Skip to comments.Team Romney: Not gonna play repudiation game (Finally!)
Posted on 05/30/2012 3:58:19 PM PDT by Sneakyuser
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Best not to get overly optimistic about Mitt's testosterone levels.
We are military history buffs; we have a pretty good arsenal of mostly vintage weapons. We like to shoot and we both have current CCW permits. The problem is that even armed if the bad guy sneaks up on you unexpectedly you still have a life or death struggle on your hands and there is a pretty good chance that they will come out on top.
I'm no Romney fan, but you are nuts if you think Newt is fearless and has anything to teach anyone about backbone:
Newt didn’t just reach across the aisle with the Democrats. He walked across the aisle and sat on the couch with them!
LOL...I like Newt’s ideas but was totally put off with his whiney, crybaby, “everyone’s picking on me” campaign.
Talk to me, Ch.
Out of office, Newt, hustled his few think tanks in DC for funding, and among his contacts were some Democrats, the infamous Nancy Pelosi being one. Blew my mind, too. I didn’t like it either.
BUT, in office Newt Gingrich was hell on wheels and you surely know that as Speaker of the House, he was the intrument by which we took the House for the first time, after 40 years in the desert, when Democrats owned all three houses.
Come on man.
Since Newt crawled through glass for the Republican Party, there has been nothing accomplished that even begins to compare with what Newt delivered to us, under fire every step of the way. Newt’s historic success and the genius behind his “Contract with America” flushed out Republicans and actually had them doing there job back then, because he was a workaholic.
He left and they have been pudding ever since. He balanced the budget pulling the House purse strings and PO’d many Republican players getting that done.
They despise him because they couldn’t match him then, and they can’t match him now.
Nevermind his retirement years and marketing faux pauxs, in office this guy rocks.
Same here. Newt wasn’t all bad, made some great soundbites during the primaries, but he would have been a disaster as our nominee, especially with the Independent woman vote. I know many of our fellow Freepers worship the guy but lets face it, there are not enough male caucasians out there to elect him president. He would never have gotten much above 40% of the total vote.
Newtie is largely a self serving politician. He debates well though.
“Newtie is largely a self serving politician.” <<<
You betcha. And I liked, every. single. thing. Newtie served up and just how he served it. It benefited him and it benefited our party by historic proportion.
Always liked, (past tense) Newt...have followed him for a couple of decades but he was a pathetic campaigner. Totally lost me when he went after Romney and Bain Capital...stupid move.
Then his constant whining during the campaign was pathetic...”FOX is being mean to me”. He ran a terrible campaign and deserved to lose; plus, there is no way he would have beat Obozo. And don’t give me the “he would have beat Obozo in debate”; very few elections have been decided by debates.
Sorry, Newt is just where he should be...right where he put himself.
Just mailed in my CA absentee ballot. Newt's on it so I voted for him. He's still and always will be my #1.
Hey, b9! Congrats on your ballot. Newt is ready to get back into politics I expect, which explains why he’s joined the Romney team. I’m wondering what will come out of this for Newt. He is a party man to the core and can’t seem to cut ties, but what’s a guy to do at his age and in solid two party system.
I sure wanted to see him wreck the GOPE strangle hold on the party. Not gonna happen with Romney. And, I think I have learned once and for all that if you don’t have a campaign machine mounted years in advance of announcing a run for the nomination you’re in it only for the political exposure.
Our conservative candidates had nothing but their name to run on. Romney had all of the DC machine behind him and more than enough cash to buy the thing, with personal wealth to boot.
This makes me reconsider Palin. She wouldn’t put in the intellectual work required to run in ‘12 on her name, so she seems to be working the DC game now, like Romney did.
Supporting Hatch, even against a Utah Tea Party preference to boot him who want to get a conservative in there. She is gathering chits early inside the Beltway. Maybe she will run in ‘16 after all. She has Texas (Rick Perry) and she has Newt, who is headed for something bigger than retirement.
I'm advocating pre-emptive resistance. Whichever statist wins will be more vulnerable to resistance, weakened, and easier to fight, if he wins by a plurality and the majority of voters voted against him. Voting official, on-the-ballot third party (that way I don't run the risk of invalidating the entire ballot) is the best way I can think of to use my vote in the Presidential to RESIST: do what I can to send him into office as weak and politically vulnerable as possible.
And regardless of the hysteria regarding Obama, if he is re-elected by a plurality where well over 50% voted against him -- I'm praying for 60% or more to vote AGAINST both candidates -- he'll be politically vulnerable and the forces of conservatism, no matter which of the clowns wins, IF that clown wins on a slim plurality, the forces of conservatism will be stronger because the vote and the math prove that big government liberalism is a losing proposition.
