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Mitt Romney’s nomination marks milestone for Mormon faith
Washington Post ^ | May 30, 2012 | Sandhya Somashekhar and Jason Horowitz,

Posted on 05/30/2012 7:20:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

America quietly observed a major milestone in its history Tuesday when Mitt Romney became the first Mormon presidential nominee of a major political party.

-SNIP-

“If you look at it in a historical perspective, it’s absolutely incredible,” said Richard Lyman Bushman, a leading Mormon scholar and longtime acquaintance of Romney’s. “A century-and-a-half ago, Mormons were detested as a people as well as a religion. They were thought to be primitive and crude. And now to have someone overcome all the lingering prejudice, that’s a milestone.”

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If the silence serves a political purpose for Romney, it serves a pastoral one for the church. Mormonism is one of the world’s fastest-growing religions, with as many adherents in the United States as Judaism. Still, about one in three Americans say they have an unfavorable view of the Mormon church, according to a March Bloomberg News poll.

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A century ago the notion of a Mormon occupying the presidency was inconceivable.

“This is in a way a natural development in the history of Mormonism,” said Jon Meacham, a journalist who has written extensively on politics and religion. “Joseph Smith and the founders of the church clearly saw America as the new Jerusalem, and therefore for an adherent of the faith to have such a central role in the life of a nation would have been something they dreamed of.”

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WaPo does a victory lap for their success in the nomination of a weak candidate to run against Obama. Look for more media articles reminding voters of the candidate's "unusual" faith..while ignoring the Rev. Wright.

Look also for more pressure on FR from MittBots on those of us who refuse to swallow the kool-aid while they ignore the article claim that Still, about one in three Americans say they have an unfavorable view of the Mormon church, according to a March Bloomberg News poll.

1 posted on 05/30/2012 7:20:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 05/30/2012 7:25:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The inability or unwillingness to reality test beliefs is okay for my plumber but not for POTUS.)
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To: greyfoxx39

“America quietly observed a major milestone in its history Tuesday when Mitt Romney became the first Mormon presidential nominee of a major political party.”

HUH? Did I miss the convention? Are they counting delegates for Romney who are actually voting for Ron Paul?


3 posted on 05/30/2012 7:25:31 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: greyfoxx39
I have to admit that I would have a more favorable view of Mormons if I had seen any at all while I was serving in Vietnam. There was a notable lack of the fringe sects among us..

I note that the Mittster had better things to do while I and many others were taking the brunt of the fight.and his many sons have never worn a uniform.

Must have a different definition of patriotism than the rest of us.

4 posted on 05/30/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: greyfoxx39
A century ago the notion of a Mormon occupying the presidency was inconceivable.

From the same article, it apparently still is for one in three voters. This is going to hit ORomney hard in November.

5 posted on 05/30/2012 7:29:28 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: greyfoxx39

The Mormon Hairy Reed already controls the Senate.


6 posted on 05/30/2012 7:34:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: greyfoxx39

America quietly observed a major milestone in its history Tuesday when Mitt Romney became the first Mormon presidential nominee of a major political party.
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DUH

Maybe nobody said anything because Willard aint the nominee YET ???


7 posted on 05/30/2012 7:34:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: greyfoxx39

I think Donnie and Marie did more for the image of Mormans than did Willard.


8 posted on 05/30/2012 7:35:17 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: faucetman

Romney only needs 30 more delegates legally bound to him to clinch on the first round of voting, no matter what shenanigans the Paulistinians believe they can achieve. With Utah outstanding, that will happen.


9 posted on 05/30/2012 7:36:49 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Chainmail

Don’t you remember? Willard said that his sons serve their country by working on his campaigns.


10 posted on 05/30/2012 7:39:42 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: greyfoxx39

A century ago the notion of a Mormon occupying the presidency was inconceivable.
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Oh I dunno...

not by the Mormons...

When Joey Smith got himself crowned “king of the world” and then ran for POTUS in 1884 he thought he was going to be the first Mormon presient foir life and there was no doubt amongst his followers...

They thought he was entitled...

