services...that boosts the value of our companies and their stock.

Of course we have to compete globally with China, India, South Korea and the like.
So..?

Protectionism is a failed idea. Ask the former American steel workers.

Do you think many US investors and pension funds own stock in BoA? If this boosts BoA bottom line it boosts every owner and investor. If not, then they vote out the BoA management or pull their money and invest elsewhere.

18 posted on 05/30/2012 6:07:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: wiggen

To what union do BoA employees belong?


19 posted on 05/30/2012 6:12:48 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: silverleaf
So..?

American taxpayers are on the hook for providing a navy to protect those foreign assets. Shouldn't China or the Philippines float their own navies and fly their own airforces to protect BoA operations in Manilla?

Since Japan, China, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam and S. Korea are our friends, we don't need both the 5th and 7th fleets there anymore. We can send the 5th home and park the 7th in the Sea of Japan off the nork coast.

Come to think of it, exactly what are we "defending" in the M.E.? Is it private property. Are taxpayer dollars being used to defend private property on foreign soil? Shouldn't the free market mavens who enjoy the profits gained on foreign soil just let the local governments protect them?

The day I don't have to spend one nickel to protect a privately own ship at an overseas port from pirates you can talk about "protectionism" but right now the argument falls flat. Right now we're subsidizing foreign operations.

20 posted on 05/30/2012 6:37:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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