What is most frustrating now, though, is that right now it's ALL and ONLY about Obama. If Romney wins, six months into 2013 Obama would be totally forgotten, and conservatives would find themselves responsible for having ELECTED as the key Republican "leader," a guy who would then tell them to sit down and shut up, and he'd have a huge, organized, well-funded force behind him that are ruthless and even devious in how they operate.
That Obama is gone would mean zero when we see the Republican president and Congress being BIPARTISAN in enacting government-run health care with on-demand abortion, the whole cap-and-trade eco-tyranny agenda, and pushing laws to punish people who peacefully resist open homosexuality in their everyday lives. And as icing, conservatives, with Obama totally forgotten, would squirm helplessly and shreik in impotent rage as their Republican president proceeded to nominate liberal activist judges and Republicans in Congress, going up against a guy who plays true political hardball, remaining strangely silent.
Yes, RESIST. And I think part of that is recognizing that Republicans need to stop obsessing on what they're voting against, and realize that in 2013, the ONLY thing that will matter will be what they voted for. That's why I'm voting FOR resistance against either one, using my vote in the one small way it can make him enter office as weak and embattled as possible.
I'm sorry, but whoopti-frickin'-doo. Just because a guy can run a business doesn't mean he's a conservative, principled, free market, or even fiscally conservative. What it means is that he knows how to use control over employees and production to achieve goals within market transactions. That is ALL it means. Deifying businessmen is as misgided as deifying lawyers.
And come on, "Mitt does not have a conservative record."
No, Mitt has steadily and solidly advanced five -- count 'em, five of the key agendas of liberalism. Not just one or two, but FIVE. He has a record of actively promoting and furthering them. No gray area here.
Now, Republicans can vote for that if they want, but that's NUTS.
Do they really think Obama is made of some magic stuff? He's a scarecrow, for crying out loud.
You're right -- how do you think he managed to, after the second time around (part 2 of the 2008 primary), get the nomination in a party where, truth be told, he has no business judging by his actual record?
Very very competitive and aggressive. He plays hardball -- witness the $$$$ attack ad campaing on Newt, and the primaries where some kind of deadline was missed and Romney and I think Paul (I've forgotten) were the only official guys on that state's primary ballot. That's hardball, like a good businessman with a good organization behind him.
If Romney wins, that is what conservatives in the Republican party would be going up against, that kind of aggessiveness and competitiveness.
Come summer of 2013, it won't matter what you voted against, only what you voted FOR.
Amen. Thank you, Rita. And he didn't get solidly BEHIND and PROMOTE five main liberal agenda issues, like one keystone Republican I can think of. They sneer at Gingrich (hey, I've done my share of it), but would they call me a "purist" for rejecting Mitt?
Gingrich clearly understood and articulated the principals of limited government that I as a conservative know will go a long way to helping steer this nation toward freedom, independence, and prosperity.
Now please tell me, are YOU suggesting that Mitt Romney, whose RECORD is very solidly established as advancing not one, not two, but FIVE of the primary things I've been voting Republican to oppose -- you're telling me that as desperately as people want Obama gone, they are so desperate they're willing to vote FOR their most powerful representative to BE a big government statist, under the Republican banner -- but that these same people would have certainly *harrrumph harrrumph* rejected Gingrich? So it's better we got Romney?
That's a depressing way to see your compatriots.
BUT, in office Newt Gingrich was hell on wheels and you surely know that as Speaker of the House, he was the intrument by which we took the House for the first time, after 40 years in the desert, when Democrats owned all three houses. Come on man.
And then they call folks "purists" for stiffing Romney. Romney is bad news for everybody.
“...the primaries where some kind of deadline was missed and Romney and I think Paul (I’ve forgotten) were the only official guys on that state’s primary ballot.”
I think that was Virginia.
I understand your frustration... but your plan is not “using your vote” it is wasting your vote. I am not happy how this has worked out either but throwing a tantrum and wasting my vote isn't going to make it any better.
As an adult we sometimes have to make difficult decisions and compromises. This time around we can either vote for a Marxist who hates this country and all it stands for and has already done irreparable damage or we can vote for someone who has a more liberal voting record than we would like but who still appears to believe in the American dream. No one else currently has a chance. Wasting your vote isn't going to make either of them any “weaker” or do anything other than make it more likely that Obama will get four more years.
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