He sent them out to knock on doors all over the country and campaign for him...

but unfortunately, he got himself killed in a shootout in June of that year...

The first Mormon presidential nominee of a major political party to get himself killed...


11 posted on 05/30/2012 7:41:20 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: greyfoxx39
Willard is in a cult. The media WILL make movies, and tell of all the bizarre beliefs of their faith; but we knew that BEFORE the primary started. Romney bought the nomination square and fair, with the help of rove, coulter, drudge, fox, and many cheaters and compromisers. So all you sheep out here should just get in line and vote your conscience—no not your conscience, vote as you are told or you will be voting for obama. . After all he is better than obama. Obama is pro-abortion-—so is romney. Obama is anti-gun—so is romney. Obama is for socialized medicine-—so is romney. Obama is for gay marriage-—romney set up gay marriage in MA & NOW says gays should be able to adopt same as straight couples. (Imagine those poor kids in a few years) I know, romney can talk about money and obama can't. So it comes down to this; it's all about the money. To hell with what is right and what is wrong. We have to help one evil beat the other evil. After al.l our forefathers would be proud that we had enough courage to give in and give up and not fight both evils. If romney wins he will get 8 years and who knows how the winds will blow.

It's weird, because romney refused to attend one social conservative event and keeps saying social conservatives will vote for him. I don't think the clairvoyants in his church are very good. Romney read my mind (*%$#)

12 posted on 05/30/2012 7:42:42 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Magic underwear... becoming a god... going to planet kobol... living on another planet with spirit wives and children... smith being the only true way to the Father... what could they possibly find about mitt's religion that would be controversial? /S

LLS

13 posted on 05/30/2012 7:43:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: greyfoxx39

Pressure, oh heck no.
Irrationality will be more like it.
There are those who easily surrender conservative principles to vote for not BHO.
I have held my nose and voted for my last liberal four years ago, I will not ever again.
It has been the capitulation of conservatives to accept liberals in the GOP that has brought us to this point: liberal R or liberal D.


14 posted on 05/30/2012 7:53:28 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39

My guess is that about 2/3 would rather have a Mormon that a Moslem and as for me I don’t care if you worship doorknobs if you’re a good citizen which most Mormons seem to be.


15 posted on 05/30/2012 7:55:54 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: faucetman
HUH? Did I miss the convention? Are they counting delegates for Romney who are actually voting for Ron Paul?

Shoot, that's nothing...the MittBots will now begin labeling him "President Romney" on FR.

16 posted on 05/30/2012 7:59:13 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The inability or unwillingness to reality test beliefs is okay for my plumber but not for POTUS.)
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To: Chainmail
Must have a different definition of patriotism than the rest of us.

I've served with several Mormons in the Navy, both officers and enlisted.

17 posted on 05/30/2012 8:01:31 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ask Obama how many wives his Daddy had.

The Rev Wright interview shows positively that Obama was a life-long Muslim until he met Wright in the ‘90s who “taughet” O about Christianity and assured him he could become a member of the Black Liberaiton Church without offending his Muslim faith or Muslim friends and family.


18 posted on 05/30/2012 8:02:15 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: greyfoxx39

Washington Post again, Don’t remember anything from them on Black Liberation Theology. Hmmm


19 posted on 05/30/2012 8:03:08 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ask Obama how many wives his Daddy had.

The Rev Wright interview shows positively that Obama was a life-long Muslim until he met Wright in the ‘90s who “taugh” O about Christianity and assured him he could become a member of the Black Liberaiton Church without offending his Muslim faith or Muslim friends and family.


20 posted on 05/30/2012 8:03:27 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: greyfoxx39; All
From the article: “Joseph Smith and the founders of the church clearly saw America as the new Jerusalem...

Based upon Joseph Smith's extremely poor prophetic track record, I think this means America is in for divine judgment.

21 posted on 05/30/2012 8:05:14 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god f rom Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Id say it was more of a milestone for socialists.

They are going to have a candidate in both major parties this year, if the GOP doesn’t get rid of him during the convention.


22 posted on 05/30/2012 8:07:14 AM PDT by myself6
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To: greyfoxx39
Unfavorable view of the Mormon....... That's because it is a cult. Look into it.

Cults, Movements, World Religions
Sects and Satanic Cults

23 posted on 05/30/2012 8:07:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ingtar
A centuryTen years ago the notion of a Mormon Muslim occupying the presidency was inconceivable.

There. Fixed it.
24 posted on 05/30/2012 8:08:01 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Chainmail

I am sure Romney thinks he served his country gallivanting around Europe (mostly France) for two years, while you were in Nam.
I mean he has said that his sons have served this country by campaigning for him.
The Romney family has a skewed view of service to country.
Thank you for your service.


25 posted on 05/30/2012 8:20:16 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: shalom aleichem; greyfoxx39
Ask Obama how many wives his Daddy had.

Ask Romney how many wives his great/GG grandpas had.

Ask Romney how many wives his Mormon leaders in Kolob post-death will have.

26 posted on 05/30/2012 8:24:01 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god f rom Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: bkepley; greyfoxx39; All
My guess is that about 2/3 would rather have a Mormon that a Moslem and as for me I don’t care if you worship doorknobs if you’re a good citizen...

The problem in a nutshell in our country: People embracing or endorsing idolatry openly...any ole' object of worship is "a-ok"

(Perhaps you didn't notice that the first entity this site is devoted to is "God")

27 posted on 05/30/2012 8:27:48 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god f rom Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: greyfoxx39

So last election was about electing a mulatto, this election is going to be about electing a mormon, next election...

So I guess this just helps to affirm that PC/diversity is winning in America. We now select and elect candidates based on “identity politics”.

Sick.


28 posted on 05/30/2012 8:29:18 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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So last election was about electing a mulatto, this election is going to be about electing a mormon, next election...


Sadlly, their are many Wicca’s in the military. At least they served their country.


29 posted on 05/30/2012 8:33:13 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Chainmail
I have to admit that I would have a more favorable view of Mormons if I had seen any at all while I was serving in Vietnam

That's odd...I didn't see you either..I guess we never crossed paths,in 1966-67,1969-70,and 1973-4.You could have found a bunch of us at Sacrament meetings aboard most any Naval vessel and at DaNang...at least I could find them.

30 posted on 05/30/2012 8:36:56 AM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ahh, the “first Morman” spin to get the WASP vote.


31 posted on 05/30/2012 9:26:45 AM PDT by bgill
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To: greyfoxx39
A century-and-a-half ago, Mormons were detested as a people as well as a religion.
I'm guessing the writer doesn't have an FR login.
32 posted on 05/30/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888480/posts?page=2#2)
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To: greyfoxx39
Mitt Romney’s nomination marks milestone for Mormon faith...

...as Obama's presidency marks milestone for Muslim faith.

33 posted on 05/30/2012 9:29:21 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: greyfoxx39
Mitt Romney’s nomination marks milestone for Mormon faith

When Obama gets done with him; that 'milestone' will have turned into a 'millstone'!!

34 posted on 05/30/2012 9:57:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
Mitt Romney’s nomination marks milestone for Mormon faith

When Obama gets done with him; that 'milestone' will have turned into a 'millstone'!!




35 posted on 05/30/2012 9:58:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: bkepley
My guess is that about 2/3 would rather have a Mormon that a Moslem ...

You think that 2/3's of us are RELIGIOUS BIGOTS against ISLAM??

36 posted on 05/30/2012 10:00:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: bkepley
...as for me I don’t care if you worship doorknobs...

I judge, from this statement; that you are NOT a Christian.

37 posted on 05/30/2012 10:02:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You think that 2/3's of us are RELIGIOUS BIGOTS against ISLAM??

You're right. I should have said 3/3. My guess is that roughly 3/3 would rather have a Mormon than a Muslim president and they'd all rather not be ruled over by religious blockheads of any flavor. Thank God for the founding fathers.

38 posted on 05/30/2012 10:08:38 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Elsie
I judge ....

Judge not, that ye be not judged. ... Matthew 7:1

For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. ... Matthew 7:2


39 posted on 05/30/2012 10:18:26 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Chainmail

During the Vietnam war the Mormon church was requesting excessive deferments for their young men. They met with the government and finally agreed to limit the deferments each ward could request for young men to go on missions. It was understood that after finishing their mission the young men would be eligible to serve. Romney got his first deferment to attend college, when he quit school he requested a 2nd to go on a mission. When he returned he request a 3rd to again attend college. He insults the military when he claims his sons serve their country by campaigning for him.


40 posted on 05/30/2012 10:25:29 AM PDT by brightright
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To: oldsalt
"That's odd...I didn't see you either..I guess we never crossed paths,in 1966-67,1969-70,and 1973-4.You could have found a bunch of us at Sacrament meetings aboard most any Naval vessel and at DaNang...at least I could find them."

First of all, I thank you for your service - and I am happy to hear that there were Mormons, you among them, who were serving in Vietnam. In 1966-67 I was with an artillery battery first, then with an infantry battalion further inland and didn't meet any Mormons. Might have been that I wasn't acquainted with everybody and may have missed them, I don't know. We had a bunch of Protestants, a bunch of Catholics, one New York Jew among us and even one guy that claimed to be Buddhist but no Mormons (or 7th Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.). I did have several Mormon friends in High School but none of them served in Vietnam. All of them went out on missions for their church but missed out on my war.

It is probably overly general of me to have made that connection but with a very prominent Mormon potentially heading for our highest office it is telling that he left us to it on our own.

41 posted on 05/30/2012 10:25:53 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail
My pop....was in the USMC. He recalled to me once...about talking to another Marine, who happened to be a mormon..while crossing the Pacific during WWII in a ship headed for some island.

Don't know why the conversation came up...it was many, many years ago.

42 posted on 05/30/2012 10:35:26 AM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: brightright
I am probably wrong to be so sensitive after all of these years but it still means a whole lot to me whether someone of my generation served during our war or not. And, no, I will never believe that going on a religious mission or going to college is equivalent service when there is fighting and dying going on for our country. To this day, the guys who served with me are the men I will always respect and the guys that stayed back - well, I don't need them for anything.

It probably doesn't help that I spent part of the morning re-watching A Face of War, the Vietnam documentary on YouTube. It is a good view of who we were and what we did and it reminds me of who we really are, not what the Left would have us believe we are.

43 posted on 05/30/2012 10:41:09 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Osage Orange

Now if that was Mitt’s Dad on his way to Iwo, I would be very impressed but I suspect it wasn’t.. Nonetheless, I am proud of your Dad and his Mormon fellow Marine and if they are still with us, please pass my warmest salute and Semper Fidelis to them.


44 posted on 05/30/2012 10:50:10 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: oldsalt; Chainmail
Utah is close to the bottom in enlistments.

No man in Romney's direct line has ever served our nation in uniform since the family arrived here to serve Joseph Smith 170 years ago, never, peace time/war time, drafted or volunteer.

Mitt was hiding out in France while his father (made money in WWII) campaigned as the GOP anti-war candidate, attacking the military for "brainwashing" him in the past.

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45 posted on 05/30/2012 11:19:31 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Osage Orange; Chainmail

The massive draft and service of WWII created a level of unusual diversity.

The Marines, Navy, and Coast Guard drafted 1,730,000, 93% of the Army of WWII was draftees.


46 posted on 05/30/2012 11:31:08 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

One great presidential selection process we have, isn’t it?


47 posted on 05/30/2012 12:09:13 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: LibLieSlayer
Magic underwear... becoming a god... going to planet kobol... living on another planet with spirit wives and children... smith being the only true way to the Father... what could they possibly find about mitt's religion that would be controversial? /S

I know Mormons, I like Mormons, Mormons I've known are good people. With that said, anyone who can read through their book and believe it, is the very definition of gullible. Sorry to say it.
48 posted on 05/30/2012 12:14:23 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Judge NOT???
 
Sigh............
 

 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.  (John 7:24).


49 posted on 05/30/2012 2:13:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ZX12R
I know Mormons, I like Mormons, Mormons I've known are good people.

"I like trees..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHaMqHh5NZ4

50 posted on 05/30/2012 2:15:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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